Heavy_Handz
Superstar
“We form like Voltron & GZA is the head.”People really don't know what charisma means.
Charisma (/kəˈrɪzmə/) is a personal quality of presence or charm that compels its subjects.
Can Somebody Explain why GZA Liquid Swords is considered a classic :lupe
- Thread starter The Intergalactic Koala
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Charisma (/kəˈrɪzmə/) is a personal quality of presence or charm that compels its subjects.
The fact this thread still poppin is 
Liquid Swords is as classic as it gets. You had one of the greatest lyricists ever running a lyrical clinic over one of the greatest producers best beats ever with classic verses from other Wu members thrown in. LS is a certified classic...no debate.
Liquid Swords is as classic as it gets. You had one of the greatest lyricists ever running a lyrical clinic over one of the greatest producers best beats ever with classic verses from other Wu members thrown in. LS is a certified classic...no debate.
Dudes in here just making up shyt. Like @The Amerikkkan Idol and @O.Red.
I've been saying since the inception of this board that someone can post the most absurd shyt and there's gonna be posters that's gonna agree with it just because or just to troll. This thread is the perfect example. I've never heard anybody not consider Liquid Swords a certified Hip Hop classic. It's routinely mentioned as one of the greatest albums this culture produced.
Not once have I disputed Liquid Swordz standing as a classic. Not once have I disputed GZA's skill as a rapper
But nikkas don't read to understand they read to be mad
Exactly this. GZA is the model of precision and economy. Like a boxer who don't do nothing flashy or throw a ton of punches, but after 10 round the opponent is a bloody mess and their corner throw in the towel. Not everyone gonna appreciate that approach to the craft but if you do, it's a thing of beauty
Which one of y'all is spreading this filth to the outside world 
Which one of y'all is spreading this filth to the outside world
we need to quarantine this site until we can deal with this in-house
Bugzbunny129
All Star
Dudes talking abour “charisma”
And at the same time bringing up deck over gza
Yall would suck a dikk if dude had “swag”
If gza dont got chrasima neither does any rapper from the 88 class. From rakim to kane.
And at the same time bringing up deck over gza
Yall would suck a dikk if dude had “swag”
If gza dont got chrasima neither does any rapper from the 88 class. From rakim to kane.
GZA at one point did have a lot of charisma....IDK when it switched...maybe after Forever? But I can't get into his later stuff like that cause the energy just isn't there. Its a shame cause his pen got better....but the charisma did dial back 
Exactly. If anything, its a good album but I remember a den of "real hip hop" cacs straight up shytted on me because I did not get on my knees and pray to the fukking album. I mean, I get it...it's lyrical but its a prime example of "lyrical spiritual" nonsense that becomes boring and dated
That's probably the worst thing I've heard to describe this, and I don't think people who use that term really understand what it means. "Lyrical spiritual/miracle" is supposed to describe MFs who just string rhyming words together that actually just sound like word salad. GZA's lyrics on this album make perfect sense and are acclaimed for the way they're constructed, he wasn't just babbling on this shyt at all.
Yea every single bar connected and was relevant to the theme; while using every lyrical technique; thats the Genius of it
Man if there were some younger cats on this board who was trying to get into older albums a lot of yall would really turn them off. Lol idk if OP is trolling but most of the responses have been insults or calling it a masterpiece without descriptive details.
I would say it’s one of those albums that “hip hop purists” die by which you can’t criticize lol but I do love it because I think it’s one of those albums that captures GZA ability to rap and the production matched his strengths
But for me the beats complimented everything on this album perfectly. As far as lyrics goes I for one think it’s one of the most focused rap albums that remains true to its theme ever created simply because he didn’t chase after a hit record or a large crowd but chose to be true to what he does best and that’s be a great MC.
GZA doesn’t waste a bar and it contains no filler as far as lyricism goes. The nerd in me says GZA on this album in my opinion wrote in an blackout poetry style that wasn’t being done in 95 or til this day (though I think it wouldn’t sound as good in 23 simply because of delivery)
He was able to weave quo-tables inside of whole verses which is also were informative and story like which a lot of rappers til this day can’t do.
“I was always taught my do's and don'ts
For do's I did, and for don'ts, I said I won't”
He basically embodies everything people wanted from a dope rapper at the time
Now as far as style I would say that I do understand why you can get bored with the album. GZA tone never changes and he isn’t a super charismatic rapper he doesn’t uses his voice to capture you but his focus is his lyrics. Which is probably my biggest gripe.
The beats aren’t high energy. But they weren’t made to be. So depending on setting you may feel it or you may not.
Lol it’s not like you’re gonna be playing Liquid swords at a cookout or to have a good time.
It’s one of those quenissential hip hop that displays a certain skill set that a top tier lyricist can do. It may click with you it may not it’s nothing wrong with that.
And I’m also the one who said Deck is a better lyricist to me.
So what’s the problem?
That’s not the only definition that defines charisma. Being enthusiastic while also expressing passion makes not only speakers but artists charismatic which is why I think Ghost, Meth, Rae, and ODB were a lot of peoples favorite Wu members
I don’t agree with the lyrical miracle at all but @Blessed Koala and @O.Red have said a few things I think could be discussed that contributes to why they have a few issues with the album but this place is so much of an echo chamber that instead of discussions with them they’ve been shytted on its either you agree LS is perfect or you don’t know what you’re talking about lol
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I never even said I dislike Liquid Swordz
I think the shyt is a classic tooBut yes anything outside of universal devoted love=hate to nikkas.
I said the cover is ugly and GZA lacks charisma compared to his group members which is clear. Not once did I deny it's classic status, but nikkas don't read
I never even said I dislike Liquid Swordz
But yes anything outside of universal devoted love=hate to nikkas.
I said the cover is ugly and GZA lacks charisma compared to his group members which is clear, but nikkas don't read
My bad bro! The responses you got made it seem like you flat out hated it lol I ain’t go back all the pages.
Cover hard but I agree with the charisma 1000% I mean I don’t understand why that’s not hard to grasp.
People are bugging man. Lol