China pushes for World Bank rival

[Poitier]

U think a totalitarian state wants to start a bank out of altruistic motives

without the ethical leanings of the west which is fine

Just be utterly stupid.

Bump up an old thread and bring up altruism in a topic about debt creation

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

Just be utterly stupid.

Bump up an old thread and bring up altruism in a topic about debt creation

I didn't bump the thread, and u were the one who brought up "ethical leanings" and gave China the ethical green light for furthering IMF style debt slavery :yadontsay:

 

[Poitier]

I didn't bump the thread, and u were the one who brought up "ethical leanings" and gave China the ethical green light for furthering IMF style debt slavery :yadontsay:

I said China DOESN'T have ethics and is NOTHING like the IMF outside of debt creation

 

[Mowgli]

They giving out loans to black businesses?

 

[jerome]

While the U.S. power decreases and China increases the third world countries in the struggle will have buffer room to be free from Western hegemony. Th next problem is Chinese hegemony, which is less brutal but still a problem. Honestly with the right moves countries in Africa can in on some good shyt with China while still having economic and political sovereignty.

 

[Futuristic Eskimo]

While the U.S. power decreases and China increases the third world countries in the struggle will have buffer room to be free from Western hegemony. Th next problem is Chinese hegemony, which is less brutal but still a problem. Honestly with the right moves countries in Africa can in on some good shyt with China while still having economic and political sovereignty.

American hegemony wasn't this brutal until it one day was. Wouldn't a better bet be on internal reform rather than a wild card like China freeing the rest of the world from economic slavery? Projecting what they are going to do in theoretical situation where they have all the power is problematic at best.

 

[jerome]

American hegemony wasn't this brutal until it one day was. Wouldn't a better bet be on internal reform rather than a wild card like China freeing the rest of the world from economic slavery? Projecting what they are going to do in theoretical situation where they have all the power is problematic at best.

US hegemony and imperialism has always been violent and brutal even before they became the world super power after WW2 (Haiti , Algiers, Cuba etc ). What im saying is that internal reform can not happen unless the U.S. is weak and loses its influence on the third world. In this specific scenario it happens to be China, and Russia making them weaker.

In all honesty , would rather have China and Russia as the world super powers than the US and NATO allies.

 

[Futuristic Eskimo]

US hegemony and imperialism has always been violent and brutal even before they became the world super power after WW2 (Haiti , Algiers, Cuba etc ). What im saying is that internal reform can not happen unless the U.S. is weak and loses its influence on the third world. In this specific scenario it happens to be China, and Russia making them weaker.

In all honesty , would rather have China and Russia as the world super powers than the US and NATO allies.

When I think of China and Russia, humanitarian and non-violent rule definitely come to mind You had a small slice of Russian imperialism in the Eastern Bloc during the Cold War. It is not surprising that all the countries that lived under their rule have shifted their allegiances to the west and that they would disagree with you strongly.

 

[jerome]

When I think of China and Russia, humanitarian and non-violent rule definitely come to mind You had a small slice of Russian imperialism in the Eastern Bloc during the Cold War. It is not surprising that all the countries that lived under their rule have shifted their allegiances to the west and that they would disagree with you strongly.

Yet there humanitarian record is still better than the United States and NATO. Never said they didn't engage in imperialism .

 

[Domingo Halliburton]

In all honesty , would rather have China and Russia as the world super powers than the US and NATO allies.

you said that without a hint of irony, didn't you?

 

[Futuristic Eskimo]

Yet there humanitarian record is still better than the United States and NATO. Never said they didn't engage in imperialism .

Every state that has had power has committed atrocities. Its one of the only constants in world history. Instead of having some kind of power over this country's foreign policy and its implications in the rest of the world, you want to punt the responsibility to Russia and China to give them carte blanche to do whatever they want.

Complete and utter stupidity.

 

[Futuristic Eskimo]

you said that without a hint of irony, didn't you?

These idiots will say anything just to be contrarian. Got dudes in here supporting Nazis and wanting China and Russia out of all countries to handle things on the world stage

 

[Domingo Halliburton]

yes, china the world leader in executions isn't worse than the west.

Amnesty International has documented widespread human rights violations in China. An estimated 500,000 people are currently enduring punitive detention without charge or trial, and millions are unable to access the legal system to seek redress for their grievances. Harassment, surveillance, house arrest, and imprisonment of human rights defenders are on the rise, and censorship of the Internet and other media has grown. Repression of minority groups, including Tibetans, Uighurs and Mongolians, and of Falun Gong practitioners and Christians who practice their religion outside state-sanctioned churches continues. While the recent reinstatement of Supreme People's Court review of death penalty cases may result in lower numbers of executions, China remains the leading executioner in the world.

 

[jerome]

Every state that has had power has committed atrocities. Its one of the only constants in world history. Instead of having some kind of power over this country's foreign policy and its implications in the rest of the world, you want to punt the responsibility to Russia and China to give them carte blanche to do whatever they want.

Complete and utter stupidity.

Yeah because people in the country actually have a say on foreign policy lol. I am only saying the inevitable, you have to be realistic. I never said I wanted the Russia and China to have the carte blanche in geo-politics. I said I would be more ideal to them surpassing the United States and NATO as world powers to weaken western influence. This is reality, when dealing with geo-politics you have to go with the lesser evil. The Good bad dichotomy is elementary.

 

[jerome]

yes, china the world leader in executions isn't worse than the west.

Yet you have the US with the highest prison population in the world with only a population of 300 million. That is on the domestic side of things. If you look globally at what the US has done vs China. China is the lesser evil