Can we stop the MYTH that Rick Ross won his beef with 50 cent?

[Art Barr]

The diss records from that beef were horrible so neither of them won from that stand point but post beef Ross has definitely been the winner. Ross has put out a lot of good shyt since then and 50 has put out nothing memorable

All of the fiddy and g unit songs were top quality disses.
There is no way to discredit the fiddy and g unit disses to Rick Ross.

There is no way, no way.

All three disses are classic diss records of all time, too.


Art Barr

 

[Rayzah]

breh you and 50 live in a different world where things like authenticity, credibility and skills still matter

those things are long gone

what you will never understand is how somebody can be retarded enough to root for a fat fraudulent fukk who watched Scarface one too many times, got exposed and punked in the worst ways imaginable and still has the nerve to front like he's the king of rap

the truth is that the fans are as stupid as the gimmicks they buy - Rick Ross is a template rapper who's been selling the same template album with the same template songs for about a decade

yes, 50 exposed Ross for being an entirely fabricated persona, yes his diss tracks were better, yes he got at him on the street level but people still say Ross won that because:

1. 50 was on top for too long and created way too much hate - his decline was inevitable; around 2007-2008 damn near everybody wanted to see him fall
2. Ross played his cards correctly and won by a landslide - he did his best to ignore 50 and capitalized off his fraud image which the public was stupid and ignorant enough to buy

mark my words, Officer Ross is just the beginning

not one person responded to this tho lol.. this board aint shyt, I swear I feel like an idot for posting here sometimes..

I don't think anyone thinks Rick Ross won the beef/battle, I remember even The Game was like "50 is killing Ross". It's just that Ross continued to maintain his career and popularity in the rap world and was still able to prosper, he lived thru the onslaught. The fact that he survived and flourished is commendable, he didn't beat 50 tho, he didn't really do anything, lol. In the 90's Ross would have been finished, in the 2000's any and everything is accepted, you could be gay, a cop, a crossdresser, a drug addict, etc... don't matter, fans just wanna dance. His baby moms definitely did beat 50 tho,

exactly, its funny how we decide when we want to break out the "whats allowed in hip hop rule book" on here, one thread we love young thug and the next drake is a fraud, followed by ross is a real boss. a bunch of idiots in here

You do you realize the majority of gangsta rappers from the 90's were fantasy right? Dre,Nas,Cube,Mobb Deep,etc..never put in any work..and all dropped classic music. The others that were slightly involved with the streets exaggerated their status to super gangstas and drug kingpins Snoop,Jay-Z,Biggie,Pac (my goat) all these dudes lied on records.

I could make an argument that there's more legit gangsta nikkas in rap from 05-15 than 88-98.

But just a few months ago (or days if you still consider it July) people were acting like Drake should be kicked out of hip hop for having lines wrote for him.. I said it then, you say snoop wasn't really about that life and we all know he has had songs written for him, so has Dre but no one has ever questioned their credibility. But we all became super hip hop gate keepers to discredit drake cause he is half white.. #thedoublestandards

 

[Dominic Brehetto]

The 50 cent/ross beef was when I knew mainstream hip hop was dead and the culture was over.


If in the 90s a rapper got exposed as badly as 50 did to ross his career would have been over.

But ross fans were in the moment dikk riders,same as drake stans now. Theres literally nothing you can say or do to change their mind.


Funny enough ross sales are dwindling and hes not as hot anymore so his stan base has mostly dried up. Hes not "cool" anymore.

Thats the only thing these new age hipster fans care about. Wether the artists is "cool" to like. Just lame trendy shyt.

Even though 50 literally destroyed ross in the beef it didnt matter because fans dont care anymore. Same thing with drake and the ghost writing.

 

[Young/Nacho\Drawz]

Did 50 ever graduate High School? Just curious.

 

[SunZoo]

I guess it might be I just don't like Ross' style like that but if we actually containing the beef/battle to the tracks I def liked Tia Told me over any of Ross' records.

Like that Mafia Music shyt nikkas is geeking over...I don't know man, I understand the appeal and why people fukk with this shyt but I be seeing yall string together "quotables" from dude that just don't connect. Way better diss tracks came out of the g-unit camp and this is me at least making a decent effort to be objective about it. Thing is people aren't talking about THAT.

