Charlie Kirk (Turning Points USA) shot and killed during event in Utah; Suspect Tyler Robinson charged
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PoorAndDangerous
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Yeah except you have to prove that their stated basis for firing you is really just a cover for this real reason. And if she signed an arbitration agreement you’re not even getting a real opportunity for a trial. It’s pretty difficult
Strong statement from this gentleman.
I don't follow this kind of lunacyOh yeah I forgot about that@Liu Kang did they ever take legal action on her??
And.. most states are at will employment
PoorAndDangerous
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Every state except 1. HR makes their policies so vague and all encompassing that they can fire you basically at anytime they want.
No HR department worth its salt will actually terminate an employee “for any reason they want.” Proper terminations require thorough documentation (emails, performance records, notes from prior discussions, etc.) and evidence that issues were addressed beforehand.
Anyone with real HR experience in employee relations and discipline will tell you that “at-will employment” doesn’t mean what many people assume it does. Employers still need to protect themselves and exercise due diligence in case of potential legal action.
You’re correct that, broadly speaking, many states are “employment at will.” However, case law shows numerous exceptions that aren’t spelled out in statutes.
Ask any HR professional who works in employee relations: in practice, “employment at will” doesn’t truly exist in the U.S. Because of how litigious this country is, terminating someone without justification is extremely risky and rarely advisable.
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PoorAndDangerous
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That’s why most companies require arbitration agreements as a condition of employment. I was actually fired recently for asking for professional references for another job opportunity. The day after I asked for references I was suspended. The stated reasons for firing were “social media policy violations” (The only social media I had active was LinkedIn) and “acceptable use policy violations” because I was using my personal MacBook for coding because Claude code was macOS only. Employed there for 8 years, top performer. You don’t need any long paper trail at all. They didn’t want to pay me more and just decided to get rid of me. Zero warnings, no PIP, just suspended and fired.
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Sorry to hear that, man — wishing you the best.
What exactly were they saying you did that violated the “social media” policy? Also, in most companies I’ve worked at, using a personal device for work is usually considered a violation because of concerns around access and intellectual property.
Just to be clear, I have worked in HR. People do get terminated under pretext, but if HR is doing their job properly, the company will provide a plausible explanation. For example, in your case, I’d assume the letter didn’t mention anything about you asking for references, right?
PoorAndDangerous
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Thanks! It was extremely shocking and dehumanizing. I actually thought they were going to offer me a raise and they told me I was being suspended. I worked hard as fukk.
Yeah, I had no idea it could be considered a violation, I had been using it for like 6 months to do JavaScript work. No one ever said anything about it, and one of my best friends is our I.T. Security guy. I was at a smaller company and my role evolved into one where I needed to do programming except they wouldn’t call me a programmer due to a whole slew of reasons. I was in an odd spot.
I honestly didn’t look at the specifics of the social media policy violation because I knew what they were doing. I’m fairly certain it had something to do with me posting little snippets of programming I did and describing the problem I solved with it—obviously no PII or anything like that. Not any intellectual property because we’re not some programming company, I used JavaScript for our PDF forms.
Their explanation is plausible until you look at the timeline of events and my history at the company. You’re correct they did not mention anything regarding asking for references. I had LinkedIn premium at the time which shows you who viewed your profile, and 40 minutes after I asked for references someone in HR viewed my profile, later that day the VP of HR viewed my profile—the next day I’m suspended. No previous warnings, zero history of any performance issues or policy violations. I actually received a 19% raise at the start of the year.
While I was suspended they dug through every email and teams message I ever sent and said that there was some “inappropriate” things sent to coworkers. On top of my other violations.
Lesson learned. I never thought in my wildest dreams they were going to fire me. Fun times!
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no when you work in an "at will" state which most states are which means if you are fired you can be fired for ANY reason ....
you can only NOT be fired for being in a "protected" group and you have to PROVE that they fired you for THAT express reason ( black ( or any other race even white ) , a religion, handicapped, woman, or Gay ) you have to have a lot of evidence to show it was systemic and ongoing with OTHER workers not just you...
so yeh you can be fired for some shyt you said about Kirk because if you work for a private company ...its been like that for over 40 years.
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