Can We End This Hotep Shyt in 2016?

[EndDomination]

Do you have a link, I'd like to see it.

On another note: black american obsession with ancient Egypt as opposed to West Africa (where much of their ancestry actually hails from) is due to only one of these two being a civilization universally accepted as such... a civilization... moreover one whose influence and legacy are undeniable and actually celebrated. If there were pyramids in Benin then they'd rep that too.

I really don't know much about ancient Egypt and its people, whether they were mainly subsaharan, asiatic or caucasian. But unless they had some relation to Guinea and Guineans, I ultimately don't care. But like someone else said these guys are mainly inoffensive, so it's all good.

Part of the reason is due to the continued narrative that Egypt was the only "modern society," imagine if, inthe last 30 years Afro-centric people had spent more and more effort trying to advertise ancient Ethiopia, Sierra Leone, Niger and Nigeria? We would know much, much more about the histories and achievements of the people(s) of these countries, and discover a lot of marvels.
And I'll find one. He has since changed it up after getting dragged through the mud, but nearly all of the pre-2014 stuff looked like this:

 

[little4209]

I get the frustration. However is the ridicule they get unwarranted? I'd be more than willing to learn about anything that relates to African history more than anything else. But if you're going to teach it, do proper research and do not engage in fallacy, fabrications and other bullshyt to soothe your self-esteem.

A lot of what these cats spout is preposterous, I mean you're not your physical body I immediately dismiss whatever else you have to say.

go on. it's a conversation, be more specific than that

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't there truth in this? He was kinda trying to explain that point lol..by saying how the mind and body are seperate and that "we" our "beings" are not our bodies..ultimately because the body is just the vessel..idk lol I got lost at the 5th dimension part

 

[EndDomination]

Again...how are you assuming this is all their doing and why are you trying to shame them for trying to learn African history? That's hella judgemental.

And like I said before, as long as they start somewhere the journey to knowledge with always bear fruit. What makes you an authority on this and really...who are YOU to judge them?

Then again, you're a college kid trying to coerce a 31 year old man who's been there, done that, and more into your way of thinking which is 100% futile.

No.
That is what they are doing. Because they're diverting from genuine African history, y'know, what actually happened, are jumping into conspiracy theories, pseudo-spiritualism, and a revision of even Egyptian history.
You're allowed to judge people You sound like a White liberal who isn't into violent BDSM and thinks you have to have some significant position to judge a person, and that's entirely untrue. I'm smart enough to know bullshyt when I see it.
I remember blogging solely about African American and African (broad category, right) issues on BlogSpot, Wordpress, Tumblr, talking about it on Facebook, and even posting in a few forums about it years ago. It always, and really still does, only go two ways. Either I receive opposition from racists, or I get diverted by Hoteps.
You know Black men who put down Black women, while still claiming to be "Black Power, Black Unity, Black Family?" You know Umar Johnson fans? The Hebrew Israelites? All Hoteps. All the people who used to want to push my conversation of imperialism and colonialism, into a conversation about "spirit" and "third eye" and "knowledge."
I've heard it all in the last decade, I grew up with African Art all throughout the house, African-American and African authors on every book shelf, and a movie case full of the Blackest movies of history.
I know enough to judge them, and I really can't be deterred from that.

 

[Unknown Poster]

Part of the reason is due to the continued narrative that Egypt was the only "modern society," imagine if, inthe last 30 years Afro-centric people had spent more and more effort trying to advertise ancient Ethiopia, Sierra Leone, Niger and Nigeria? We would know much, much more about the histories and achievements of the people(s) of these countries, and discover a lot of marvels.

Dude.

Please take into consideration the last 30 years when you mention things like this. The internet has only been a widely accessible resource for the last 15 years. Not alot of people were using this. I've been using the internet since 1999 when I was 15. Also, you have to consideration that alot of the narratives of African cultures, civilizations, and just general news about African countries is obscured by western narratives that are intellectual and factually dishonest. Basically, they were purposely not presented the way they should of been: devoid of bias. Most people (regardless of race) aren't even concerned about African culture and history like that cause they've digested these narratives that present Africa as a continent as one singular entity riddled with disease, corruption, famine, poverty, civil warfare and strife.

You should of thought this one out before saying it.

 

[Unknown Poster]

No.
That is what they are doing. Because they're diverting from genuine African history, y'know, what actually happened, are jumping into conspiracy theories, pseudo-spiritualism, and a revision of even Egyptian history.
You're allowed to judge people You sound like a White liberal who isn't into violent BDSM and thinks you have to have some significant position to judge a person, and that's entirely untrue. I'm smart enough to know bullshyt when I see it.
I remember blogging solely about African American and African (broad category, right) issues on BlogSpot, Wordpress, Tumblr, talking about it on Facebook, and even posting in a few forums about it years ago. It always, and really still does, only go two ways. Either I receive opposition from racists, or I get diverted by Hoteps.
You know Black men who put down Black women, while still claiming to be "Black Power, Black Unity, Black Family?" You know Umar Johnson fans? The Hebrew Israelites? All Hoteps. All the people who used to want to push my conversation of imperialism and colonialism, into a conversation about "spirit" and "third eye" and "knowledge."
I've heard it all in the last decade, I grew up with African Art all throughout the house, African-American and African authors on every book shelf, and a movie case full of the Blackest movies of history.
I know enough to judge them, and I really can't be deterred from that.

