Capitalism is the root of racism, high key

[DEAD7]

Capitalism being the worldwide system for 500 years doesnt mean we are done and cant do anything else.

Agreed...post scarcity, who knows what kind of system will develop.

 

[Genos]

Agreed...post scarcity, who knows what kind of system will develop.

Personally I think we are coming up on a manufacturing revolution when you combine VR/AR environment scanning and 3d printing. It's going to be piracy like people have never seen before, of real world items.

 

[sfgiants]

From what I understand its an ongoing debate... I honestly don't know enough to say.
Whats clear though is the racism was again state sanctioned and enforced. Not a product of the market.



The Debate[edit]

A Cuban man of color teaching an Afro-Cuban dance.

There is heavy debate today on how the 1959 revolution impacted race relations on the island. Overall, the debate of racism in Cuba typically takes one of two extremes. Either the revolution ended racism, or it exacerbated or even created racial tension on the island.[13] Many scholars of race in Cuba take a far more qualifying position that while the revolution helped Afro-Cubans, it also halted any further racial progress beyond institutionalization.

The Revolution Ended Racism[edit]
Typically the proponents of the elimination of racism position are close to the revolutionary government, supportive of the revolution in total, and/or come from an older generation of Cubans that are more familiar with pre-revolutionary racism.[2][18] They argue that the dismantling of economic class through socialism destroyed the material perpetuation of racism.[19] In 1966, Castro himself said that, “Discrimination disappeared when class privileges disappeared."[7] Castro also often compared the anti-racism of Cuba to the United States' segregation, and labeled Cuba as a "Afro-Latin" nation when justifying anti-imperial support to liberation fronts in Africa.[2]

Many[who?] who argue that Cuba is not racist base their claims on the idea of Latin American Exceptionalism. According to this argument, a social history of intermarriage and mixing of the races is unique to Latin America. The large mestizo populations that result from high levels of interracial union common to the region are often linked to racial democracy. For many Cubans this translates into an argument of "racial harmony," often referred to as racial democracy. According to Mark Q. Sawyer, in the case of Cuba, ideas of Latin American Exceptionalism have delayed the progress of true racial harmony.[20]

The Revolution Silenced Cubans of Color[edit]
While many opponents of the revolution, such as Cuban emigrants, argue that Castro created race problems on the island, the most common claim for the exacerbation of racism is the revolution's inability to accept Afro-Cubans who want to claim a black identity.[19] After 1961, it was simply taboo to talk about race at all.[12] Antiracist Cuban activists who rejected a raceless approach and wanted to show pride in their blackness such as Walterio Carbonell and Juan René Betancourt in the 1960's, were punished with exile or imprisonment.[2][12]

Esteban Morales Domínguez, a professor in the University of Havana, believes that "the absence of the debate on the racial problem already threatens {...} the revolution's social project."[21] Carlos Moore, who has written extensively on the issue, says that "there is an unstated threat, blacks in Cuba know that whenever you raise race in Cuba, you go to jail. Therefore the struggle in Cuba is different. There cannot be a civil rights movement. You will have instantly 10,000 black people dead."[21] He says that a new generation of black Cubans are looking at politics in another way.[21] Cuban rap groups of today are fighting against this censorship; Hermanos de Causa explains the problem best by saying, "Don’t you tell me that there isn’t any [racism], because I have seen it/ don’t tell me that it doesn’t exist, because I have lived it."[22]

Here I’ll help:
Did the revolutionaries who came to power in Cuba after the revolution improve or worsen the condition of afro cubans in Cuba
it’s a simple answer y or n

spoiler: in ~50 years the revolution did more for afro cubans than the previous 4-500 years of colonialism and US backed dictatorship.

in short, yes. Wikipedia copy and pastes notwithstanding. your original post is addressed directly and explicitly.

 

[horizon]

Capitalism is black people's only hope from total destruction

This is what it looks like when they've completely programmed you

 

[ROFL_GUY]

The cape for Communism and Socialism on this site is


To think all economic systems aren't based in racism is just

The US$ only has value due to its worldwide acceptance as THE only currency used to buy oil..

Petro$$(tesla stock) is a hint

China/yuan is now in the basket of currencies in the IMF

Death of the USA corp is happening everyday with the shift to the east ..

 

[Diondon]

This is what it looks like when they've completely programmed you

lol ok
Think that under any system cacs don't hate your black ass

 

[JadeB]

lol ok
Think that under any system cacs don't hate your black ass

Root of racism. Obviously racism evolved to be a monster of its own but the beginnings of it are heavily tied to the concept of making as much money as possible and doing terrible things and creating justifications for those terrible things to make money.

 

[Chip Skylark]

The cape for Communism and Socialism on this site is


To think all economic systems aren't based in racism is just

This!!!!

