Mowgli

Veteran
Joined
May 1, 2012
Messages
103,921
Reputation
13,839
Daps
245,290
Can individuals come together for a greater cause without losing their individuality? Can people work towards the same goal without being the same?
Malcolm X and Dr. King for example. Both are civil rights leaders but their ideals and methods were different. Both of their styles kinda worked together in a good cop bad cop sorta way.
Individuality will always exist it's more about what freedom will you have to Express your individuality in your culture. Culture is what binds people together yet people will always have different temperaments, attitudes and experiences that lean them toward different interests and expressions of self
 

MischievousMonkey

Gor bu dëgër
Joined
Jun 5, 2018
Messages
18,975
Reputation
7,881
Daps
93,192
The assumes tacit acceptance by each of the component parts as to their purpose, and that every ball-bearing doesn't believe that they can one day be the steering wheel. :jbhmm:



Great question, great thread.
That's true. Thinking about it, each piece that makes a car is sized and shaped in a way that allow it to fit, build in, move with the others. Atoms connects to each other with their elementary particles to form a more complex structure. Colors work in harmony to create the whole picture.

Is it the same when it comes to people though? :jbhmm: Citizens of a nation, individuals of a people rarely all agree on which direction their respective ensemble should take, or what should be their role in it.

The structure still stands though. If I had to give a hot take I'd say it might be thanks to two things:

1) a common culture
2) a system that permeates society and is agreed on de facto, even if the individuals don't necessarily agree on its terms (for example, capitalism, citizenship and laws of the nation-state, etc)
 

MajesticLion

Veteran
Joined
Jul 17, 2018
Messages
31,301
Reputation
6,025
Daps
67,633
That's true. Thinking about it, each piece that makes a car is sized and shaped in a way that allow it to fit, build in, move with the others. Atoms connects to each other with their elementary particles to form a more complex structure. Colors work in harmony to create the whole picture.

Is it the same when it comes to people though? :jbhmm: Citizens of a nation, individuals of a people rarely all agree on which direction their respective ensemble should take, or what should be their role in it.

The structure still stands though. If I had to give a hot take I'd say it might be thanks to two things:

1) a common culture
2) a system that permeates society and is agreed on de facto, even if the individuals don't necessarily agree on its terms (for example, capitalism, citizenship and laws of the nation-state, etc)


A nation-state will try their best to develop built-in safeguards for people rebelling against their assigned roles. It will seek to direct culture via media, allow religions to take root to encourage some kind of (spiritual) conformity, push various versions of capitalist thought, a host of patchwork opiates.

All of those vastly underestimate just how unruly humanity can be, even at the most unconscious level. Humanity will rebel simply because it can.
 

get these nets

Veteran
Joined
Jul 8, 2017
Messages
55,338
Reputation
15,114
Daps
206,149
Reppin
Above the fray.
I like both concepts because everyone is working towards a common goal but boundaries are set within the group and individuality is still acknowledged and appreciated
I think that they are more realistic and practical terms.

Easy to repeat terms like "unity" or the slogans/pet phrases of internet celebs, but when people step back and think for themselves.....they realize that those are just slogans.
 

MischievousMonkey

Gor bu dëgër
Joined
Jun 5, 2018
Messages
18,975
Reputation
7,881
Daps
93,192
A nation-state will try their best to develop built-in safeguards for people rebelling against their assigned roles. It will seek to direct culture via media, allow religions to take root to encourage some kind of (spiritual) conformity, push various versions of capitalist thought, a host of patchwork opiates.

All of those vastly underestimate just how unruly humanity can be, even at the most unconscious level. Humanity will rebel simply because it can.
:wow: I want to believe that
 

Rhapscallion Démone

♊Dogset Emperor and Sociopathic Socialite ♊
Supporter
Joined
Oct 9, 2015
Messages
30,648
Reputation
19,616
Daps
140,330
I think that they are more realistic and practical terms.

Easy to repeat terms like "unity" or the slogans/pet phrases of internet celebs, but when people step back and think for themselves.....they realize that those are just slogans.
They got me working from home today and they asking me questions about teamwork and unity.
22abe1061a56824ec8bb86bbc68be199.jpg


You are articulated the stuff I'm reading right now perfectly. It all sounds generic and like slogans.
 

Complexion

ʇdᴉɹɔsǝɥʇdᴉlɟ
Joined
Jan 1, 2018
Messages
6,346
Reputation
5,419
Daps
27,972
There isn't any real unity in this age but there is plenty of uniformity.

Look around, people copy whats hot and think its their style when in reality they're just drones who've adopted personas to fit in to what society (aka corporate interests made flesh) expects. People spit out trite phrases and go through the motions but none of their moves are natural as they are strangers to themselves.

Thats why you see things like:

58e4b41fc6aca_oyKe5SR__605.jpg


impressive.jpg

Glitches-In-The-Matrix-18.jpg


10-real-glitches-in-the-matrix-that-will-freak-you-out-21.jpg


Thats your unity except it comes from people attempting to express their "individuality" which just proves its conformity in disguise, not to mention how 99% of people have personalities/inner worlds that function very similar to others as they've been molded by the same system that slowly sanded off their quirks to create generic employees that can easily be trained and replaced.

Its a dirty game.
 

Rhapscallion Démone

♊Dogset Emperor and Sociopathic Socialite ♊
Supporter
Joined
Oct 9, 2015
Messages
30,648
Reputation
19,616
Daps
140,330
There isn't any real unity in this age but there is plenty of uniformity.

Look around, people copy whats hot and think its their style when in reality they're just drones who've adopted personas to fit in to what society (aka corporate interests made flesh) expects. People spit out trite phrases and go through the motions but none of their moves are natural as they are strangers to themselves.

Thats why you see things like:

58e4b41fc6aca_oyKe5SR__605.jpg


impressive.jpg

Glitches-In-The-Matrix-18.jpg


10-real-glitches-in-the-matrix-that-will-freak-you-out-21.jpg


Thats your unity except it comes from people attempting to express their "individuality" which just proves its conformity in disguise, not to mention how 99% of people have personalities/inner worlds that function very similar to others as they've been molded by the same system that slowly sanded off their quirks to create generic employees that can easily be trained and replaced.

Its a dirty game.
That's some village of the damned shyt^^^

 

Prodyson

All Star
Joined
May 22, 2012
Messages
3,968
Reputation
1,023
Daps
11,588
I think that the only way for effective progression is to have both unity and uniformity amongst individuals. The problem is that we have individuals who want control over the entire unit/uniform instead “staying in their lane.”

To piggyback off of the car part analogy, each part of the car plays its role. The battery doesn’t try to make the car change directions. It simply provides power to the electrical systems. Individuals needs to function in their own role for the sake of the entire unit. We love power so much that we shirk the value of our individuality for the sake of control and fame.
 

BaggerofTea

Veteran
Bushed
Supporter
Joined
Sep 15, 2014
Messages
51,907
Reputation
-1,341
Daps
254,260
No, there is a reason why the military has uniforms, regulated haircut, similar basic training across all branches.
 
Top