Charlamagne: Ether was corny

[big bun]

how do u know that?

How did I know Jigs cared about being called ugly, gay and a camel? I think that was pretty obvious my nig.

 

[JuvenileHell]

Am I the only ome that thinks the Stillatic freestyle is the best joint in this whole battle?

 

[FTBS]

come on man u gonna tell me nas didnt do anything to stillmatic in those 3 months?

You gonna tell me he hadn't done anything prior to those three months?

 

[the cac mamba]

Illimatic, I Am, and Nastrodamus are three of the worst albums ever put out regardless of genre. IWW was hot.

those are better than any 3 lupe albums put together

 

[Art Barr]

I haven't watched yet, but before I do. I think most people that were there, that aren't a stan for either side would say...

Takeover is the better song.
Ether is the better overall diss.

Takeover's beat is >>> Ether's beat. Not even close. Takeover isn't even a Nas diss. It's got 4 verses with one verse at Nas. Both songs are about 5 mins, and all of Ether is going at at Jay. Jay even knows he lost that battle, as evident by his reaction the next day with Angie Martinez

"Wow. Wow. That was uneasy. Very vulgar."

But which song would I want to listen to? Takeover. It's a better song. Some people might not get the difference in what I'm saying, but Takeover is the better overall song, and musically it's just better. It's got a song structure, with a chorus, verses, etc. Ether has a chorus too, but it's most Nas just blacking out.

So yeah. Again. Ether = better diss. Takeover = better song.

it is not a better song.
ether is the better song, because it actually is more versatile to everyone in the listeners spectrum as far as rap listeners, go.
as, ether also won because it connected with audiences out of ny and all over.
the reason why jay lost is because when it called for him to get work from his excellent past large crop of higher drawing producers for a more versatile beat.
he kept it far and away from accessible to the people who he had as fans out of ny. When, his career was made off of being the guy trying to on any and everything like juvenile's ha and failing to big pimp'n.
the reason why bp is erroneously rated by vibe.
is bp, stuck to just traditional ny sound people begged jay to make. When, previously he was not using his old guard of producers.
plus, just made an entirely larger selling west coast directed audience on roc la.
so, jay shot himself in the foot, trying to use a sound.
he also, previously condemned as dated.
then, come to find out he needed those different types of beats to blow.
yet, when the battle starts.
this, nikka is back on trying to appease only one type of fan.
whereas nas, went full into the mode of the guy who went out his comfort zone on IWW.
then, effectively bridged the gap in one major label try, and still to this day.
after illmatic, ether is his best lone submission in the pop realm.
he allowed nikkaz to go direction and draw wise while selling out.
yet, jay who at this time was supposed to be the master of versatility.
is rocking over samples and not showing any versatility, nor ferocity.
while, nas is spitting the meanest he ever spit, after he sold out on a gateway record like ether in a battle.
nas, beat jay at his own gamesmanship, to draw for his whole career in one record.
plus, nas's previous disses with fatjoe and prodigy were better and over sampled breaks/instrumentals

so, all the homework jay did sounded dumb as hell.
once, nas served his ass on ether.
As, ether is nas's answer to jay, and even critics/fans all in one of the most potent battle records, ever.
plus, jay does not know how to battle.cause he let nas build up ink, on how to diss him.
By letting the prodigy/fatjoe/nas previous disses go on for so long.


Art Barr

 

[The Dust King]

Facts are highlighted in purple; Jokes in red

Brace yourself for the main event
Y'all impatiently waiting
It's like an AIDS test, what's the results?
Not positive, who's the best? Pac, Nas and Big
Ain't no best, East, West, North, South, flossed out, greedy
I embrace y'all with napalm
Blows up, no guts, left chest, face gone
How could Nas be garbage?
Semi-autos at your cartilage
Burner at the side of your dome, come outta my throne
I got this, locked since '9-1
I am the truest, name a rapper that I ain't influenced
Gave y'all chapters but now I keep my eyes on the Judas
With Hawaiian Sophie fame, kept my name in his music
Check it

[Chorus]

[talking]
Ay yo, pass me the weed, pour my ashes out on these nikkas man (no doubt)
Ay, y'all fakkits, y'all kneel and kiss the fukking ring

[Chorus]

