China to invest 30 billion USD in Haiti

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Zoe,

the land is terrible in Haiti. If you look at an aerial shot.....you can see the effects of centuries of deforestation. probably 3 quarters of the trees that were once there are gone..... That's one of the biggest challenges for Haiti.

Do a screenshot of the entire island from the air and it's night and day.....DR has trees, Haiti looks bare.

That's why I've been keeping it 100 about the incompetence of past leadership and how they've run the country into the ground. Other side of the island had the same problem, with poor people chopping trees down for cooking fuel, but they took measures to prevent stop and reverse that.

I boycotted the Timberland company for about 15 years because of the article from back in the days with the CEO openly ashamed that urban Blacks were making his brand hot, but after the earthquake..I read about how Timberland was taking measures to replant trees and TRAIN Haitians about agriculture and sustaining trees, I actually started wearing the shoes again.

 

[Fatboi1]

That's a common thing everyone does

I do love how Haitians will call non Haitians blacks "blan" tho

I never heard of that. Haitians call other non haitians by their nationality.

 

[New Username]

nikkas rooting China men to takeover Haiti

Disgusting

Especially you so called militants

 

[BigMan]

I never heard of that. Haitians call other non haitians by their nationality.

yall use "blan" to refer to foreigners and "neg" with each other

 

[Fatboi1]

yall use "blan" to refer to foreigners and "neg" with each other

We call white people "blan" but I've never, ever heard a haitian refer to another black non haitian as "blan". We call AA's american and white americans "blan" as well as virtually any other white people. "neg" is used to refer to some dude. it's almost like sayin nikka really.

 

[BigMan]

We call white people "blan" but I've never, ever heard a haitian refer to another black non haitian as "blan". We call AA's american and white americans "blan" as well as virtually any other white people. "neg" is used to refer to some dude. it's almost like sayin nikka really.

i've heard differently
my son @Mega heard differently too
im pretty sure it comes from Dessalines declaring all Haitians black and Haitians reappropriating "neg"

 

[Mega]

We call white people "blan" but I've never, ever heard a haitian refer to another black non haitian as "blan". We call AA's american and white americans "blan" as well as virtually any other white people. "neg" is used to refer to some dude. it's almost like sayin nikka really.

Believe me they call other non Haitian Blacks "Blan"

Even children of the Haitian Diaspora often get called "Blan" as has happen to me many times.
White and Arab Haitians who were born and raised in Haiti are considered Natif Natal (Born Native) They are viewed as just Haitians nothing more nothing less.
But for me even though I have strong roots and ties to Haiti, I am still at times called a Blan since I was born abroad and speak Kreyol with an accent.

Check out the article below for further explanation.

"As I travel back to Haiti now to understand my roots as an adult, I discovered that Haitian’s I talked to on the street called me a “Jaspora” or “Blan.” For the most part, I was considered a “Blan” because my creole is very bad and just by looking at me they said they could tell I am a “foreigner"

My Haitian experience ” They Called Me Blan ” By Rachelle Salnave

 

[newarkhiphop]

Haiti is an agriculture goldmine. Plenty of use able land to grow food to feed the island and also export as well.

It's really not. Your probably basing this on the weather am assuming lots of sun, rain, and what looks like hundred of thousands of green acre? . Probably Haitís best keep secret by those that have raped her over the years is the fact its one of the, if not the most defrosted places in the world. That turns the soil mostly unusable for agricultural purposes.

 

[Mega]

It's really not. Your probably basing this on the weather am assuming lots of sun, rain, and what looks like hundred of thousands of green acre? . Probably Haitís best keep secret by those that have raped her over the years is the fact its one of the, if not the most defrosted places in the world. That turns the soil mostly unusable for agricultural purposes.

"Using images from the United States Geological Survey and the FAO’s definition of a forest, the geologist found Haiti's forest cover actually stood at nearly 30 percent.
Report after report claims that Haiti has only a 2 percent forest cover, the result of unsustainable logging practices.
Organizations use this statistic as a lever to get funding and help. For them, it’s a lot more convenient to have a narrative that works"

The Supposed Deforestation of Haiti Is a Lie

One of the most repeated facts about Haiti is a lie
Opinion | Who Will Speak for Haiti’s Trees?

 

[Bawon Samedi]

Wasn't it a myth that Haiti is heavily deforested? Someone correct me.

 

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Opinion | Who Will Speak for Haiti’s Trees?

One of the most repeated facts about Haiti is a lie

Gonna call BS on the Vice article.

The entire article is based on challenging the "2%" number and attributing the use of that figure as part of racist propaganda towards Haiti.

Anybody from Haiti with a relative there over 60 years old, ask THEM what they think.
The lack of trees has even impacted the average temperature and rainfall totals over the decades.

When hurricanes or rainstorms hit....parts of Haiti are DEVASTATED....partly because of of mudslides because the trees are gone. and there has been NO state sponsored replanting efforts for the past 50 years.


'Ill be back. no disrepect intended but gotta call BS on the article..and any older relative of yours still there will tell you the same thing no matter which part of the island they live on.

 

[BigMan]

Gonna call BS on the Vice article.

The entire article is based on challenging the "2%" number and attributing the use of that figure as part of racist propaganda towards Haiti.

Anybody from Haiti with a relative there over 60 years old, ask THEM what they think.
The lack of trees has even impacted the average temperature and rainfall totals over the decades.

