Canadian province considering having gender neutral birth certificates

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That's nice...still don't care

You can be a bytch all you want, but nobody believes that you don't care

You're relying purely on emotion to construct a point and yet have the nerve to suggest that I'm not sharp enough. Leave your emotions at the door, you're a grown man, this isn't very masculine of you.

Yea you're clearly a fukking idiot. Trolling isn't going to really change that. There's nothing emotional about anything that I've said. It's basic logic and common sense.

I'm going to break this down again:
Gender, as we refer to it, is cultural, Sex is biological. (but even then we could get into how sex isn't necessarily binary either, but I don't wish to confuse you further)

You're repeating the same shyt over and over. We have already established that society now draws a line between gender and sex. The point was that it hasn't always been like this in western society. This is why there is this push from liberals to change societal norms regarding language and customs in addition to laws. The reason that Canada is changing their birth certificates to gender neutral is because this idea that gender is this social construct that is basically a person's prerogative has not always been accepted. The reason that a person's gender always coincided with their sex on birth certificates is because they were considered the same. Did your mother raise you with the option to choose whether you wanted to be a boy or girl? Ok then. Who told you that gender is different from sex? Some white liberal with an agenda taught you to believe that, that's who. You just don't want to admit it so you dodge the question.

Okay, so those men in wigs wore wigs because it was perceived as masculine at the time period, Yes? They weren't trying to be women, that is correct.

And that's exactly the point that I'm making. What is considered Masculine and Feminine is subject to change and that's objectively true. Gender is essentially how people observe things such as masculinity and femininity.

This is why I called you an idiot. You've confused yourself. The men in the pics that you posted were not transgender. Therefore you didn't make or support a valid point.

This isn't about masculinity and femininity this is about gender. The idea that "gender is essentially how people observe things such as masculinity and femininity" is some fairly new shyt that liberals have started pushing over the last generation or so. Before this liberal alternative lifestyle agenda though, your gender coincided with your sex.

You can be a masculine female or a feminine male. The state of being masculine doesn't automatically make a person a boy and a person being feminine doesn't make that person a girl. Again, that directly contradicts the idea that gender is socially constructed.

Okay, so now that we've established that gender is largely subjective, well then wouldn't it make sense that some people may identify as different genders than their biological sex?

The only thing that has been established is that the idea that gender is subjective has just started being accepted relatively recently. 20 years ago, if you went as a male went around calling yourself a girl/woman you'd be looked at as crazy and written off as someone not to be taken seriously. The fact that you can't admit that is a testament to how dishonest people on your side of the issue are. Liberals are completely full of shyt.

 

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I'm glad you qualified that. So what does this prove exactly? That because this trans shyt existed in other societies that we should accept it now? How long has female circumcision existed in Africa? Does that the acceptance of it in Africa mean that we should accept it now? This isn't an argument dude.
Allowing them to pretend to be another gender isn't helping them you're just going along with their delusion. You're not helping Bruce Jenner by calling him Caitlin pretending that he's a woman. You're just going along with his bullshyt.

The harm is in the social engineering that has made people accept and even promote this to a certain degree. Individual people can do whatever they want and I don't advocate that being a transsexual should be illegal. However, the transgender shyt goes too far because it requires everybody to accept/acknowledge it. Being transgender is not just about you as an individual. Being transgender is only valid if others buy into it. I shouldn't have to pretend as if a male is a woman simply because he wants to be a woman. You may not have a problem compromising yourself in that way, but I do. I stand in truth.

I asked you who taught you to believe this bullshyt. Your momma didn't raise you with the option of being a boy or a girl. You didn't start believing this bullshyt until someone put it in your head. Do you even know when that first happened?

I explain why it's harmful in the post above. It's social engineering. Sex/gender didn't become mutually exclusive in this society until the last 20-25 years.

 

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You can be a bytch all you want, but nobody believes that you don't care
Yea you're clearly a fukking idiot. Trolling isn't going to really change that. There's nothing emotional about anything that I've said. It's basic logic and common sense.

You're repeating the same shyt over and over. We have already established that society now draws a line between gender and sex. The point was that it hasn't always been like this in western society. This is why there is this push from liberals to change societal norms regarding language and customs in addition to laws. The reason that Canada is changing their birth certificates to gender neutral is because this idea that gender is this social construct that is basically a person's prerogative has not always been accepted. The reason that a person's gender always coincided with their sex on birth certificates is because they were considered the same. Did your mother raise you with the option to choose whether you wanted to be a boy or girl? Ok then. Who told you that gender is different from sex? Some white liberal with an agenda taught you to believe that, that's who. You just don't want to admit it so you dodge the question.

This is why I called you an idiot. You've confused yourself. The men in the pics that you posted were not transgender. Therefore you didn't make or support a valid point.

This isn't about masculinity and femininity this is about gender. The idea that "gender is essentially how people observe things such as masculinity and femininity" is some fairly new shyt that liberals have started pushing over the last generation or so. Before this liberal alternative lifestyle agenda though, your gender coincided with your sex.

You can be a masculine female or a feminine male. The state of being masculine doesn't automatically make a person a boy and a person being feminine doesn't make that person a girl. Again, that directly contradicts the idea that gender is socially constructed.

The only thing that has been established is that the idea that gender is subjective has just started being accepted relatively recently. 20 years ago, if you went as a male went around calling yourself a girl/woman you'd be looked at as crazy and written off as someone not to be taken seriously. The fact that you can't admit that is a testament to how dishonest people on your side of the issue are. Liberals are completely full of shyt.

 

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As long as a teacher or a physician doesnt whisper in a young child's ear that maybe he/she really isnt the gender they think they are, I dont give a fukk.

 

[Jimi Swagger]

Gender-neutral birth certificate approved in California

California has become the first state to allow another gender designation on birth certificates: non-binary.

Governor Jerry Brown’s signed the bill that will take effect next year, The Sacramento Bee reported.

SB 179 also allows adults to use a gender marker other than “F” or “M” on their driver’s license. California is now only the second state to allow gender-neutral licenses. Oregon is the only other state to allow it, while Washington, D.C. has permitted non-gender specific licenses, WRC reported.​

 

[The D-List Vet]

Gender-neutral birth certificate approved in California

California has become the first state to allow another gender designation on birth certificates: non-binary.

Governor Jerry Brown’s signed the bill that will take effect next year, The Sacramento Bee reported.

SB 179 also allows adults to use a gender marker other than “F” or “M” on their driver’s license. California is now only the second state to allow gender-neutral licenses. Oregon is the only other state to allow it, while Washington, D.C. has permitted non-gender specific licenses, WRC reported.​

cacs being everything closer to the end.. nothing new

 

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Gender-neutral birth certificate approved in California

California has become the first state to allow another gender designation on birth certificates: non-binary.

Governor Jerry Brown’s signed the bill that will take effect next year, The Sacramento Bee reported.

SB 179 also allows adults to use a gender marker other than “F” or “M” on their driver’s license. California is now only the second state to allow gender-neutral licenses. Oregon is the only other state to allow it, while Washington, D.C. has permitted non-gender specific licenses, WRC reported.​

Bugs Bunny needs to cut off Cali