I've been fukked over, left for dead, dissed and forgotten
Luck ran out, they hoped that I'd be gone, stiff and rotten
Y'all just piss on me, shyt on me, spit on my grave (uh)
Talk about me, laugh behind my back but in my face
Y'all some "well wishers," friendly acting, envy hiding snakes
With your hands out for my money, man, how much can I take?
When these streets keep calling, heard it when I was sleep
That this Gay-Z and Cockafella Records wanted beef
Started cocking up my weapon, slowly loading up this ammo
To explode it on a camel, and his soldiers, I can handle
This for dolo and it's manuscript, just sound stupid
When KRS already made an album called Blueprint
First, Biggie's ya man, then you got the nerve to say that you better than Big
dikk sucking lips, why not you let the late, great veteran live

[talking]
(I...will...not...lose)
"God's son" across the belly, I prove you lost already
The king is back, where my crown at?
(Ill...will) Ill Will rest in peace, let's do it nikkas

[Chorus]

Y'all nikkas deal with emotions like bytches
What's sad is I love you 'cause you're my brother
You traded your soul for riches
My child, I've watched you grow up to be famous
And now I smile like a proud dad, watching his only son that made it
You seem to be only concerned with dissing women
Were you abused as a child, scared to smile, they called you ugly?
Well life is hard, hug me, don't reject me
Or make records to disrespect me, blatent or indirectly
In '88 you was getting chased through your building
Calling my crib and I ain't even give you my numbers
All I did was gave you a style for you to run with
Smiling in my face, glad to break bread with the god
Wearing Jaz chains, no tecs, no cash, no cars
No jail bars Jigga, no pies, no case
Just Hawaiian shirts, hanging with little Chase
You a fan, a phony, a fake, a p*ssy, a Stan
I still whip your ass, you thirty-six in a karate class
You Tae-bo hoe, tryna' work it out, you tryna' get brolic?
Ask me if I'm tryna' kick knowledge
Nah, I'm tryna' kick the shyt you need to learn though
That ether, that shyt that make your soul burn slow
Is he Dame Diddy, Dame Daddy or Dame Dummy?
Oh, I get it, you Biggie and he's Puffy
Rockefeller died of AIDS, that was the end of his chapter
And that's the guy y'all chose to name your company after?
Put it together, I rock hoes, y'all rock fellas
And now y'all try to take my spot, fellas?
Philly's hot rock fellas, put you in a dry spot, fellas
In a pine box with nine shots from my glock, fellas
Foxy got you hot 'cause you kept your face in her puss
What you think, you getting girls now 'cause of your looks?
Ne-gro please
You no mustache having, with whiskers like a rat
Compared to Beans you wack
And your man stabbed Un and made you take the blame
You ass, went from Jaz to hanging with Caine, to Herb, to Big
And, Eminem murdered you on your own shyt
You a dikk-riding fakkit, you love the attention
Queens nikkas run you nikkas, ask Russell Simmons
Ha, R-O-C get gunned up and clapped quick
J.J. Evans get gunned up and clapped quick
Your whole damn record label gunned up and clapped quick
Shawn Carter to Jay-Z, damn you on Jaz dikk
So little shorty's getting gunned up and clapped quick
How much of Biggie's rhymes is gonna come out your fat lips?
Wanted to be on every last one of my classics
You pop shyt, apologize, nikka, just ask Kiss




I know you missin all the - FAAAAAAAME!
But along with celebrity comes bout seventy shots to your brain
nikka; you a - LAAAAAAAME!
Youse the faq model for Karl Kani/Esco ads
Went from, Nasty Nas to Esco's trash
Had a spark when you started but now you're just garbage
Fell from top ten to not mentioned at all
to your bodyguard's "Oochie Wally" verse better than yours
Matter fact you had the worst flow on the whole fukkin song
but I know - the sun don't shine, then son don't shine
That's why your - LAAAAAAAME! - career come to a end
There's only so long fake thugs can pretend
nikka; you ain't live it you witnessed it from your folks pad
You scribbled in your notepad and created your life
I showed you your first tec on tour with Large Professor
(Me, that's who!) Then I heard your album bout your tec on your dresser
So yeah I sampled your voice, you was usin it wrong
You made it a hot line, I made it a hot song
And you ain't get a corn nikka you was gettin fukked and
I know who I paid God, Serchlite Publishing
Use your - BRAAAAAAAIN! You said you been in this ten
I've been in it five - smarten up Nas
Four albums in ten years nikka? I could divide
That's one every let's say two, two of them shyts was due
One was - NAHHH, the other was "Illmatic"
That's a one hot album every ten year average
And that's so - LAAAAAAAME! nikka switch up your flow
Your shyt is garbage, but you try and kick knowledge?
(Get the fukk outta here) You nikkaz gon' learn to respect the king
Don't be the next contestant on that Summer Jam screen
Because you know who (who) did you know what (what)
with you know who (yeah) but just keep that between me and you for now