When hurricanes or rainstorms hit....parts of Haiti are DEVASTATED....partly because of of mudslides because the trees are gone. and there has been NO state sponsored replanting efforts for the past 50 years.


'Ill be back. no disrepect intended but gotta call BS on the article..and any older relative of yours still there will tell you the same thing no matter which part of the island they live on.

the vice article simply states that the 2% number is wrong and the actual cover is up to 30%. unless i'm' missing something the article doesn't mentioned state sponsored replanting efforts in fact they mentioned distrust of the government.

i just went on Google Earth now and Haiti doesn't look like a barren wasteland like its reported

 

[Bawon Samedi]

Anyways ignoring the hysteria. Its said that the development starts around December.

Instead having a "da Chinaman iz gonna colonize Haiti!" mentality[which in reality comes from White Western thinking], Haiti and these other Black Nations should be thinking about using China as a tool[for their development] but more importantly finessing/manipulating them out of BETTER deals. China did this with with Western Investors. Doing smart business should be the goal. Not spreading hotep and western influenced paranoia nonsense. I agree that Haiti should STAY AWAY from the USA. But when you have countries with VERY BIG GDPs[especially non-western] such as China, Brazil, Japan, South Korea, India or Russia willing to do business[and it can benefit said country] the idea should not be "dey gonna take ova! da black man iz so stupid!" but again trying to get the best deal. Whether these militants like it or not no countries develops in a vacuum. Countries like Japan, South Korea, Thailand, Singapore, China and many of these Asians did not.

The Silk Road project is basically the Chinese version of the Marshall plan for developing countries.

But getting to my main point... I know Rwanda is not perfect at all. But I believe at least for now Haiti should use Rwanda as its model at least when it comes to the capital. I know people said the Caribbean and Africa are different but I see Haiti as a miniature version of an African country. And Haiti does have some resources. More importantly Haiti and Rwanda are actually around the same size[Haiti is bigger] and I've seen some Haitian claim Haiti should take some notes on how Kigali was developed. Rwanda like most of the Caribbean lacks resources yet China invested heavily in Kigali's infrastructure.

Rwanda is a landlocked country with few natural resources. So why is China investing so heavily in it?

It’s hard not to see China’s footprint wherever one goes in Rwanda. Chinese engineers have designed and built the country’s tallest building, Kigali City Tower, a gleaming 20-story glass skyscraper; the building that houses Rwanda’s foreign ministry; various hotels, schools, and hospitals; and 80% of the country’s roads, according to a former Chinese ambassador to Rwanda. A sign on a primary school near government offices declares the school’s playground “a gift from China.” A clinic in town offers acupuncture and traditional Chinese medicine.

Why is China investing so heavily in a small landlocked African country with few natural resources?

If Haiti plays their cards right and get the better deal, I personally believe Port Au Prince can slowly become like Kigali. I just want infrastructure for Haiti.

@Clean Cut since you live in Rwanda. Your thoughts?

 

[get these nets]

the vice article simply states that the 2% number is wrong and the actual cover is up to 30%. unless i'm' missing something the article doesn't mentioned state sponsored replanting efforts in fact they mentioned distrust of the government.

i just went on Google Earth now and Haiti doesn't look like a barren wasteland like its reported

I'm saying that the 2% stat repeated in the Vice article is a straw man argument. Neither I nor the other poster who mentioned deforestation cited that number, and harping on challenging that number obscures the fact that Haiti does suffer from deforestation.

I'm certain that the stats will back me up on the measurable effects of deforestation being evident in Haiti....in the form of rising temperatures and low rain totals over the decades, as opposed to the other side of the island.
Haiti used to not import rice, it does now.....that's a function of a number of factors, but I'd assume that decreased fertility of soil and lower rain totals has to factor in.

I just read that Haiti imports 80% of the rice consumed there ....wait WHAT?????

Gonna look up the food production and food export numbers...but I suspect that the numbers will be consistent with a country that isn't replenishing it's fallen trees.

the actual picture which people cite about deforestation is from a 1987 NG article. It's a real photo of the Haiti/d.r. borderand it's here

 

[BigMan]

I'm saying that the 2% stat repeated in the Vice article is a straw man argument. Neither I nor the other poster who mentioned deforestation cited that number, and harping on challenging that number obscures the fact that Haiti does suffer from deforestation.

I'm certain that the stats will back me up on the measurable effects of deforestation being evident in Haiti....in the form of rising temperatures and low rain totals over the decades, as opposed to the other side of the island.
Haiti used to not import rice, it does now.....that's a function of a number of factors, but I'd assume that decreased fertility of soil and lower rain totals has to factor in.

I just read that Haiti imports 80% of the rice consumed there ....wait WHAT?????

Gonna look up the food production and food export numbers...but I suspect that the numbers will be consistent with a country that isn't replenishing it's fallen trees.

the actual picture which people cite about deforestation is from a 1987 NG article. It's a real photo of the Haiti/d.r. borderand it's here

the main reason Haiti imports rice because of the US
https://www.ers.usda.gov/webdocs/publications/39144/56601_rcs-16a-01.pdf?v=42401

and the article doesn't ignore deforestation problems and if you have the stats than please provide it

here's a much more recent picture that the article uses

its not a strawmen, the poster mentioned that Haiti is one of the most deforested countries in the world...presumably based on that widely circulated NatGeo picture