Can we talk about careerist politicians?

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Just thinking about all the Republicans and the 8 millionaire Dems who voted no on raising the hourly minimum wage to more than the cost of an average fast food meal.

It seems the majority of Congress is amoral. They may have some degree of principle left, but whatever is left is always drowned out by personal self-interest and acquisition of power so it’s rendered essential useless.

It seems it’s usually a personality type: the careerist who worships at the alter of “high achievement.” They’re not the best and often not the brightest either. They just have that hyper-focused ass personality type that lends well to academia plus a ruthlessness that this society rewards with better career opportunities.

Usually they did well in school and had financial and career success, and see getting into politics is really no different than a good internship or promotion. They define and validate themselves by how much success they can have. Going from a House Rep to a Senator etc. is just like climbing the corporate ladder.

They might think they are doing good, but that is often a product of narcissism and vanity about their success. They think they’re one of the special people in society who deserve to make decisions governing others because they’ve proven that they stand out of the pack and therefore know what’s best for everyone else.

The don’t see or don’t care about the flaw in the thinking of being adept at gaining personal power and abundance automatically makes them equipped to govern the lives of the masses.

Even if it did and they are the good bleeding heart elite who would like to help the people, it never happens because that altruistic desire will never supersede their religion of careerism. When voting on a bill or crafting legislation, “this will be good for people” will never trump “this will hurt my career.”

And it doesn’t end after Washington of course. They’re thinking about that lobbying money, that consultant money, that book deal, that netflix deal, whatever.

I’m generalizing somewhat, but I think that generally describes the majority of Congress...especially on the Dem side. The Repub side is a little different in that the achievement thing is usually some fukking idiot businessman or lawyer somewhere in shytty rural county who lucked their way into money and connections. Then you got your Cruz’s and Hawleys, high-achieving careerists who are whole DSM-5 certified psychopaths.

Legally getting money out of politics and having public financing of campaigns would help a lot with this cause then you could have more good genuine people with principles running instead of these reptilians.
 
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Who in Congress do you think isn't a careerist? Even you most leftist politician is in line with party leadership except it seems Manchin and Sinema.
 

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Who in Congress do you think isn't a careerist? Even you most leftist politician is in line with party leadership except it seems Manchin and Sinema.
There are a few that aren’t only in it for career advancement. I don’t have a list, but Bernie, AOC, and Cori Bush come to mind as people who I think are motivated more by principle and concern for people than career advancement and acquisition of power.
 

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Too many geezers in Congress too. Nobody 70 and up should be allowed to continue taking up space, especially after having had a career in politics. Congress should be made up of relatively young and energetic people.

I agree lowkey, or at the very least the Senate needs an age limit.
 

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There are a few that aren’t only in it for career advancement. I don’t have a list, but Bernie, AOC, and Cori Bush come to mind as people who I think are motivated more by principle and concern for people than career advancement and acquisition of power.
Bernie is a career politician tho maybe despite his good intentions. I doubt it happened by accident. AOC and Cori is a wait and see they got to prove they are willing to do something against public perception and their party to prove it eventually.
 

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There are a few that aren’t only in it for career advancement. I don’t have a list, but Bernie, AOC, and Cori Bush come to mind as people who I think are motivated more by principle and concern for people than career advancement and acquisition of power.
Bernie is definitely a career politician. It’s the only career he’s had. He just happens to have good intentions with it.
 

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The term "career politician" doesn't really say much, it only makes sense if having a career as a politician inherently makes you amoral.

I agree with your sentiment completely, though there isn't much of a difference between the Dems and the Repubs - the latter perhaps being more openly on the side of making money from less popular industries, but both are largely there on the dime of corporations and lobbyists whose interests they have at heart.

The few that I find tolerable like Sanders, Tlaib, Bush, Omar, Cortez, etc. commonly push back against those corporate/bourgeois interests - and are unpopular because of that.

Term limits, campsign-finance laws, and broad restrictions on the "revolving door" are partial solutions to the issue.
 

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There’s literally no way for our system to heal until big donor money is not allowed in politics. There should be a limit on donation amounts and they should only be able to come from constituents, and not corporations or lobbyists.

There should absolutely be term limits as well as age limits. At some point you’re just too old to be in touch with the lives of regular folks that you’re representing.

I also think they should get paid less, and/or not be able to take multiple vacations in the middle of crisis’ like this pandemic.

These are people that have free health care and never miss a paycheck. It’s crazy that these “public servants” can be millionaires, while getting to make decisions that affect the working class and poor people.
 

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Bernie is definitely a career politician. It’s the only career he’s had. He just happens to have good intentions with it.
No doubt. I think when people say career politician they usually mean someone that has ambitions to rise through the power ranks. Maybe there should be a better term for it.
 

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bernie is the definition of a careerist politician. his good intentions dont negate what hes added to the problem

we need 18 year term limits for the house and senate. im fine with people seeking the stability, and the bernies of the world being in there for 18 years. i think 18 would have a chance of passing but get rid of these fukkin 80 year olds
 

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@Mephistopheles how do you develop and acquire a hyper-focused ass personality type? Is that an in-born trait or something that can be developed?
 
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