Did any of yall go to the game tonight? 
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Not sure I'd say Kyrie is better than Wall or Wade (when healthy) yet.
Kyrie keeps balling the next couple of weeks. Then I can see it
Wade is never healthy, and realistically Kyrie is a better fit with LeBron since he can hit the 3.
Dr. Narcisse
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Pretty sure Kyrie has surpassed Wade.
Kyrie has been better than Wall since his rookie season
Cant go there breh...
Last 2 and a half years Wall has been better. Not a whole lot better, but better.
Remember after Kyrie's first all star appearance his performance dipped big time and Wall was balling. Wall was better last year and he's an MVP candidate this year.
By playoff time it might be a different story, but based on stats/wins....Wall has been better breh.
Before LeBron came back (when the Cavs went 1-7) Wall was racking up MVP consideration.
Dr. Narcisse
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Kyrie's a better fit. Doesnt make him a better player....yet. Wade is putting up 21/5/4
Kyrie 21/5/3 (obviously goes up with 55 point game now)Gotta get some playoff stripes before I say he's better
Once Kyrie balls like I think he will...then yes. But I gotta see it first.
Remy LeBreh
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Kevin Love is playing like absolute shyt and on his worst day can still put up a double double, I can live with the that and hope they continue to gel
He's actually trying on defense now too
Mosgov out here teaching cats what it takes to win
He's actually trying on defense now too
Mosgov out here teaching cats what it takes to win
Kyrie's a better fit. Doesnt make him a better player....yet. Wade is putting up 21/5/4
Gotta get some playoff stripes before I say he's better
Once Kyrie balls like I think he will...then yes. But I gotta see it first.
Listen breh, every time I respond to you I gotta tell myself not to curse you out for what happened with Chalky
No he hasn't
Wall has never been better than Kyrie at any point in his career. Wall has had better team mates. He is not an MVP candidate either.
the 1-7 stretch is a bad example because the team was going through a multitude of injuries and personnel switches during that period of the season.
Dr. Narcisse
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Listen breh, every time I respond to you I gotta tell myself not to curse you out for what happened with Chalky
Dr. Narcisse
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No he hasn't
Wall has never been better than Kyrie at any point in his career. Wall has had better team mates. He is not an MVP candidate either.
the 1-7 stretch is a bad example because the team was going through a multitude of injuries and personnel switches during that period of the season.
Last year
Wall vs. Irving in 2013-14
MPG PTS FG% 3P% REB AST STL USG% PER WS
Kyrie Irving 35.2 20.8 43.0 35.8 3.6 6.1 1.5 28.2 20.1 6.7
John Wall 36.3 19.3 43.3 35.1 4.1 8.8 1.8 27.4 19.5 7.9
As I've said...this year he's been clearly better...SO FAR.
At the halfway point of Kyrie's 2nd year...he fell the fukk off.
Those are facts fam.
That isnt to say Wall will always be better or that Kyrie wont clown him in the playoffs.
Put Wall on the Cavs last season and they don't do shyt, put Kyrie on the Wizards last season and they go to the ECF.
Dr. Narcisse
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Put Wall on the Cavs last season and they don't do shyt, put Kyrie on the Wizards last season and they go to the ECF.
Kyrie was trash defensively last year breh. You underestimate how much better he's got.
I dont want to get too deep in this debate cause you gotta knock one to pump up the other.
People had expectations for the Cavs to make the playoffs last year. Now thats not to say it was all Kyrie's fault. But dude had his troubles. Kyrie would probably make the playoffs in DC. But what makes the Wizards so good is how Wall sets up shooters and feeds the Bigs.
Watching Kyrie run the pick and roll
Kevin Love never gets the ball and Kyrie would rather force to the hoop. I'm not sure Kyrie's getting more than 6 assists a game.Its apple and oranges really.
I'd take Wall last year on the Cavs and I think they would have performed better. Wall in a Mike Brown defense
On this year's squad I'd Kyrie over Wall. He's a much better fit with LeBron.
Again its apples oranges. Wall is clearly a better true pg. Kyrie's is an elite scorer playing pg.
Both are very good
Dr. Narcisse
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You a Wiz fan.
I think the Kyrie/Wall debate has been a close one of the years. With Wall slightly better the last 2 and half years (at least last 2)
Am I off on this one breh or on point
If you can be objective
Wiggins has a non existent offensive game. All he's managed to do is score when his team is down 20points every game. Kevin Love is still giving you 18 &10 as a third option without a true point guard like Rubio feeding him the ball.