Cenk Uygur and Tucker Carlson Debate at Politicon

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ranking products based on what they want to sell you is different. that is no different than a grocery store putting certain items on its own display or on the better shelf.

controlling information is different. and just because they aren't the government doesn't mean they should have a responsibility to be transparent about it.

That power that they have over information is extremely powerful.


Google sells information. That is their product.

If you don't like how they distribute their product, don't use their service.
 

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Google sells information. That is their product.

If you don't like how they distribute their product, don't use their service.
Google CONTROLS information.

they should be regulated to ensure fairness for all. Facebook and google have a monoploy, which means they should be held to a higher standard and be transparent.

"don't like their product, don't use it" sounds like something a typical conservative would say.

"If they don't want to serve you because you are gay, then go shop somewhere else'
 

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Google CONTROLS information.

they should be regulated to ensure fairness for all. Facebook and google have a monoploy, which means they should be held to a higher standard and be transparent.

"don't like their product, don't use it" sounds like something a typical conservative would say.

"If they don't want to serve you because you are gay, then go shop somewhere else'


I think google should be nationalized. Along with healthcare.
 

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Net Neutrality isn't the same thing as eliminating hate speech or ordering search results dumbass.
:patrice:

Bruh, just admit you didn’t read any article I’ve posted and keep it moving alright?

Net neutrality is about not letting corporations control what you can do and see on the internet. It’s about keeping it open and free. Google...like time warner or Comcast (for example) are corporations that can control what you see and do on the internet. They need to be transparent.

The basic principles are the same. Now, you are either for it, or you are against it, can’t have it both ways.
 

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:patrice:

Bruh, just admit you didn’t read any article I’ve posted and keep it moving alright?

Net neutrality is about not letting corporations control what you can do and see on the internet. It’s about keeping it open and free. Google...like time warner or Comcast (for example) are corporations that can control what you see and do on the internet. They need to be transparent.

The basic principles are the same. Now, you are either for it, or you are against it, can’t have it both ways.


Net neutrality is about throttling back speeds for smaller websites that can’t pay the ISPs as much.


Come back when google becomes an ISP moron
 

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Net neutrality is about throttling back speeds for smaller websites that can’t pay the ISPs as much.


Come back when google becomes an ISP moron
Net neutrality is about control.

Like I said, the principle is the same. Just because you can’t comprehend that doesn’t mean you need to resort to petty name calling.

Lame
 

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These debates come off more like wwe than an actual debate of ideas.

Each side has its fan boys clapping and cheering after each sentence.

:scust:

Those debates are totally useless.

The people are hustling and stroking their ego at the same time.

It's entertainment at this point.
 
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Good discussion. Nikkas need to throw an iron at that wrinkled azz banner
Both had good points but Tucker is the winner

How do you know if you're dealing with truth....see if your point is still applicable, minus the sensitive subjects
-illegal immigration is inherently damaging, regardless of country
-No country wants a caravan of people to tie up their immigration courts with request for asylum as a tactic to gain entry
-Border.Language.Culture are the basic necessary glue to unite citizens, regardless of country
-Citizens' well being and security is the top priority, regardless of country
-Laws are used to maintain order, control and to build trust among citizens, regardless of country


Other topics....
-illegals aren't paying taxes because you have to have a legit social security to fill out W2 forms. So the "taxes" like sales tax is attributed to them "paying taxes" or when an employer actually provides a W2, the "taxes payed" is done by using a fake or stolen SS# that illegals use to fill out W2. The SS# payroll deductions are placed aside until the correct SS# matches are figured out. By then, this person has committed illegal immigration, false ID, or stolen ID crimes

-Dems are about securing votes as they blindly support illegal immigration because they could easily target the employers but that would mean losing campaign donations
-I agree with Cenk about taking money out of politics but I also agree with Tucker that by doing so doesn't take away from your responiblity to be an informed citizen that knows how to shift through BS

-If the average citizen isn't willing to pay $10 for an apple, then don't make empty demands for livable wages because you're not valuing labor
-If the average citizen is still supporting Google during their work with the Chinese government to create search engine for easy censorship and tracking, then don't complain about censorship and tracking here
-Multiculturalism only works when nested within a sizable and respected root/parent culture, that isn't directly challenged by the sub-cultures

-Corporations has duped folks into believing they are supportive of their social agenda and since folks are geeked into wanting to feel liek they have power, they are quick to embrace the most trivial symbolic gestures by these corporattions as a means to feel good, not to solve a problem
-Dems are doing today what they say others were going to do decades ago, attacking Free speech
-Kaep didn't have the long term agenda to organize, monetize and thus empower his movement to help create change
 

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I keep warning people that immigration is a political hot potato and democrats will lose on this issue unless they take some serious evaluations and criticisms of their policies to heart.

Hate him or love him, Tucker stood his ground on immigration and it was one of the only arguments Cenk looked legitimately weak on and wanted to move on from....
when it comes to illegals, these dudes are more concerned with shilling for the democrats than living in reality. you arent gonna win anyone over in HL :yeshrug: TLR has it right
 

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Net neutrality is about throttling back speeds for smaller websites that can’t pay the ISPs as much.


Come back when google becomes an ISP moron
Aa

Google is already an isp
 
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