Y'all from a far threw thoughts my way
What you thought, I would not have nothin' to say? Nope
Y'all fell into the booby trap
I set the trap just to see dude react, an' now

An' now you'se can't leave
You opened the door, God, I'm at you annually
An' I'm sorry Miss Rosie Perez
I call a spade a spade, it just is what it is

But you can't give cred to anythin' dude says
Same dude to give you ice an' you owe him some head
Shorty, it's time to wake up the dead
You sound a little naive in them articles that I read

H.O.V.A.
The blueprint 2, baby, on the way
H.O.V.A.
I got my mojo back, baby, oh, behave

H.O.V.A.
The blueprint 2, baby, on the way
H.O.V.A.
I got my mojo back, baby, oh, behave

Can't y'all see that he's fake? The rap version of TD Jakes
Prophesizin' on your CDs an' tapes
Won't break you a crumb of the little bit that he makes
An' this is with whom you want to place your faith?

I put dollars on mine, ask Columbine
When the Twin Towers dropped, I was the first in line
Donatin' proceeds off every ticket sold
When I was out on the road, that's how you judge Hov, no?

Ain't I supposed to be absorbed myself?
Every time there's a tragedy, I'm the first one to help
They call me this misogynist, but they don't call me the dude
To take his dollars to give gifts at the projects

These dudes is all politics, depositin' checks
They put in they pocket, all you get in return is a lotta lip
An' y'all buy the shyt, caught up in the hype
'Cause the nikka wear a coofie, it don't mean that he bright

'Cause you don't understand him, it don't mean that he nice
It just means you don't understand all the bullshyt that he write
Is it 'Oochie Wally Wally' or is it 'One Mic'?
Is it 'Black Girl Lost' or shorty owe you for ice?

I've been real all my life, they confuse it with conceit
Since I will not lose, they try to help him cheat
But I will not lose, for even in defeat
There's a valuable lesson learned, so it evens it up for me

When the grass is cut, the snakes will show
I gotta thank the little homie Nas for that though
Savin' me the hassle of speakin' to half of these a$$holes
An' I'm a let karma catch up to Jaz O, whoa

See I'm back before you had a chance to miss me
My mama can't save you this time, nikkas is history
Who you know flow vicious as me?
Yet so religiously, that's why they call me Hov

I get the spoils 'cause the victor is me
You're an actor, you're not who you're depicted to be
The street dreamin', all y'all nikkas livin' through me
I gave you life when nikkas was forgettin' you emcee

I'm a legend, you should take a picture with me
You should be happy to be in my presence, I should charge you a fee
I'm Big Dog, Glenn Rob, listen, God, you a flea
An' the little homey Jungle is a garden to me

What's the problem B? You not as hard as me
nikka hard as we, nikka, ROC, nikka
That's why they follow me
They feel my pain an' my agony, nikka

I won't rest till you on one knee
You want war then it's war's gonna be, nikka
Until you on one knee
You want war then it's war's gonna be, nikka

I got myself a gun
Brooklyn, stand up
I got myself a gun
But really, I dont need tha heat
Ya heart pump project kool-aid(ya sweet)
I aint gotta two-way you gays
This is not beef
This is rap hommie
I dont have a scratch on me
You feel Jay soft
Rip jay off
Damn I'm only worth over a hundred million
Look
I got beef with like a hundred children
nikkaz with pink suits
Tryin to get cute
You a little outta line hommie
Dont let the 9 hommie
Put ya out ya mind hommie
bytch keep tryin hommie
Kick yo little lies
I kick my real facts
Like u sneakin out tha back
At tha Source Soundlab(uh)
We wasnt chasin you
We had a tape and too
We came through to do our little one, two thang
It wasnt a rockafella come through thing
If it was on like that
Why would I come through Queens
Yo, ya'll Queens nikka know how I do
I got mo' shooters in Queens Bridge than u
nikkaz'll(nikkaz will) tie you up on the Colloseum roof
And open beer bottles off ya boy's chipped tooth
Look Here,