They ain't judge the shyt off of the conflict, they judging off the after effects. He's getting credit for surviving, not for winning. If Ross "won" this with simply maintaining his momentum after the exchange then we might as well say Jay beat Nas too.



I think it really just puts 50's "win" over Ja in proper perspective that even he understood. Ja beat himself by losing the crowd and so did 50. And truth be told he lost it before it got to that point to Kanye. Even if he had "ended" Ross (nobody's career has ended over a song) it wouldn't have helped him any. He was still gonna get edged out by frauds, fruit pops and mid-tier trap rappers. That nikka was the last Tyransaurus Rex walking...we will never see another "gangsta" rapper do it that big. He's gone now.

 

[50CentStan]

10 years from now 50 will still be around while Rozay will be Trick Daddy status, 50 won.

Power>>> anything Ross has done on this earth.

and power isnt even 50s biggest or most succesful venture People that hate on 50 are dudes that got bullied in school, and had to sit in the next room while their mom was getting banged out. #facts

 

[Denzel_Saucegton]

After that gunplay footage... he letting his homeboy's get them hands put on him and baby momma go on shopping spree's and getting dug out on tape.

 

[MVike28]

Irony of all this is 50 took Ross baby mama shopping


Flipped the script on the CO

And then she sued him and took his money

 

[MVike28]

50 is that nikka tho

Last of a dying breed

But that doesn't mean Ross didn't win the battle musically

nikkas need to stop being so fukking binary

Both are doing very well for themselves

 

[RTF]

Rick Ross put the final nail in 50's musical career.

 

[RTF]

Songs/beefs don't end careers? Meek Mill is DONE. If he releases an album in the next 2 years, it's doing 1/4 of the numbers. Meek Mill is finished.

 

[larryshogunz]

I aint no Ross stan. But...shyt aint a myth. There's no doubt that Ross won the war. Come to think of it....since the beef popped off, Curtis has been on the decline. People praising diss tracks that I aint ever heard of (must not be too tight if it didn't create any buzz). Curly stans are soo desperate, they trying to use Banks' diss in this 50 vs Ross thread. Just to name a few:

-Mafia Music / Foreclosures > Any 50 diss track
-Ross is way more musically relevant then Curtis
-Ross can still float on a beat, while 50 trying to stay afloat in life
-50 could never push his homies/label to the heights that Ross has done with his
-50 tried getting personal with using Ross' family, only to cover up the fact that he cant do anything musically
-Curtis stay burning houses down cuz he a jealous muthafukka
-Wing Stop > Any failing Curtis business venture
-Ross style sense > swagless Curtis and his Jorts
-Ross stay talking about pitching them birds, while 50 is nationally known for throwing out the worst 1st pitch in a baseball game
-Lose rap wars and lawsuits to the same group brehs
-Have an album called "Get Rich Or Die Trying" and make a track called "I Get Money", and do neither
-Beef with a top boxer, to only apologize and run back to him when times get tuff
-Be hated by your own seed
-Be the definition of Karma
-Attempt to sue a lawfirm
-Let wrinkled ass Chelsea Handler sit on your woodface

 

[OnlyInCalifornia]

The delusions from Curly stans is always entertaining.

He's lost on every front but somehow it's a myth he lost the war

But I am not sure why anyone is surprised, these same posters also think he makes good, relevant music too.

 

[NvrCMyNut]

The 50 cent/ross beef was when I knew mainstream hip hop was dead and the culture was over.


If in the 90s a rapper got exposed as badly as 50 did to ross his career would have been over.

But ross fans were in the moment dikk riders,same as drake stans now. Theres literally nothing you can say or do to change their mind.


Funny enough ross sales are dwindling and hes not as hot anymore so his stan base has mostly dried up. Hes not "cool" anymore.

Thats the only thing these new age hipster fans care about. Wether the artists is "cool" to like. Just lame trendy shyt.

Even though 50 literally destroyed ross in the beef it didnt matter because fans dont care anymore. Same thing with drake and the ghost writing.

accurate af.

 

[CM_Burns]

The cac hipster community was so firmly on Ross side at the time, and it's mostly just 50s diehard stans that listen to him now, that's why people think Ross won.