Can we talk about careerist politicians?

[Professor Emeritus]

Bernie Sanders followed by Diane Feinstein...

bernie is the definition of a careerist politician. his good intentions dont negate what hes added to the problem

Huh. This was the OP:

""It seems it’s usually a personality type: the careerist who worships at the alter of “high achievement.” They’re not the best and often not the brightest either. They just have that hyper-focused ass personality type that lends well to academia plus a ruthlessness that this society rewards with better career opportunities.""

""Even if it did and they are the good bleeding heart elite who would like to help the people, it never happens because that altruistic desire will never supersede their religion of careerism. When voting on a bill or crafting legislation, “this will be good for people” will never trump “this will hurt my career.”

And it doesn’t end after Washington of course. They’re thinking about that lobbying money, that consultant money, that book deal, that netflix deal, whatever.""


Do y'all really look at the last 60 years of Bernie Sanders's life and think that fits him? If "high achievement" and "this will help my career" and "lobbying money" were his goals, them why the fukk did he make the decisions he did?

 

[EndDomination]

Because if you actually read what I said in the OP, he is the antithesis of what I described.

Edit: indeed he is.

 

[the cac mamba]

Huh. This was the OP:

""It seems it’s usually a personality type: the careerist who worships at the alter of “high achievement.” They’re not the best and often not the brightest either. They just have that hyper-focused ass personality type that lends well to academia plus a ruthlessness that this society rewards with better career opportunities.""

""Even if it did and they are the good bleeding heart elite who would like to help the people, it never happens because that altruistic desire will never supersede their religion of careerism. When voting on a bill or crafting legislation, “this will be good for people” will never trump “this will hurt my career.”

And it doesn’t end after Washington of course. They’re thinking about that lobbying money, that consultant money, that book deal, that netflix deal, whatever.""


Do y'all really look at the last 60 years of Bernie Sanders's life and think that fits him? If "high achievement" and "this will help my career" and "lobbying money" were his goals, them why the fukk did he make the decisions he did?

hes never had a real job loosen up that cape

 

[Professor Emeritus]

hes never had a real job loosen up that cape

What kind of idiotic disingenuous reply is that? Even if it weren't a lie, how would "he's never had a real job" justify the claim that he operates with ruthlessness. worships at the alter of high achievement, avoids votes that will help people because he'd rather advance his career, and is always thinking about that lobbying and consulting money? Your reply is relevant to NOTHING in my comment.

And it's even worse cause the reply in itself was a lie. It's amazing the degree to which you simply regurgitate right-wing narratives without even doing the research to figure out if they're true or not.

Bernie Sanders didn't hold his first position as a politician until he was 40. In the 20 years before then (both of his parents were dead by the time he was 20), he worked as a head start teacher, psychiatric aide, carpenter, producer of documentary/activist films, educational writer, and directed a non-profit. And he was a single father.

How can you take someone who didn't draw a salary as a politician until they were 40 and claim they had never had a job?

 

[Piff Huxtable]

I like Bernie, but he went from being Mayor to Representative to Senator. Then he tried to become President. Twice. Holding elected office in 38 of the last 40 years.

How is that not a careerist politician?

On the flipside you could make an argument that Ron Johnson () is not

 

[Wargames]

Politicians are all just egos with budgets.

Their main concern will always be winning their next election

 

[No1]

The primary person this describes is Cruz who is clearly smarter than the shyt he says and does but has no moral center.

 

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

Hillary

First lady to senator to sec state with 2 failed prez runs

 

[wtfyomom]

breh theyre ALL careerists. even the squad , sorry to say but if you dont think so after all the post covid shyt that didnt happen with our government? if any of them were not careerists theyd be fighting and screaming non stop to help people. instead they do nothing

 

[wtfyomom]

carrerist and career are not the same. foh at bernie being 1st. im not even saying hes not a careerist but hes the least one. to me Obama comes to mind first and foremost. total careerist. and more recently AOC. AOC to me took a hard turn to careerist. shes on IG 24/7 with resisntance liberals. she virtue signals non stop over bullshyt but then she will let her bookcase be taken a picture with like das kapital just to signal to the left. its obvious af

are the republicans even careerists or just straight up ghouls?

 

[wtfyomom]

The term "career politician" doesn't really say much, it only makes sense if having a career as a politician inherently makes you amoral.

I agree with your sentiment completely, though there isn't much of a difference between the Dems and the Repubs - the latter perhaps being more openly on the side of making money from less popular industries, but both are largely there on the dime of corporations and lobbyists whose interests they have at heart.

The few that I find tolerable like Sanders, Tlaib, Bush, Omar, Cortez, etc. commonly push back against those corporate/bourgeois interests - and are unpopular because of that.

Term limits, campsign-finance laws, and broad restrictions on the "revolving door" are partial solutions to the issue.

neoliberal supporters do think a politician is not a real job. but if you sit around moving money around on a screen like a hedge fund manager, thats a real job to them. theres nothing wrong with being a politician all your life if youre not corrupt. what other job would people act like its amoral to do what youre good at ?

 

[Piff Huxtable]

carrerist and career are not the same. foh at bernie being 1st. im not even saying hes not a careerist but hes the least one. to me Obama comes to mind first and foremost. total careerist. and more recently AOC. AOC to me took a hard turn to careerist. shes on IG 24/7 with resisntance liberals. she virtue signals non stop over bullshyt but then she will let her bookcase be taken a picture with like das kapital just to signal to the left. its obvious af

are the republicans even careerists or just straight up ghouls?

I don't think you understand the question if you call Bernie the least careerist