Can somebody explain why Roc-A-Fella broke up in one paragraph ?

Pimp

Banned
Joined
Sep 28, 2012
Messages
13,717
Reputation
-1,849
Daps
32,742
Reppin
NULL
The obvious...

- Jay got tired of splitting his money 3 ways

- Dame's over aggressive business style became played out.

- Dame making company moves without getting Jays input.

My theory...

- Aaliyah had something to do with it!!
i tried to tell people Jay-Z didn't have 10s of millions until after he left Dame. Splitting money 3 ways on top of what the distribution company takes must have been painful
 

The Devil's Advocate

Call me Dad
Joined
Jun 1, 2012
Messages
36,178
Reputation
8,045
Daps
100,094
Reppin
Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven
Also, he said an e-mail, a video or you guys move in the same direction it a binding agreement and is as good as a contract. Cam had a look on his face, like "that's why we never talk business."

He said many times he lets lawyers handle business disagreements, because too much emotion is involved. Dame sounds like a dude that will make things difficult.



Look at the dudes that went at Dame for being slick.

1. Beans

2. Ol' Dirty b*stard's manager (He called Dame out, and Dame was on some he white he don't understand how black folks get down. But truly, ODB manager was right.)

3. Omillio Sparks

4. Currency

5. Jim Jones

all anyone has to do is watch the backstage dvd... that's how dame handled business... imagine walking into ANY meeting and having a nikka act like that
 

Big Boss

Veteran
Joined
Sep 26, 2012
Messages
185,872
Reputation
14,800
Daps
365,408
Reppin
NULL
jay said why already





basically he felt like dame should have played the background (should have stayed in food and beverage, too much flossing, too much sam rothstein)

but dame wanted to be a star too.. all up in the videos.... dancing...

jay wrote that in his book too... the first time he met dame he was saying to himself "this dude is smart, but i wish he'd shut the fukk up)

he wanted him to be what biggs was... silent partner



dame out here screaming... like SCREAMING on bosses.. billionaires... reckless... talking shyt... showing up in hood attire while jay trying to buy into the nba and do $7 million marketing deals for kingdom come

dame said that too... dame said "the moment i knew it was over was when me and jay hopped in an elevator.. i had on my gear, hat cocked, baggy... jay had on an ascot"





now you see who jay is... you still see what dame is doing...... do you think they could still rock like that?? hell no



:ehh:
 

FrankieLymon757

All Star
Supporter
Joined
Jun 21, 2012
Messages
2,283
Reputation
700
Daps
4,342
Dame is the epitome of that Suge Knight rant at the source awards ! More or less...
 
  • Dap
Reactions: JKT

McPiff

#goat
Joined
May 1, 2012
Messages
21,836
Reputation
2,725
Daps
37,734
plain english.... from one side... but i've never heard dame say he was lying or wrong.. just that dame wanted ownership and not a job... but if that's your man, and that's what he wants.... be happy for your man and then go do your own thing



[Intro]
Uh, uh, uh, uh
It's not a diss song, it's just a real song
Feel me?


[Verse 1]
I heard motherfukkers saying they made Hov
Made Hov say, "Ok so, make another Hov"
nikkas wasn't playing they day role
So we parted ways like Ben and J-Lo

I shoulda been did it but I been in a daze though
I put friends over business end of the day though

But when friends, business interests they go
Ain't nothing left to say though
I guess we forgot what we came fo'

Shoulda stayed in food and beverage
Too much flossing
Too much Sam Rothstein

I ain't a bytch but I gotta divorce them
Hov had to get the shallow shyt up off him
And I ain't even want to be famous
nikkas is brainless to unnecessarily go through these changes
And I ain't even know how it came to this
Except that fame is
The worst drug known to man
It's stronger than, heroin

When you could look in the mirror like, "There I am"
And still not see, what you've become

I know I'm guilty of it too but, not like them
You lost one



you made me?? make another me... cause you wasn't doing your job, so i bounced.. i should have been bounced, but we was friends so i didn't.. but when your business interests start to fail, nah i gotta bounce... see we came to get billions, and your ass should have stayed in the back... but you wanted to be all in front of the camera, dancing and shyt, and i don't want no parts of how you act... shyt was shallow to do for the fame... and i'm the nikka that didn't ever want this fame in the first place so you knew i wouldn't like it... there was no need for YOU to be famous too, and i don't know why you did... except that fam is a drug and you wanted to see yourself out there.. . but you not seeing how you look to the world... i know i do some shyt too.. but it's not on your level... so i'm out nikka




people don't realize all those antics in the videos... being drunk and high always... pouring champagne on bytches... and you supposed to be the head business man... that's not a good look... cause real business men look at you like some type of fool, and either try and short you... or just simply don't fukk with you

jay in plain english said... these stupid ass moves you doing to get yourself out there, is fukking up my business deals... so fukk you

Exactly. People act like jay was supposed to be happy hitting the ceiling. He wasn't. It's obvious today, the type of moves HE wanted to make

Can anybody seriously say they could see dame involved in any of this?? Could you see dame owning .anything of a sports team how he acts? The nba wouldn't even approve it.

