Chance The Rapper Source Cover

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The whole plant idea is illogical. What are they planting him for? It sounds to me like a marketing strategy, that yall have chosen to dislike vocally. My whole thing is why does it matter who's pushing this guy, if you like his music? Let's say you're 100% right and he's a plant, now what? Boycott him?

They are planting him for.... success. Isn't that obvious? They think he has the potential to push units and go on big tours.
 

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What? Would you invest in someone you think didn't have any appeal or talent? fukk no. Having money behind you, getting that push by your label/management actually indicates that you do have talent as people with a record of success in the industry are seriously supporting you.

All we are saying - songs with Justin Beiber, tour with Eminem & Source cover are bigger achievements than his popularity would ordinarily garner. And as it's already widely known he got on that tour because of his connections.
All this does is give him avenues to be as big as the people behind him think he will be.
So having a good agent who actually does something for his artist is being an industry plant? And I guess having a wack agent who doesn't do shyt = not industry plant.
The way I understand this vague, stupid ass term 'industry plant' is that you are signed by a label but acting like you are indie. Like Wiz Khalifa, 2 Chainz etc. And even those nikkas grinded alone, hard as fukk even though they actually were signed. They received no support from the labels until they started getting buzz.

How did he get to do a song with Beiber? Beiber is a young kid who likes hiphop and can get whoever he likes.
How did he get on tour with Eminem? He and Eminem share the same booking agent.
Source Cover? Highest reviewed hiphop album/tape of 2013.
Rocket science? no.
 

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An industry plant for me - is someone who is more ubiquitous due to connections rather than genuine popularity but we are lead to believe otherwise. Basically - someone that is being given a significant marketing push. This is normally in the form of pretending to be indie when they are signed but there's other methods. I don't consider this a bad thing, it's just music marketing in 2014. In fact with Chance, it's more like the old school - does his local thing, gets the attention of powerful people who believe he'll be a massive star - they get him all the biggest looks they can.

Justin Beiber can't just get anyone to rap on his records. If he could i'm sure he would've thrown Twist a bone when they were tight.
Eminem? Yeah that's what i'm talking about. There's amazing agents that can't get Chance on tours with fukking Eminem out there too man. It's multiple big wigs messing with Chance heavy.
Source Cover? Since when have magazines like The Source featured on artist on the front cover because of reviews? Same magazine having Wayne/50 on the cover 6 months out of 12 because they were the biggest artists at the time. And even then, the album hasn't been topping end of year review lists. Hip-Hop wise Yeezus and even NWTS consistently rank higher and those artists obviously have more pull. That is the weakest shyt you've said.
 

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All we are saying is - Chance isn't Source Cover popular.

He's not as popular or put in as much work as someone like Wiz when he got the cover.
 

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I thought we all knew what an industry plant is?

Someone that not just labels but those who putting real money into these labels, use to push there bullshyt agenda. To dictate where the sheep keep walking to. I know we have people who don't like to feed into "conspiracies" because they want cold hard facts and shyt like that. They want to physically see in writing, about these facts. But you gotta be hella naive if you think that there isn't people behind these media outlets & things of that nature pushing that bullshyt into these kids to dictate where they want them to go.

Idk why people act like it's not true; when someone is on top of the rap game, people start getting down with their "movement" because they dont wanna be that corny person who isn't down

You got not only kids but grown ass people imitating these people so they can be cool or seen as "down"

Remember when that whole rockstar shyt popped off? :gag:

Or how Drake came in the game and made it softer then baby shyt

Or how Keef blow up and had nikkas on some next level stupidity just so they can be seen as hardcore thugs or what not. Ya think Keef really blew up cuz he was hot like that?? Jojo buzz was a bit bigger in the Chi before he got clapped. It benefits these money hungry muthaphuckas to see kids looking up to these idiots so they can keep putting money in they pockets when they go to jail.


And the ones who don't like that rugged shyt get swept under that feminine bullshyt. Got kids and grown ass men wearing women clothing because it's what's "in"

It benefits these money hungry muthaphuckas too see the youth feminized and too strung out on lean and mollies to stand up for something

I get some people on this board like to go against what the Coli says or what ever but if you can't see what a label plant is then you just don't want to see it.


The first industry plants/ CIA moles were gangsta rappers, though. :mjpls:

How come you never mention that shyt?
 

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I'm not taking it far

Do you know that some of these big labels have money and I mean big money behind prisons that are getting built?

I can't remember where exactly I read it but there was a thread here which was brought from SOHH where someone linked the information.

Anyways these label heads are sometimes owners of these private prisons.

They would have meetings with artist where they would try to figure out how to make prison seem like the place to be

Yup gangsta rap duped a generation of Gen X and some of Gen Y into thinking that prison was more popping that college. Beans and them nikkas worshipped the shyt outta that place, but no one dare would speak up on street rappers of the older days being CIA moles. :mjpls:
 

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I'm out here in the Chicagoland area and the dude doesn't even get played on local radio.
 

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I'm not taking it far

Do you know that some of these big labels have money and I mean big money behind prisons that are getting built?

I can't remember where exactly I read it but there was a thread here which was brought from SOHH where someone linked the information.

Anyways these label heads are sometimes owners of these private prisons.

They would have meetings with artist where they would try to figure out how to make prison seem like the place to be

That' not what's exactly goin' on.

It's the fact a lot of media conglomerates have capital that the private prison industry benefits.

It creates a dangerous situation, when, these same media giants are able to glamorize criminal activity.

Label heads sitting down and tellin' rappers "make prison seem like the place to be" is fan-fiction.

We don't have proof that the state and the private prison system is trying to cheat people into jail, but, we do have proof that the states has capacity standards/requirements for some of these private prisons that go up.
 
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