[Chorus:]
I got myself a gun,Uh Ohhhh!
Yea, I got myself a gun

[Verse 2:]
Listen
I'm tha J, tha A, to the fukk this broad
This nikka never sold asprin
How u escobar?
Had to buy you're chain back tha last time u got robbed
The nerve of this coward nikka....(Oh My God)
And all rap rumors are induendo
I bring them to you live
Lift up ya window
Let tha public begin to see your dirty laundry
Ya'll dont want me to continue(Oh!)
Super Ugly

[Jay-Z Laughing]
[Nas Voice:]
I dont give a fukk

All I really know is that yo hoe wants to be with me
She aint playin
Believe what I'm sayin

[Verse 3:]
Me and tha boy A.I. got more in Common than just ballin and rhymin
Get It?
More in Carmen
I came in ya Bentley backseat
Skeeted in Jeep
Left condoms in tha baby seat
Here nikka
Tha gloves is off
The love is done
Its whateva, wheneva, howeva
nikka "1"
And since you infatuated with sayin tha gay shyt
Yes u was kissin my dikk when u was kissin that bytch
Crazy bytch
You thought I was boning Ranette
You calling Carm' a hundred times I was boning her neck
You got a baby by that broad
You cant disown her yet
When does ya lies end?
When does the truth begin?
When does reality set it?
Or does it not matter
Gotta hurt that I'm ya baby mama's favorite rapper
And ask your current girl
She know whats up
Holla at a real nikka[/QUOTE]

@Sciz
@iliketurtles
@beanz
@Asantehene
@Black_Jesus


@Ego Eimis
@I.AM.PIFF
@puppetmaster
@The Ruler 09
@god shamgod
@ML29
@gator_king
@Cold Blooded
@Art Barr
@jeff99tips
@NoHalfWay
@biscuitsnbangers
@JuvenileHell
@Danie84
@Milk N Cookies
@Ill Clinton
@FreshAIG
@NV-ME
@madness
@stoplurkinho @keon
@IronFist

 

[SixxiS]

jays opinion of nas' albums - not a fact
top 10 to not mentioned at all - not a fact
you a faq model for karl kani - but nas was sayin gay jokes?
your bodyguards verse better than you - not a fact
the first tec line, the world is yours line -
ive been in it 5 years - a blatant lie
someone said serchlight was false? - not a fact

thats damn near the whole verse what facts u got left? theres EASILY as many facts on ether, if not more

1) Horse did body Nas on that Oochie Wally - Fact

2) He had the worst verse on the song - fact

3) Fell from "top 10" to "not mentioned at all" - fact

4) I showed you your first TEC, on tour with Large Professor - fact

"Large Professor has confirmed this story in variousinterviews. The incident took place in Washington DC in the early 90s (back when DC was the murder capital of the US).

Nas and Jay-Z were on the same tour, Nas with Large Pro’s group Main Source and Jay with The Jaz. After the show was cut short by promoters, angry fans followed the rappers back to the tour bus. Taking no chances with the DC crowd, young Hov pulled a Tec-9semi-automatic from a duffel bag."

5) So yeah, I sampled your voice, you was using it wrong
You made it a hot line, I made it a hot song - fact. Dead Prez is more critically acclaimed than .'The World Is Yours'

And we ain't even get to the numbers yet

6) And you ain't get a coin, nikka, you was getting fukked then
I know who I paid, God - Serchlite publishing

the reason Nas didn’t even make any money off Jay Z’s use of his songs is not because Hova treated him unfairly, but because Nas unwisely gave the substantive rights to his A&R executive Michael “MC Serch” Berrin — head of Serchlite Publishing. Serchlite the company existed - fact.

7) 2 of them shyts was due - fact (check the numbers)

8) 1 hot album every 10 years is lame - fact

9) Because you-know-who did you-know-what with you-know-who - fact Jay had an affair with Nas' baby moms. Do ya research.

And I didn't even go into further details.

Cold hard facts You wanna compare to ....

"Burn ya soul like ether" ?

 

[Art Barr]

It's funny how much shyt he gets from the Internet...

