Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson Throws Selective Enrollment Schools in the Bushes

[The God Poster]

Anybody who voted for him based on his promise this is the time to light a fire

I always mention how voters never get at politicians until it’s too late(election season)

You clearly have a situation where he isn’t following thru. Time to address it is now

 

[Godless Socialist CEO]

no-holds barred southers school choice is not the same as major nothern city school choice and you know it.
these are high achieving schools full of black students. without typical teachers union-style talking points, explain why those high achieving schools should be destroyed.

Don’t you dare use the opinions of experts as to why this is bad

Why would I engage someone who doesn’t think the opinions of the people who know best matter. FOH

 

[GoldenGlove]

Why would any family support this?

Families aren't given a seat at the table. The Board of Education is voting on this

 

[GoldenGlove]

Charter type schools are fukking horrible and just a way to fukk up tax dollars going to public schools.

shyt literally is a manipulation to make Black neighborhood public schools even worse!

This also needs to be talked about more lowkey

 

[Godless Socialist CEO]

Families aren't given a seat at the table. The Board of Education is voting on this

Who elects the school boards?

 

[Piff Perkins]

Also a lot of folks on this board really really hate other black folks based on the way this thread has gone. School choice was never a good thing, and has always been used to deprive black schools of funds and make the education worse for our people. Trust me as someone who lives Florida, I've seen this bullshyt first hand my entire life

While I generally agree, Florida is not the normative example of this process. Money flows into public schools across the country outside of the south and Texas, and the results are bad. My problem is that so much time is spent ignoring or denying bad school conditions and bad teachers that this becomes an ideological battle where results are irrelevant. That's bad for kids.

I've got enough family in Chicago to know many of these selective enrollment schools have a lot of black students who are excelling. If you want to remove them, I need to see actual policies and plans to provide similar or even base line schooling in their neighborhoods. Sending these into the abyss to make a political or ideological point is stupid.

 

[GoldenGlove]

Not even trying to hide the fact that he’s a blatant puppet for the teachers union. Meanwhile all their kids go to private school. Johnson is a fukking goofball. Can’t stand him. Everything from his glasses to the fact he 40 with a faux hawk pisses me off. He’s lost the black vote also. I mean the immigration shyt already sealed it but if he gets rid of magnet schools goodbye. And this will only drive more families to the burbs/out of state. I miss the Daley days. These progressives truly don’t know how government works

Maybe the West and North burbs.

Out South, there's only a handful of high performing districts

 

[GoldenGlove]

Who elects the school boards?

I think it's different for Chicago Public Schools. I believe the Mayor appoints the members.

Outside of the city, residents elect the boards. Now, whether or not your average constituent cares or understands how important their local school board is is another discussion

 

[Braman]

It’s a tough pill to swallow…and probably not a convo I’d have in mixed company….but a ton of initiatives that are products of ‘woke’ doctrine are destroying us. Bc an lgbt-feminist fueled/accomodating party is predictably high on emotion and fukkery

1- Defund the police—-which was a disastrous word choice —-has led to crime going unchecked and gives Repubs a layup election talking point

2- ‘Let’s welcome all immigration’—-has led to cities busing migrants into other cities And has led to a complete clsuteruck

3- ‘Kill the rich’ energy. The problem with that is, ‘rich’ is relative. To the hood folk, if you an inch above middle class you rich. But just bc I’m black don’t mean I relate to am beholden to the hood We want our kids in charter schools and private schools too. But by the time it reaches the super woke level all black peoples interests are tied together with the lowest denominator. Our core issues become police shootings, prison reform, drug sentencing guidelines

 

[Godless Socialist CEO]

While I generally agree, Florida is not the normative example of this process. Money flows into public schools across the country outside of the south and Texas, and the results are bad. My problem is that so much time is spent ignoring or denying bad school conditions and bad teachers that this becomes an ideological battle where results are irrelevant. That's bad for kids.

I've got enough family in Chicago to know many of these selective enrollment schools have a lot of black students who are excelling. If you want to remove them, I need to see actual policies and plans to provide similar or even base line schooling in their neighborhoods. Sending these into the abyss to make a political or ideological point is stupid.

This is a totally fair take and I'm curious to see what kind of plans Johnson has in place to improve those schools that have been deprived of funds.

 

[GoldenGlove]

It's being discussed but I've yet to see any evidence this is definitely going to happen. So overreaction - or reacting to Daily Mail articles, which are usually right wing trash - isn't warranted.

My issue with the idea of this is simple. If you do not support selective schools you should have to present a logical, beneficial alternative. The public schools are bad, across the country in many states. Failing grade rates, poor performance, disruption. Problems that just fester because teachers are not held accountable, resources are not appropriated correctly, and administrators don't give a shyt as long as the fed+state money keeps coming in (based on test results that are largely deceptive or incomplete). Who is the winner in this scenario? Until we have a complete rework of our education system we're gonna keep failing, especially black and Hispanic students.

They vote on this tonight.

Far from just speculation.

 

[Godless Socialist CEO]

It’s a tough pill to swallow…and probably not a convo I’d have in mixed company….but a ton of initiatives that are products of ‘woke’ doctrine are destroying us. Bc an lgbt-feminist fueled/accomodating party is predictably high on emotion and fukkery

1- Defund the police—-which was a disastrous word choice —-has led to crime going unchecked

2- ‘Let’s welcome all immigration’—-has led to cities busing migrants into other cities And has led to a complete clsuteruck

3- ‘Kill the rich’ energy. The problem with that is, ‘rich’ is relative. To the good folk, if you an inch above middle class you rich. But just bc I’m black don’t mean I relate to am beholden to the hood We want our kids in charter schools and private schools too. But by the time it reaches the super woke level all black peoples interests are tied together with the lowest denominator. Our core issues become police shootings, prison reform, drug sentencing guidelines

 

[GoldenGlove]

Also a lot of folks on this board really really hate other black folks based on the way this thread has gone. School choice was never a good thing, and has always been used to deprive black schools of funds and make the education worse for our people. Trust me as someone who lives Florida, I've seen this bullshyt first hand my entire life

I don't think parents who send their kids outside of their neighborhood schools want to. They have their reasoning. Their taxes are going to the public school that they aren't even using.

So there's conviction in their decision to not send their kids to the school that is getting 70% or more of their property taxes.

 

[Piff Perkins]

This is a totally fair take and I'm curious to see what kind of plans Johnson has in place to improve those schools that have been deprived of funds.

I'm more than open if there's a good plan in place. But the first step seems like it should be prioritizing neighborhood schools. Revamping buildings, paying teachers more, expanding advanced programs, increasing security, etc. That's a state and federal money issue. Then you get into funding that's tied to tests, and how that impacts learning (and teaching). Every year math and reading skills are declining but magically schools keep their test-based funding. To me that's a controversy. If you're a southern republican state that probably means siphoning money into suburbs and private schools. If you're a northern democrat state that probably means siphoning money to administration and consultants. How you get rid of that shyt in order to fix schools, I don't know. All I know is that the current situation sucks and we are literally training kids who look a certain way to become a permanent underclass for labor that might not even exist in a few more decades.

 

[yung Herbie Hancock]

This mayor is a real clown. Hrs a caricature of incompetence