China’s Hongqi bridge collapsing months after opening

[Strapped]

What I like about china is that if it collapsed because of incompetence then the incompetent people die.

The 2008 sanlu milk poisoning people killed 5 or 6 kids & they got life in prison . The United States would of given them a fine

 

[Pull Up the Roots]

The 2008 sanlu milk poisoning people killed 5 or 6 kids & got life in prison . The United States would of given them a fine

The Sanlu scandal was deliberate fraud, not negligence (negligence should carry harsh punishment too). They intentionally added a poisonous chemical to watered-down milk to pass quality control and were punished accordingly (I oppose the death penalty in all circumstances). For a similar case here, look at what happened with the Peanut Corporation of America and Stewart Parnell and his brother. They knowingly shipped salmonella-contaminated peanuts, falsified safety test results, and covered up evidence of contamination. Both of them were convicted on federal charges.

Peanut Butter, Salmonella, and a 28-Year Sentence: The Stewart Parnell Case

The story of Stewart Parnell and the Peanut Corporation of America stands as a somber lesson in both food safety and legal accountability. It demonstrated that no one is above the law, not even corporate executives in corner offices.

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The 11th Circuit Upholds Longest Sentences Ever Imposed In Food Safety Prosecution—What Can We Learn from the Case?

Two Venable LLP attorneys discuss the recent appellate ruling upholding the convictions and sentences of executives stemming from a widespread salmonella outbreak that led to nine deaths. The authors warn that those in the food industry—and their outside legal and compliance advisors—should...

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[MMS]

Them monks in Tibet tapped into the dark side of the force

Feng shui
Main article: feng shui
In the 19th century, Christian missionaries in China translated feng shui as "geomancy" due to their observations of local shamans and priests manipulating the flow and direction of energy based on aesthetics, location, and position of objects and buildings. Although it stems from a distinct tradition, the term geomancy now commonly includes feng shui. Similarly, the introduction of a similar Indian system of aesthetics and positioning to harmonize the local energies, vastu shastra, has come under the name "geomancy".

 

[247Alex]

shyt place to build a bridge

 

[newarkhiphop]

The bridge didn't fail the mountain did

 

[hood b. goode]

"LEE we goin over!!!"

 

[summwunn]

. . . . the engineers bout to find out . . . .

 

[Illuminatos]

I don’t know whose more pathetic on this site, the illegal immigrant defenders or the China dikkriders.

 

[Address_Unknown]

Not going to lie extremely disappointed Shin Godzilla didn't step out of all that smoke like ​

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[Nkrumah Was Right]

I don’t know whose more pathetic on this site, the illegal immigrant defenders or the China dikkriders.

You have a PEDOPHILE as your president and head of state but you’re anxious about China?

My brother

 

[Mike_Pipeson]

I came to see the CCP spies flood with misinformation. Only at the second page and have yet to see any comments calling it CGI...

 

[desjardins]

It collapsed because of a landslide

Americans want China to fail so badly, yet they elected Trump. Projection? Double-consciousness?

right
the smoke coming from the mountain side should have been a clear sign it's more to the story
The fact China even has a major bridge that's "months old" is ether to our infrastructure
What was the last major U.S infrastructure project?
According to google it was the Frederick Douglas bridge in DC that opened in 2021 and that took 4 yrs and $500m

 

[Premeditated]

look at all these black Patriots being an attack dog against China on behalf of their Uncle Sam, Donald

what has the government of China done to black folks in America for you to be so against them?

it's not like they actively have a plan against you.

 

[CopiousX]

I’m sure it was considering the location. Most shyt built on mountains have this considered, doesn’t mean it’s preventable.

In the old days they didn’t really give af.

It’s called a risk assessment though. No project goes on without one. Mother Nature is undefeated

Now i know you and @5n0man are having light hearted dialogue, and believe me I am cracking up in the background just reading the back and forth between yall.