It’s getting tiring

 

[Insensitive]

Africans were sold to feudalistic plantation owners in the name of making money

A civil war was fought in which up to a million lives were lost in the name of making money

Jim Crow laws were passed to imprison and heavily fine black people in the name of making money

Black people were systematically killed to get rid of competition in the name of making money


Police are called to ritzy stores to keep poor Black folks from visiting in the name of making money

The very fact America doesn't have universal healthcare, free or low cost college, good maternity/paternity systems, higher minimum wage, more vacation time in the name of making money


this BS economic system dd not just ruin the United States but it also hugely affected much of the world. Just look at the hacienda system in Latin America and colonialism in Africa and Asia and the extermination of idigenous peoples all over


If you are a POC and a full blown capitalist, in my opinion, you are a c00n

If we're keeping it G, it's not the ROOT but it's certainly apart of the problem.
An example of racism and capitalism being distinct things is for example a capitalist
choosing primarily white workers to enrich himself and in turn enrich them.

That's where it's beyond just capitalism, it's purposely cutting out a group from participating
based on nothing more than their skin color.


Capitalism is definitely shytty though full stop.
Anyone black riding Capitalism's meat, doesn't realize they're literally getting screwed because of it.

 

[JadeB]

Bump

 

[DEAD7]

Bump

 

[Khadafi1982]

Africans were sold to feudalistic plantation owners in the name of making money

A civil war was fought in which up to a million lives were lost in the name of making money

Jim Crow laws were passed to imprison and heavily fine black people in the name of making money

Black people were systematically killed to get rid of competition in the name of making money


Police are called to ritzy stores to keep poor Black folks from visiting in the name of making money

The very fact America doesn't have universal healthcare, free or low cost college, good maternity/paternity systems, higher minimum wage, more vacation time in the name of making money


this BS economic system dd not just ruin the United States but it also hugely affected much of the world. Just look at the hacienda system in Latin America and colonialism in Africa and Asia and the extermination of idigenous peoples all over


If you are a POC and a full blown capitalist, in my opinion, you are a c00n

I am a full blown capitalist.
No! Slavery existed way before capitalism. Africans used to have slaves, romans had slaves, Arabs had slaves. The system called capitalism wasn't in place yet. Making a profit has been done for ages, but it is not capitalism.
Here are the essential characteristics of capitalism

1. Private property rights and the private ownership of business enterprise
2. The market system
3. The social separation of ownership and work
4. The profit motive
5. The growth imperative

Now these characteristics can be applied to a master/slave system, however, the last three criteria required a subsets of human action principles.
1. Unease or dissatisfaction with the present state of affairs
2. A vision of a better state
3. Belief that they can reach the better state

This is where innovation and inventions are created. For the slaves, due to their condition, there is no self-interest to do this. There human actions are constrained due to slavery.
Making a profit is the result of efficiencies (innovation and economy of scale) that an organization created. If no efficiencies were created, those flat screens TV will still cost 15K today.
It is the best sytem to allocate scare resources that have alternative use that is dictated by market demand.
As they say "When the russian nails producers were rewarded by weight, they produced the biggest nails while small nails were scare".
Also the governement is the only one that could manage externalities with laws. Capitalism has problems of course, but to me it is the best system.
The only thing I agree with you is that Americans should have decent healthcare and decent education for low cost.

 

[PhillyzFinest]

This is an excellent discussion. I strongly recommend the following for reference:

This book really does a great job in breaking down the concept of money and how it is viewed from a Eurocentric viewpoint.

Another great book detailing WHY some countries do well financially vs others.


This will explain how the US money system works.

Unless brehs have reference points of where they're getting their ideas from, I'm really not interested TBH.

Anyway, capitalism is IMO a byproduct of imperialism. Where racism fits it is basically a style or a strategy to get there. You can be racist, classist, tribal, moral, etc. Anything to excuse the forceful actions to keep a group of people under someone else.

Capitalism is simple to me. You need a retail and a wholesale. Gotta keep something at $5 to sell it for $10.

Black people all across the world; their land, their ideas, their bodies and their labor... it's supposed to be the wholesale for the rest of the world's retail.

The retail world (The West) wants oil, copper, coltan, chocolate and human labor really cheap. It's why you can get kids mining in caves in the Congo and why you can push old black women out of urban neighborhoods. It's all about feeding the beast that is Capitalism.

There are better systems out there but greedy people who are addicted to the power won't let it go.

 

[Johnny Kilroy]

Racism stems from insecurity.

Chattel slavery in America was based on racism.

Capitalism is matured slavery.



In conclusion, capitalism stems from insecurity and that makes perfect sense. When a person adopts a scarcity mindset, the thought process is to hoard as much as possible for fear of resources running out.

 

[GrindtooFilthy]

Extremely false racism is just the by product, you’ve never met a white leftist with a Jesus savior complex thinking black/poc can’t do anything by themselves? That’s my friend is a form of racism and We saw with the dnc especially Biden/sanders