How old are you? Please answer this.

 

[EndDomination]

Dude.

Please take into consideration the last 30 years when you mention things like this. The internet has only been a widely accessible resource for the last 15 years. Not alot of people were using this. I've been using the internet since 1999 when I was 15. Also, you have to consideration that alot of the narratives of African cultures, civilizations, and just general news about African countries is obscured by western narratives that are intellectual and factually dishonest. Basically, they were purposely not presented the way they should of been: devoid of bias. Most people (regardless of race) aren't even concerned about African culture and history like that cause they've digested these narratives that present Africa as a continent as one singular entity riddled with disease, corruption, famine, poverty, civil warfare and strife.

You should of thought this one out before saying it.

We're talking about people who are and have been concerned about Africa the last 30 years. They should be able to tell the difference.
I knew the difference between the narratives in class and reality when I was in elementary school, and these are adults we're talking about.

 

[EndDomination]

How old are you? Please answer this.

I'm 19.
Here we go: the old man who spent his adolescent years chasing women and jacking off to his imagination is going to tell the college student about how he's too young to know the real world and is too skewed in his views even as the young college student continues to work toward change in the Black community as a whole and has a much more well-rounded view of the world than his peers.
Right?

 

[EndDomination]

Those old dudes are too left side brain. Young dude is using both sides of the brain to debate

Like this
Brain function is never centered on one side of the brain.

 

[CinnaSlim]

I think the spiritual is just as important as the physical. You need to balance both to be wholly healthy, (holistic health). It shouldn't be all one or the other. And if you can't comprehend the spiritual realm, think mental/emotional.

Mental/emotional health is just as important as physical health. The mind is the mediator /translator between the two realms. It's not difficult to understand but some people will use advance terms and ideas while talking to people who are just beginning their spiritual journey. You can't talk above people, you have to speak to them on their level.

 

[Absalom's Thought]

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[Unknown Poster]

I'm 19.
Here we go: the old man who spent his adolescent years chasing women and jacking off to his imagination is going to tell the college student about how he's too young to know the real world and is too skewed in his views even as the young college student continues to work toward change in the Black community as a whole and has a much more well-rounded view of the world than his peers.
Right?

Right. And you have no idea how I spent my younger years so your assumptions are moot.
Thank you very much for answering this.

I now know to not take you seriously. You're just another young kid who has no idea of how the real world works nor do you even realize how much work I've done in my life to get to the point of knowledge and understanding I'm at now.

 

[EndDomination]

That's metaphysical nonsense. You are. What is not, is not.

You are literally the collection of atoms that form your body, your mind is the result of your brain's ability to perceive stimuli. It's not some obscure realm or mystic dimension; it exists due to the mechanics of your body. This spirit and soul nonsense is for birds.

I wouldn't even try to explain to them.
Metaphysics are a philosophical mental exercise and should almost never be applied to reality.

 

[MajorVitaman]

go on. it's a conversation, be more specific than that

Ok

Do you have a link, I'd like to see it.

On another note: black american obsession with ancient Egypt as opposed to West Africa (where much of their ancestry actually hails from) is due to only one of these two being a civilization universally accepted as such... a civilization... moreover one whose influence and legacy are undeniable and actually celebrated. If there were pyramids in Benin then they'd rep that too.

I really don't know much about ancient Egypt and its people, whether they were mainly subsaharan, asiatic or caucasian. But unless they had some relation to Guinea and Guineans, I ultimately don't care. But like someone else said these guys are mainly inoffensive, so it's all good.

1. The ONLY reason "Egypt" is such a big deal is because of cacs. When you look at European history, the first time they've EVER controlled anything in Africa was in 332BC when Alexander defeated the Persians and took over their territory on the very edge of the Nile River. This is why the average African will know about "Alexander the great" yet will look at you crazy if you said "Kemet".

2. This is why studying migration patterns and timelines are so important. If you look at all the empires that popped up in West, Central and South Africa you will see they all have a direct link to the Nile in one way or another. You will notice that all these empires pop up after 525BC (first Persian invasion and the last time Native Africans controlled Kemet)

3. Its not about the "pyramids" West Africa and south Africa has plenty of great ancient architecture (that haven't been destroyed from Europeans after 1492AD). You will also notice the Olmec in Mexico built pyramids in America and they traveled from West Africa to get to Mexico. All you have to do is compare the architecture and you'll see.

4. This is a common trick that eurocentrics use to get nikkas thinking "Egypt was a mixed society". "Egypt" (Greek word) post 332BC was mixed. "kemet" was not.

5. And the fact that you "don't care" about other Africans other than 1 individual country is the exact mindset that is our downfall right now and the last 2,348 years. Divide and conquer man.

 

[EndDomination]

100% yes. And you have no idea how I spent my younger years so your assumptions are moot.
Thank you very much for answering this.

I now know to not take you seriously. You're just another young kid who has no idea of how the real world works nor do you even realize how much work I've done in my life to get to the point of knowledge and understanding I'm at now.

Do whatever you want. I'll be at the FedReserve in a few months working on monetary policy for the "real world," while part-time teaching urban students of the "real world" about the ways they can pay for college and issues in the judiciary system.

 

[Absalom's Thought]

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