Could you see dame in an HP commercial. Or hobnobbing with the whites. Or putting together made in America with Opie. Or sitting down to CAA to do sports management. Yelling at people. Being drunk. High. Loud. ghetto. Harlem


No. And that's fine. Dame wants to stay the same and jay never said it was wrong. He just said it's not what he wants to do




I connect to this from having two friends and a clothing line. One is straight hood. Jail every 3 years for a stretch. Still hustling. Couldn't bring him nowhere cause he act a fool and say anything. Had to cut him off the business side

My other boy designs. But slow. Lazy. Wants to make it a hood line. Had to cut him off.


Not cause they ain't my friends. We still chill and hang. But because I can't walk into a meeting with LIDS with one and the other was happy selling to a small demo of the world. I wanted more. They couldn't see it. Now Im doing it and they salty. But was I supposed to stay where YOU want to stay? Or live my own life and conquer my own dreams


this.


but let some of these other crabs tell it, jay did dame wrong and shyt :scusthov:

dude did what he had to do to grow and get more money and achieve his own dreams

shyt
it happened to me on much much much smaller scale.

i had to part ways with an old friend, cause business wise we werent on the same page and didnt wanna settle for the less

i'm a bit more successful since then

no hard feelings though :yeshrug:
 

Olu Dara

^^^^^^^^^^^^
Supporter
Joined
May 8, 2012
Messages
8,860
Reputation
1,530
Daps
19,679
i had to part ways with an old friend, cause business wise we werent on the same page and didnt wanna settle for the less

i'm a bit more successful since then

no hard feelings though :yeshrug:

It was you who decided to part ways with your friend, not him. And you are now more successful (financially I guess). Why would you have hard feelings when it was you who ended a relationship with a friend because of money. You were never a friend
 
Joined
May 26, 2012
Messages
4,564
Reputation
420
Daps
7,120
Reppin
NULL
It was you who decided to part ways with your friend, not him. And you are now more successful (financially I guess). Why would you have hard feelings when it was you who ended a relationship with a friend because of money. You were never a friend
He was never a friend? He parted ways business wise he never said they weren't still friends. They probabky aren't though cause people feel like hiw you feel about it. If you go into business with your friend you're locked in FOR LIFE?
 

Olu Dara

^^^^^^^^^^^^
Supporter
Joined
May 8, 2012
Messages
8,860
Reputation
1,530
Daps
19,679
He was never a friend? He parted ways business wise he never said they weren't still friends. They probabky aren't though cause people feel like hiw you feel about it. If you go into business with your friend you're locked in FOR LIFE?
:ehh: I might have misinterpreted
 

wingzboy

All Star
Joined
Jul 7, 2012
Messages
2,516
Reputation
170
Daps
4,799
Reppin
NULL
Exactly. People act like jay was supposed to be happy hitting the ceiling. He wasn't. It's obvious today, the type of moves HE wanted to make

Can anybody seriously say they could see dame involved in any of this?? Could you see dame owning .anything of a sports team how he acts? The nba wouldn't even approve it.

Could you see dame in an HP commercial. Or hobnobbing with the whites. Or putting together made in America with Opie. Or sitting down to CAA to do sports management. Yelling at people. Being drunk. High. Loud. ghetto. Harlem


No. And that's fine. Dame wants to stay the same and jay never said it was wrong. He just said it's not what he wants to do




I connect to this from having two friends and a clothing line. One is straight hood. Jail every 3 years for a stretch. Still hustling. Couldn't bring him nowhere cause he act a fool and say anything. Had to cut him off the business side

My other boy designs. But slow. Lazy. Wants to make it a hood line. Had to cut him off.


Not cause they ain't my friends. We still chill and hang. But because I can't walk into a meeting with LIDS with one and the other was happy selling to a small demo of the world. I wanted more. They couldn't see it. Now Im doing it and they salty. But was I supposed to stay where YOU want to stay? Or live my own life and conquer my own dreams

what's your clothing line breh? I will cop some of your shyt
 

The Devil's Advocate

Call me Dad
Joined
Jun 1, 2012
Messages
36,178
Reputation
8,045
Daps
100,094
Reppin
Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven
It was you who decided to part ways with your friend, not him. And you are now more successful (financially I guess). Why would you have hard feelings when it was you who ended a relationship with a friend because of money. You were never a friend
be less in your life to make your friends happy brehs

do your friends tell you what to eat, how to dress, where to get jobs and if you should go to college or not too?


a real friend would have a convo about it.. realize BUSINESS wise, you don't see eye to eye.. and support you, as you do him, in the future

not be a bitter crab ass nikka.. mad that you wanted more for the company, than he was willing to put in or do




and this gentlemen is why they say money and blood/friends, don't mix. they expect you to pay them or hold them down, even when it goes directly against your best interests
 

McPiff

#goat
Joined
May 1, 2012
Messages
21,836
Reputation
2,725
Daps
37,734
It was you who decided to part ways with your friend, not him. And you are now more successful (financially I guess). Why would you have hard feelings when it was you who ended a relationship with a friend because of money. You were never a friend

We still friends breh. He's my childhood friend.
No hard feelings from him. At that time he just didnt understand why i chose to go out on my own but now he does.
:yeshrug:
 
Top