Can we be real about Master P?

[Ya Sinning Mane]

Op is not bout it bout it

 

[Wacky D]

He was always more of a hustler/businessman than a skilled rapper

I still liked some of his stuff, particularly back in his Richmond days, but he was never a good rapper.

I mean, he was never a textbook skilled rapper but his catalog is certainly top 10, if people want to be really real.

Ain't nobody finna rank cannibus over 50 cent.

 

[JustCKing]

I never understood this whole notion that P was never a good rapper. P was never some elite lyricist, but he wasn't trying to be. He was dope. Unfortunately, his best performance was on an album that dropped before he blew up (Ghetto's Tryin To Kill Me). Ice Cream Man and Ghetto D are dope with Ghetto D being a classic. Da Last Don was his fall off even though Disc 1 is dope. There's some heat on Disc 2, but is easily weaker than Disc 1. By the time OGCJM dropped, it was over.

 

[Tribal Outkast]

His legacy can’t be denied. He’s not necessarily my favorite either, but he gave us some classic music. He did take over in a great time period for hiphop, I don’t get the hiphop wasn’t developed yet thing though

 

[Mag Wheel]

This thread is pretty much facts. Them nikkaz was trash and 80% of their beats were dookie too.

 

[JustCKing]

His legacy can’t be denied. He’s not necessarily my favorite either, but he gave us some classic music. He did take over in a great time period for hiphop, I don’t get the hiphop wasn’t developed yet thing though

This.

I'm still trying to figure out the whole "Hip Hop wasn't developed yet" as well. Master P's dominance came at a time when Hip Hop was opening up bigger budgets and we were seeing multiple Hip Hop releases have massive first week sales and multiple albums sell 5 million and over. Then there's The South. P came out a time when Southern Hip Hop was thriving on a national level. P blew up at a time when No Limit's Southern raw, rugged, more gangsta sound was the answer to Bad Boy's East Coast polished, more mainstreamed sound. This was when "gangsta rap" was written off in favor of a more party friendly, mainstream sound.

 

[SunnyD]

Master P was/ is a marketing genius. It was never really about quality with him. He was a numbers guy who saw an opening .. so he filled it. No Limit was everywhere at one point it felt like they had a cd out every week for YEARS. To me he helped usher in the lazy phase. Not work ethnic but lack of quality/ care. I also blame him for Silk the Shocker because … Silk the Shocker

 

[CrimsonTider]

Going back and listening..most of it is trash. He definitely had classic shyt though.

Nothing before da last don was trash

 

[oO J Smooth Oo]

This thread is ass, p made great music up until around 1999

Da last don>>>

 

[Ohene]

acquired taste maybe. but nothing sucked about Ghetto D/Ice Cream Man

and Tru 2 the Game / True had bangers

 

[Hathaway]

No P slander will be tolerated

 

[Fmju]

ice cream man is a classic fukk this thread

 

[360dagod]

Master P and No Limit made some good music from 1994 to 1999,


P's hard-headedness is the reason why BBTP left.


When BBTP left, the quality went down.

P is cheap and caught lightning in a bottle with BBTP in the 1st place..

 

[Tribal Outkast]

Nothing before da last don was trash

Da Last Don was really the beginning of the end huh? Lol. Everybody says that

 

[Shadow King]

Anybody with sense knows this.