Can we talk about careerist politicians?

[Professor Emeritus]

While I'm tired of too many old people in politics, I don't see the OP as hitting the central issue until you get to the final paragraph. And by the responses in here I'm guessing most people didn't even read to that paragraph because they're saying shyt that pretty much directly contradicts it.


The biggest issue, by far, is money. The worst people in Congress aren't doing this shyt for their own self-fulfillment, they're doing it to get kickbacks and future career opportunities. Term limits don't solve the problem, because that just increases the frequency with which politicians are going to hit the revolving door, they'll use their time in Congress to pay off companies and set up lucrative do-nothing positions to wait for them when they're done.

I do think we need to get rid of the Feinsteins and such who seem to have rotted to their chair, but I'm not sure what the simple solution is that actually helps the problem.

 

[EndDomination]

Who in Congress do you think isn't a careerist? Even you most leftist politician is in line with party leadership except it seems Manchin and Sinema.

Manchin is in-line with Party leadership, its just Republican Party leadership

 

[EndDomination]

I'd like for posters to name the politician that first comes to their mind after reading the OP

Mitch McConnell. Don Young, Grassley, and Leahy

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

Bernie is definitely a career politician. It’s the only career he’s had. He just happens to have good intentions with it.

Yeah he’s a career politician for sure, but he isn’t a careerist (my own personal definition I made up) like I described: someone who sees public office as just a means of acquiring and amassing personal wealth and power, and a justifies it by their own perceived exceptional achievement...and it doesn’t end even out of office either.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

Bernie Sanders

The WOAT stay the WOAT.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

While I'm tired of too many old people in politics, I don't see the OP as hitting the central issue until you get to the final paragraph. And by the responses in here I'm guessing most people didn't even read to that paragraph because they're saying shyt that pretty much directly contradicts it.


The biggest issue, by far, is money. The worst people in Congress aren't doing this shyt for their own self-fulfillment, they're doing it to get kickbacks and future career opportunities. Term limits don't solve the problem, because that just increases the frequency with which politicians are going to hit the revolving door, they'll use their time in Congress to pay off companies and set up lucrative do-nothing positions to wait for them when they're done.

I do think we need to get rid of the Feinsteins and such who seem to have rotted to their chair, but I'm not sure what the simple solution is that actually helps the problem.

Exactly. Term limits won’t stop people using their one or two congressional terms as just a step in their career path, setting themselves up for their next venture as a lobbyist, executive or some other form of grift.

The Pentagon and defense contractors is one of the most egregious cases of this revolving door. I don’t know if it’s still the same number but I remember reading a while back how over 70% of retired generals go work in the defense industry when they’re done.

Elected officials are making voting decisions based on how it will affect their post-public service career.

 

[DEAD7]

The WOAT stay the WOAT.

He's the most popular politician... and pictures of him marching in the 60s were widely circulated during the primaries...why is it weird he comes to mind first?

 

[Payday23]

I agree lowkey, or at the very least the Senate needs an age limit.

Every position in government should

 

[Payday23]

bernie is the definition of a careerist politician. his good intentions dont negate what hes added to the problem

we need 18 year term limits for the house and senate. im fine with people seeking the stability, and the bernies of the world being in there for 18 years. i think 18 would have a chance of passing but get rid of these fukkin 80 year olds

18 years ?

There should be 2 6 year terms and that's it. Also there needs to be a major overhaul of campaign finance laws. Get Dark money out of politics and reign in lobbying

 

[Paper Boi]

i don't think it's bad, i don't think it should be as profitable is it is though.

you should not be getting rich off being a politician.

take money out of politics.

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

i don't think it's bad, i don't think it should be as profitable is it is though.

you should not be getting rich off being a politician.

take money out of politics.

Thats also another problem. We got legal bribery going on.

 

[Paper Boi]

Thats also another problem. We got legal bribery going on.

100% and in any other industry it's pretty much illegal.


shyt in other countries we don't like then we'll consider it corruption, but in america nah we wide open for business.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

He's the most popular politician... and pictures of him marching in the 60s were widely circulated during the primaries...why is it weird he comes to mind first?

Because if you actually read what I said in the OP, he is the antithesis of what I described.

 

[NZA]

im fine with career politicians but i prefer the ones who have a bailiwick. the ones like sinema seem to not actually have any issue that interests them.

i see the merits of age limits but ultimately i dont think the logic holds up to scrutiny. there are too many cases of old people who are sharp enough to keep working and younger people who are more corrupt and out of touch. i do think the public should avoid electing extremely old people without taking a look at their mental acuity and i do believe all races with challengers should require at least one debate.

i do support term limits

 

[the cac mamba]

18 years ?

There should be 2 6 year terms and that's it. Also there needs to be a major overhaul of campaign finance laws. Get Dark money out of politics and reign in lobbying

id be fine with 18 year term limits the worst/problem offenders have all been there for 30+ years