cavs gonna be 12-0 going into the finals.
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Gil Scott-Heroin
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Unless you're the gawd @ Gil Scott-Heroin (who sadly is no longer with us). He was the GOAT at prediction threads. 100% record.Never make prediction threads on the coli
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The new #12 is bold and black. Browns are back š
What happened to @GIL Scott??
Gil Scott-Heroin
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Last time someone heard from him he was in Cuba with 'Pac.
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Always looking for an argumentCavs are the better team, yet it still doesn't take away from how good the Raptors are though. Which you and 90% of the board seem to have no clue about.
I didnt say any of that about the Raptors. They've been up and down in these playoffs and nothing about the Cavs' 10-0 start suggested they would come out and shyt the bed all the sudden but thats what happened. 
And....those were the only 10 that he beat in all of 13 of his non-Shaq years....which makes him as bad or worse as anyone on that list.
Kobe: 10 fifty-win teams in 13 non-Shaq years
Magic: 10 fifty-win teams in 12 years
Bird: 13 fifty-win teams in 13 years
Lebron: 12-13 fifty-win teams in 13 years
Duncan: 20 fifty-win teams in 19 years
Jordan: 20 fifty-win teams in 15 years
And win-wise those teams Kobe beat were weak as hell.
2008: 50, 54, and 56 win teams
2009: 53, 54, and 59 win teams
2010: 50, 50, 53, and 54 win teams
That's why this stat is so stupid. Post-Shaq Kobe is getting 3 50-win teams that barely make the cutoff, and almost ALL the teams he beat are 54 wins or lower.
Are we really going to claim that beating the Jazz and the Nuggets and the Rockets in 2008-2010 was bigger than beating the Celtics and Pacers and Bulls in 2011-2014, just because some of those WC teams had 50 wins while some of those EC teams had 48-49 wins?
Other than those three years, Kobe's teams never once beat a 50-win team in the 13 seasons that he played without Shaq.
I actually have him down for two - the 2008 56-win Spurs (though Ginobli was hurt) and the 2009 59-win Magic.
That's it.
Kobe's teams managed to beat TWO 55-win teams and ZERO 60-win teams in all 13 years that he played without Shaq.
Meanwhile, Lebron's teams took out the 56-win 2011 Celtics, the 62-win 2011 Bulls, the 58-win 2012 Thunder (pro-rated), the 56-win 2013 Pacers, the 62-win 2013 Spurs, the 56-win 2014 Pacers, the 60-win 2015 Hawks, and (soon) the 56-win 2016 Raptors.
That's EIGHT 55-win teams, and THREE sixty-win teams, to Kobe's 2 and 0.
But really, the true measure of greatness is how many 50 to 54-win teams your team has beat.
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All that, and still, 5-2>>>>>2-4.And....those were the only 10 that he beat in all of 13 of his non-Shaq years....which makes him as bad or worse as anyone on that list.
Kobe: 10 fifty-win teams in 13 non-Shaq years
Magic: 10 fifty-win teams in 12 years
Bird: 13 fifty-win teams in 13 years
Lebron: 12-13 fifty-win teams in 13 years
Duncan: 20 fifty-win teams in 19 years
Jordan: 20 fifty-win teams in 15 years
And win-wise those teams Kobe beat were weak as hell.
2008: 50, 54, and 56 win teams
2009: 53, 54, and 59 win teams
2010: 50, 50, 53, and 54 win teams
That's why this stat is so stupid. Post-Shaq Kobe is getting 3 50-win teams that barely make the cutoff, and almost ALL the teams he beat are 54 wins or lower.
Are we really going to claim that beating the Jazz and the Nuggets and the Rockets in 2008-2010 was bigger than beating the Celtics and Pacers and Bulls in 2011-2014, just because some of those WC teams had 50 wins while some of those EC teams had 48-49 wins?
Other than those three years, Kobe's teams never once beat a 50-win team in the 13 seasons that he played without Shaq.
I actually have him down for two - the 2008 56-win Spurs (though Ginobli was hurt) and the 2009 59-win Magic.
That's it.
Kobe's teams managed to beat TWO 55-win teams and ZERO 60-win teams in all 13 years that he played without Shaq.
Meanwhile, Lebron's teams took out the 56-win 2011 Celtics, the 62-win 2011 Bulls, the 58-win 2012 Thunder (pro-rated), the 56-win 2013 Pacers, the 62-win 2013 Spurs, the 56-win 2014 Pacers, the 60-win 2015 Hawks, and (soon) the 56-win 2016 Raptors.
That's EIGHT 55-win teams, and THREE sixty-win teams, to Kobe's 2 and 0.
But really, the true measure of greatness is how many 50 to 54-win teams your team has beat.
Because, in the moronic world of Kobestan, losing in the first round or missing the playoffs altogether is better than dragging an inferior team to the championship round.
And I see we're still counting Shaq years without context. So Kobe < Pippen still, I'm sure?
Feel like there a Bengals first round playoff win thread that didn't go too well 
Ronnie Lott
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Kobes Two Jerseys
8 or 24 best player of the era
And still, being 5-2 in the finals is better than being 2-4. Unless you can explain why its not.Because, in the moronic world of Kobestan, losing in the first round or missing the playoffs altogether is better than dragging an inferior team to the championship round.
And I see we're still counting Shaq years without context. So Kobe < Pippen still, I'm sure?
And still, being 5-2 in the finals is better than being 2-4. Unless you can explain why its not.
So Scottie Pippen is better than Kobe, because 6-0 is better than 5-2?
Oh, I forgot...2nd-fiddle championships don't count unless you're wearing purple and gold.
Out-of-context Finals record is one of the worst things to compare careers on.
John Havlicek, pretty much the Kobe of the 1960s and 1970s, was 8-0 in Finals.
Jerry West was 1-9 in Finals.
Isn't 8-0 better than 1-9?
And they played in the exact same era, often facing each other in the Finals.
Yet there are few people today who would claim that John Havlicek was a greater player than Jerry West.
By your math, Havlicek isn't just better than West, he's better than Wilt, Kareem, Oscar, etc.
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