@chris.b along with most christians are going to hell anyway

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MANY religious people don't read the history nor understand their religions, so the ridiculous statement he made is not a revelation (no pun intended)

So how much have you read to make such a judgement call?
 

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One member should not of said it unless it were not true and he was not the only one who said that statement.
:wow: You have some misguided individuals make some erroneous statements that are contradictory to the actual religious texts and you want to use that as proof that Christians worship a different god than Muslims? I dunno what to say to that.

1) You're using one misguided group to support a claim
2) You aren't using the actual holy texts to make your argument

:wow:
 

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its called fanaticism and it has caused many many deaths over the years...they both worship the same God, whether you wanna accept it or not

Usually fanatics adhere more strictly than necessary. The problem lies with people adding rules to God's word (i.e Joseph Smith)
 

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So how much have you read to make such a judgement call?

That's not a judgement, that's a FACT based on historical trends. Do you believe that many people that convert to a religion do so under 100 percent comprehension of that religion's objectives, symbols, and history?
 

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I'm not really sure what you are getting at here to be honest. It doesn't relate to my comment that satan, if he exists, is part of the whole. And if he is part of the whole, he is part of god.
I'm not really sure what you are getting at here to be honest. It doesn't relate to my comment that satan, if he exists, is part of the whole. And if he is part of the whole, he is part of god.


You are saying Satan is apart of GOD

What I'm saying is that Satan's character is the complete absence of GOD
 

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Usually fanatics adhere more strictly than necessary. The problem lies with people adding rules to God's word (i.e Joseph Smith)
Fanatics are notorious for picking and choosing what parts of the text they want to believe in. If they were following the texts to a T, they wouldn't have made that statement.

But, :wow: at you using a fanatic to make your argument. That doesn't bode well...
 

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:wow: You have some misguided individuals make some erroneous statements that are contradictory to the actual religious texts and you want to use that as proof that Christians worship a different god than Muslims? I dunno what to say to that.

1) You're using one misguided group to support a claim
2) You aren't using the actual holy texts to make your argument

:wow:

The claim was made and they sincerely believe it. Making such a statement if we did worship the same god would be like saying your own mothers name wrong.

Certain things in this world you do not say in error. Your family members names and who you worship are very high on the list.
 

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You are saying Satan is apart of GOD

What I'm saying is that Satan's character is the complete absence of GOD
I don't see how something can be absent from the whole. Everything is part of absolute infinity. So, I can't agree with what you are saying at all. :manny:
 

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The claim was made and they sincerely believe it. Making such a statement if we did worship the same god would be like saying your own mothers name wrong.

Certain things in this world you do not say in error. Your family members names and who you worship are very high on the list.
Are you being sincere here, or are you trolling? I just can't imagine why you would use a radical to make your claim. It makes little sense to me. You should be using the holy texts themselves.
 

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Fanatics are notorious for picking and choosing what parts of the text they want to believe in. If they were following the texts to a T, they wouldn't have made that statement.

But, :wow: at you using a fanatic to make your argument. That doesn't bode well...

You say it doesn't bode well but you are not Christian or muslim but qualified to judge both based upon the scriptures in both...
 

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Are you being sincere here, or are you trolling? I just can't imagine why you would use a radical to make your claim. It makes little sense to me. You should be using the holy texts themselves.

A radical will fight to the death over what they believe. If they said it they believe it.
 

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You say it doesn't bode well but you are not Christian or muslim but qualified to judge both based upon the scriptures in both...

I've read most of the holy texts in full. I studied religion academically for years (although it was not my main focus). So, yes, I feel qualified to use the scriptures to make claims.

A radical will fight to the death over what they believe. If they said it they believe it.

:wow: I think you are trolling now. Radicals say a lot of things that have nothing to do with the religion. Why are you using a radical to make a claim? It doesn't make sense to me
 

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That's not a judgement, that's a FACT based on historical trends. Do you believe that many people that convert to a religion do so under 100 percent comprehension of that religion's objectives, symbols, and history?

Personally I believe people research things and not join something because it's the flavor of the month. I know the Textus Receptus is over 99% accurate. I checked the info out myself and not because someone claimed it.
 
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