Child Support card that can only be spent on the child; Women are against it

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Cabbage Patch

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I literally did.

"I think it should pay for the child's expenses as well as 1/2 of the rent and utilities.
Considering the child is the one who suffers if 1/2 the rent and utilities can't be paid.
And the child shouldn't get the card at 13, as I don't know a single 13 year old who would use it responsibly.
This is still a good idea though."


I don't support the child's mother using the money for anything personal, but the money should go to anything related to the child's well-being.
That includes housing, utilities, food, clothing, entertainment, tuition, school supplies, doctor, dental.
The point is that if it is going to all of that then the person making the money should make those decisions.

Why should he pay for a house he's not living in just because she wants to? Hoes are confusing spousal support for child support.

Same goes for tuition, clothing etc.

Making custodial parents responsible for accounting for every dime would go a long way to curbing abuse and giving non custodial parents more faith that funds are spent on the childs needs and not the custodials wants.
 

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The issue with women like @GarnetGem is their always referencing the ain't shyt dudes like we good men don't know they exist. We do and we believe they should provide for their kids but us who are working hard, we don't deserve 99% of the loops that child support takes you through.

what ain't shyt dudes did i reference, mention, bring up? please refresh my memory. my only anecdotal evidence is how my mother used my child support.

i recall pointing out the difference of opinion between people in this very thread. some said that child support should not go towards utilities and others disagreed. how is this card going to change the loops that you guys go through?

matter of fact, i posted that there is already a card like this. the eppicard is a system used by some states for child support, social security, and even disability payments. it is also privatized and has over 480 complaints toward the business. it's accepted anywhere a debit card is, you can use it for cash back, and withdraw the money from it as well. the noncustodial parent can see transactions posted to it. it also charges a 0.20 fee to check the balance each time, and the same fee amount is applied when you swipe the card.
 

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Women stop making emotional arguments.

@GarnetGem those sob stories not gonna phase Men. Women need to own up to their responsibilities in choosing the right Man and making sure they form a union and give birth to a child in a situation with a Man she has been with long-term.

You may see it as "harsh" but it is to dissuade these Whores from using the system for their own personal rent check service - Including Women who bear children to fulfill their own emotional voids.

If you don't like the transactional nature - Perhaps help pass out condoms to young Women.

how are my arguments emotional? you brought up your awful stepmother and how she's a terrible person and additionally all bw are terrible mothers. my stepmother was/is a great person. no division between my siblings and myself, still with my dad, and took care of me when i was sick. (anecdotal)

all of my points, examples have been things that factually (no denying) occur in EVERY situation when raising a child. they have to be bathed, children have to be potty trained. utilities increase, extra gas is spent. you and i disagree as to the limits on the card. i'm not for the program, because it isn't sound. there are problems with establishing and maintaining that.

now, if your suggestion is that a child support debit card is gonna put your mind at ease, that's fine, you don't trust the decision-making skills of the person raising your child. but i see the call for what it is-nickel and diming the cardholder as a means of control. monitoring the account because you want a say-so in 'your' money. we were discussing where the card should be used, and what it could be used on. correct me if i'm wrong, but didnt' you suggest a separate audit committee that would review purchases made because the noncustodial parent didn't agree?

i even linked to a privatized card (the Eppicard) that is used by some states to disburse child support, social security, and disability payments. unfortunately, the system is a mess. people are locked out of their account, can't make payments from their card, are being charged for even looking at their balance.
if you had a child, you're the noncustodial parent, and they were going through mess with this card, would you be on the phone trying to get it settled? after all, it's support for the child. if your bm called you and told you they couldn't access the money on the card because the company is having problems, what would you do?

take a look : eppicard complaints
 

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Let's do something basic math for the borderline-retards on this board.
Equality generally means equal right?
So, 50-50 right?
So, as a parent he would put 50% of the child's finances up. Right? That's how math works.
Its 50% his kid, right?
Since he's the father an all.
Are you with me on this?
So as 1/2 of the child's genetic material, and 50% of the actions that made the child, he is also 50% of ensuring the child's well being.


so basically if a woman has 2 different baby daddies on child support, the men should split all the household expenses?


:ohhh:
 

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I don't have an issue with this program. But the women aren't wrong. It takes a lot more than a measly couple 100s a month to support a child.
and if they are sharing custody??is she really raising the child on her own??
Why hoes always tryina undermine co-parenting?
Even hoes who are in serious relationships still consider themselves 'single parents'... :pachaha:
Not being together with your babys father is not the end of the world..if he is doing his part thats all that matters

You got men out there who pay child support and spend a lot of time with their children
If a woman's baby daddy is MIA or she only gets a check thats a different story..but if
-She is grown
-Has a job
-Shares custody
-Gets child support

She needs to shut the fukk up...if she cant handle her business..she should give up custody,start paying CP and let the father keep shorty
Lets see how she likes them visitation days

Plenty of single fathers out there..you will never hear em yap about how hard its raising kids on their own
 

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so basically if a woman has 2 different baby daddies on child support, the men should split all the household expenses?


:ohhh:
Essentially, yeah.
If they don't want to, they can switch up and take custody of the kids.
Not too difficult of a concept.
 

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and if they are sharing custody??is she really raising the child on her own??
Why hoes always tryina undermine co-parenting?
Even hoes who are in serious relationships still consider themselves 'single parents'... :pachaha:
Not being together with your babys father is not the end of the world..if he is doing his part thats all that matters

You got men out there who pay child support and spend a lot of time with their children
If a woman's baby daddy is MIA or she only gets a check thats a different story..but if
-She is grown
-Has a job
-Shares custody
-Gets child support

She needs to shut the fukk up...if she cant handle her business..she should give up custody,start paying CP and let the father keep shorty
Lets see how she likes them visitation days

Plenty of single fathers out there..you will never hear em yap about how hard its raising kids on their own
Plenty...is not majority.
 

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Where is the phalanx of men who want sole or even partial custody?

I do and I have custody of my kids she pays me child support
I would always want custody of my kids no matter what cuz I love them and will do right by them
 

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I do and I have custody of my kids she pays me child support
I would always want custody of my kids no matter what cuz I love them and will do right by them
what do you use the child support money on?
 

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Whatever they need and if not needed it gets saved for them later

I use my own money primarily to get them what they need is what ends up happening

I save it for college primarily
 

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Whatever they need and if not needed it gets saved for them later

I use my own money primarily to get them what they need is what ends up happening

I save it for college primarily

could you clarify what you mean by "whatever they need"
how do you keep the child support separate from your income? two different accounts?
(if it's not too prying, how much do you receive a month, and how old are your children?)
have you ever used it towards utilities?
have you ever used it on groceries that you also ate?
have you ever used it on gas?
have you always saved the excess cs?
has there ever been an emergency situation where you had to use the cs on something that would affect the children? like home or vehicle maintenance?
do you think most people are in a similar financial situation as yourself?
 
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