It's like he took a thread and went verbatim what people said A DECADE AGO

he was on the hamster getting tabled't then.
that is why it sounds like that.
Charlemagne, was the guy who gave this community.
the hold up.wait, why no Mentions on the source power rankings a few years ago.
that is why he knows of this community and who is on it, and the content.


Art Barr

 

[the cac mamba]

1) Horse did body Nas on that Oochie Wally - Fact

2) He had the worst verse on the song - fact

3) Fell from "top 10" to "not mentioned at all" - fact

4) I showed you your first TEC, on tour with Large Professor - fact

"Large Professor has confirmed this story in variousinterviews. The incident took place in Washington DC in the early 90s (back when DC was the murder capital of the US).

Nas and Jay-Z were on the same tour, Nas with Large Pro’s group Main Source and Jay with The Jaz. After the show was cut short by promoters, angry fans followed the rappers back to the tour bus. Taking no chances with the DC crowd, young Hov pulled a Tec-9semi-automatic from a duffel bag."

5) So yeah, I sampled your voice, you was using it wrong
You made it a hot line, I made it a hot song - fact. Dead Prez is more critically acclaimed than .'The World Is Yours'

And we ain't even get to the numbers yet

6) And you ain't get a coin, nikka, you was getting fukked then
I know who I paid, God - Serchlite publishing

the reason Nas didn’t even make any money off Jay Z’s use of his songs is not because Hova treated him unfairly, but because Nas unwisely gave the substantive rights to his A&R executive Michael “MC Serch” Berrin — head of Serchlite Publishing. Serchlite the company existed - fact.

7) 2 of them shyts was due - fact (check the numbers)

8) 1 hot album every 10 years is lame - fact

9) Because you-know-who did you-know-what with you-know-who - fact Jay had an affair with Nas' baby moms. Do ya research.

And I didn't even go into further details.

Cold hard facts You wanna compare to ....

"Burn ya soul like ether" ?

dont know what a "fact" is, brehs what a fukkin clown

 

[Diunx]

Camel Jockeys desperate trying to cosign any lame nikka that agrees to their revisionist history bullshyt, you gonna pretend to care about Charlamagne now?

Has camel even worked with Em again after Ether? guess he was too busy drying his tears

J.J. Evans get gunned up and clapped quick

 

[SixxiS]

dont know what a "fact" is, brehs what a fukkin clown

you mad cause you got aired out in your pathetic attempt to cape for a sub par rapper - fact

You have no coherent response to my post so you negged me out of anger and a lack of options - fact

I care about you negging me - not a fact

Now go outside and get some fresh air or something. You tried.

 

[ExodusNirvana]

Charlamagne is corny

 

[the cac mamba]

1) Horse did body Nas on that Oochie Wally - Fact
opinions on which verse is better isnt a fact. nas saying sauce money got him on bring it on wouldnt be a 'fact'
2) He had the worst verse on the song - fact
act like oochie wally is important, brehs
3) Fell from "top 10" to "not mentioned at all" - fact
for the love of christ this is not a "fact"
4) I showed you your first TEC, on tour with Large Professor - fact
so jay had a gun? how is it a "fact" it was the first one he saw?

5) So yeah, I sampled your voice, you was using it wrong
You made it a hot line, I made it a hot song - fact.
this is not a "fact"
6) And you ain't get a coin, nikka, you was getting fukked then
I know who I paid, God - Serchlite publishing
someone debunked this above. but if im wrong, this is your first fact so far

7) 2 of them shyts was due - fact (check the numbers)
i am did well nastradamus didnt, it wasnt a great album.
8) 1 hot album every 10 years is lame - fact
yea, if the rating was a fact and not jays opinion
9) Because you-know-who did you-know-what with you-know-who - fact Jay had an affair with Nas' baby moms. Do ya research.
braggin about sloppy seconds

its disgusting how jay stans take his opinion is fact this post even proved it

 

[the cac mamba]

you mad cause you got aired out in your pathetic attempt to cape for a sub par rapper - fact

You have no coherent response to my post so you negged me out of anger and a lack of options - fact

I care about you negging me - not a fact

Now go outside and get some fresh air or something. You tried.

damn this dude stays retarded

 

[iLLusoYuN_Da_Adidas_King]

The entire world can look NaS in his eyes and know NaS bodied Jay-z in that battle.

Charlamagne is a corny bamma nikka from North Carolina.... no one gives a fukk what a bytch as nikka has 2 say about the goat.