But im pretty sure you can engineer a structure capable of surviving a landslide. Now take this with a grain of salt because i only ever took one cad course in college and the coursework of the civil engineers and mechanical engineers in the class scared me at the time. Their physics was on another level brehs


With that disclaimer being said, I'm pretty sure you could make a structure that can support itself independently of the hill that's prone to landslides by preemptively digging into the hill and fastening a foundation of steel and concrete under the hill and having a leg of the bridge grow upward from it. This would all be supported by the same tunneling equipment used by subways to prevent them from collapsing in earth quake prone cities like Tokyo, except it would be vertical instead of horizontal.



Again, as a computer guy I don't know how feasible this would be ; but after getting that foundation built you could be even more thorough by having connecting support beams to the free-standing pillars of the bridge. You should be able to calculate the exact amount of force of a potential landslide and the specific gravity of moist soil through cad software based on the composition of the Hill, and then select the thickness/material of the pillar accordingly.

 

[O.T.I.S.]

Now i know you and @5n0man are having light hearted dialogue, and believe me I am cracking up in the background just reading the back and forth between yall.



But im pretty sure you can engineer a structure capable of surviving a landslide. Now take this with a grain of salt because i only ever took one cad course in college and the coursework of the civil engineers and mechanical engineers in the class scared me at the time. Their physics was on another level brehs


With that disclaimer being said, I'm pretty sure you could make a structure that can support itself independently of the hill that's prone to landslides by preemptively digging into the hill and fastening a foundation of steel and concrete under the hill and having a leg of the bridge grow upward from it. This would all be supported by the same tunneling equipment used by subways to prevent them from collapsing in earth quake prone cities like Tokyo, except it would be vertical instead of horizontal.



Again, as a computer guy I don't know how feasible this would be ; but after getting that foundation built you could be even more thorough by having connecting support beams to the free-standing pillars of the bridge. You should be able to calculate the exact amount of force of a potential landslide and the specific gravity of moist soil through cad software based on the composition of the Hill, and then select the thickness/material of the pillar accordingly.

I will just leave this to you and everyone else in this thread then, since we are all experts here apparently:

From TheColi’s new favorite toy, AI:

Modern bridge engineering can successfully mitigate landslide risk,
but success is highly dependent on the specific geological conditions, the type of landslide, and the chosen engineering strategy. While rapid, transversal landslides can sometimes be spanned by properly designed bridges, slow-moving landslides can inflict long-term damage on abutments and piers.

Key challenges and factors influencing success
The effectiveness of a bridge's engineering depends on several complex factors.

• Landslide characteristics: The type, velocity, and volume of a landslide significantly impact a bridge's vulnerability. Slow-moving, deep-seated landslides can be harder to detect and exert gradual, persistent pressure on a structure.
• Bridge age and design: Many older bridges were built without landslide-specific mitigation in mind and are more susceptible to damage. Retrofitting can be costly and difficult.
• Bridge-landslide orientation: The orientation of the bridge relative to the landslide's direction of movement is a critical factor. The structural response can vary substantially if the landslide is parallel or orthogonal to the bridge.
• Uncertainty and complexity: Landslides are highly complex phenomena, and models to predict their exact behavior and impact on bridges are not always universally applicable.

Case study example
In a notable case in Italy, a bridge collapsed despite years of monitoring and mitigation efforts, including anchors and drainage systems. The incident highlighted the challenge of stabilizing very large landslides, but the slow movement allowed for continuous monitoring, and the bridge was closed before its collapse, demonstrating the value of such systems.

Are you familiar with Seabees? One of my first mentors was a Seabee, so it would be me and him going to different locations doing site surveys. Him for electrical, me for copper/fiber. I learned a lot from him about some of the processes as well as just being there and going through it myself.

Basically, shyt like this is considered and planned for. It is even done for all the datacenters right? Risk assessments based off the location of the center right?

What I’m saying, in modern building, shyt like this is accounted for. They accepted the risk of putting a bridge there and made precautions because that stuff is now standard. Nobody is building shyt where they think it would be a high risk to do so. Doesn’t mean shyt can’t happen.


And for those who don’t like reading, you cannot always prepare for Mother Nature. No matter wtf you do, she does what she wants. They were aware apparently that it was going to happen, which is why no one was on the bridge. That would most likely mean it was a slow moving landslide. Has nothing to do with the incompetency of the engineers which is what that nikka is trying to suggest.

I think engineers deserve some more respect than that.