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The Clippers have been worse for the entire franchise's existence so that obviously isn't true. I'd rather get rid of obvious dead weight like Pierce, Jamal, and Doc and trade Rivers for Melo before I get rid of a core that has sniffed good Playoff runs which have ended due to bullshyt. And the sixers being good is a matter of time. If in 5 years they still haven't made the playoffs and the grizzlies still make the playoffs can you say the same thing? And it's not as if we regressed we've actually gotten better this year with bench improvements.
not saying they should blow it up but they can turn these guys into assets. This is not the Sterling Clippers anymore, they have a good owner, and have changed the identity. They can some very good assets and rebuild. CP3 is not getting any younger, and who knows how Blake will be after these injuries. You can have 3-4 more seasons of good regular seasons and then team will be left with no assets and have to rebuild anyways
 

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Clippers haven't gone any farther with CP3, Blake & DeAndre than they did with Elton Brand, Chris Kaman & Corey Maggette.

I guess different strokes for different folks, cause I'd rather watch a lottery team led by young pieces that's trending in the right direction than watch a team led by guys either in their 30s or right around the corner from it that's already topped out.
You could easily be heading in the same direction though. Players in their peak are now "right around the corner"? Seems like a lot of to give up so you can more than likely get back in the same place 10 years later after a lot of hardships especially on the words of fans who put more stock in the potential of young players rather than FA.
 

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not saying they should blow it up but they can turn these guys into assets. This is not the Sterling Clippers anymore, they have a good owner, and have changed the identity. They can some very good assets and rebuild. CP3 is not getting any younger, and who knows how Blake will be after these injuries. You can have 3-4 more seasons of good regular seasons and then team will be left with no assets and have to rebuild anyways
Why? Other than CP who dudes keep going off their opinions of age no one is old that we're not willing to give up and replace. A long slow rebuild i stupid compared to getting younger players and slowly phasing your older players out like the spurs.
 

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You could easily be heading in the same direction though. Players in their peak are now "right around the corner"? Seems like a lot of to give up so you can more than likely get back in the same place 10 years later after a lot of hardships especially on the words of fans who put more stock in the potential of young players rather than FA.

It's more like a team with potential is more enticing than a team that has peaked and their peak was nowhere near good enough to actually win something meaningful.
 

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It's more like a team with potential is more enticing than a team that has peaked and their peak was nowhere near good enough to actually win something meaningful.
I'm not an optimist so seeing young players doesn't get my hype for more than likely nothing. Starting from scratch is stupid. We've been to the WCSF and beaten by a team that wasn't as good as us, we've lost in the first round due to injuries, we've lost a hard series to rivals who have since fallen off, and we've lost to a young team with some bad luck thrown in there. If we weren't the arguable second best team in the West I would agree, but the only thing I believe between us and a title is the golden state warriors who we haven't even had a chance to play. So you can keep throwing around the word peak, but I don't see you saying any other team should be blown up because of no championship and a star who hasn't begun to regress yet because he's in his early 30's is one of the best players on the team.
 

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Clips should've taken better advantage of the lakers downtime...
This.. LA will always be a Laker town, and don't get it twisted there are tons of Clipper fans out here but it kills me knowing we could've carved out a serious niche for ourselves over the past four years or so only to fall off when it counts the most:francis:

To keep it 100, I'm used to CP3 and Blake being out of action.. I been said- don't be surprised if these dudes injuries flare up on and off all the way to the end of the season. Lets cut the bullshyt, we know how this movie ends. Let's get Melo in a Clipper uniform.. real talk. Time for some changes.
 

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I'm not an optimist so seeing young players doesn't get my hype for more than likely nothing. Starting from scratch is stupid. We've been to the WCSF and beaten by a team that wasn't as good as us, we've lost in the first round due to injuries, we've lost a hard series to rivals who have since fallen off, and we've lost to a young team with some bad luck thrown in there. If we weren't the arguable second best team in the West I would agree, but the only thing I believe between us and a title is the golden state warriors who we haven't even had a chance to play. So you can keep throwing around the word peak, but I don't see you saying any other team should be blown up because of no championship and a star who hasn't begun to regress yet because he's in his early 30's is one of the best players on the team.

You say you're not an optimist but you're definitely more optimistic about the Clippers chances at making noise in the playoffs than me and a lot of people are, and you're definitely looking at all their playoff exits over the last 5 years with the view of glass half-full.

As far as me talking about teams being blown up, I feel the same way about the Hawks & Grizzlies :yeshrug:
 

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It's more like a team with potential is more enticing than a team that has peaked and their peak was nowhere near good enough to actually win something meaningful.

I'm going to disagree.

If your franchise has been successful during your lifetime then you're fine with rebuilding and going for it all rather the treadmilling.

However, if you're like the clippers franchise and haven't been shyt for most of your existence then having a team this good is sort of hard to pass up. There's no guarantee the draft will get them anyone good nor does it have a timetable for how long it will take to be this good again. Philly got a generational talent, every team doesn't get that.

2nd round and bust is sometimes better than "this team is shyt year in and year out and has nothing to show for it".

And it's also easier dealing with one of your team's shortcomings when another is successful so you actually put up with the rebuild. "Oh celtics are shyt? Well luckily those New England Patriots are in the AFC championship again". Not many fanbases got that luxury.
 

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Why? Other than CP who dudes keep going off their opinions of age no one is old that we're not willing to give up and replace. A long slow rebuild i stupid compared to getting younger players and slowly phasing your older players out like the spurs.
Maybe a small change in direction but not a complete rebuild-overhaul. Should've had a couple of youngsters on their third year or so coming up in the system coming behind Blake, DJ, and CP3 but Doc can't draft nor develop players for sh*t
 

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You say you're not an optimist but you're definitely more optimistic about the Clippers chances at making noise in the playoffs than me and a lot of people are, and you're definitely looking at all their playoff exits over the last 5 years with the view of glass half-full.

As far as me talking about teams being blown up, I feel the same way about the Hawks & Grizzlies :yeshrug:
Not really glass half full I'm looking at the facts. And I don't think we'll make noise I just want one fair chance to do so or fail before I become the worst poster on this forum :manny:

Maybe a small change in direction but not a complete rebuild-overhaul. Should've had a couple of youngsters on their third year or so coming up in the system coming behind Blake, DJ, and CP3 but Doc can't draft nor develop players for sh*t
He doesn't even try. In a better timeline Jamal would have been gone and CJ wilcox would've been getting his minutes. I swear without Doc we would ATLEAST be marginally better, but I think we'd be significantly better. He sucks as GM and coach. He gets new players and then doesn't even play them or try to integrate them into the system or play them in their right position and then their gone. We've had good bench players here and there too we just haven't been able to keep them.
 
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I'm going to disagree.

If your franchise has been successful during your lifetime then you're fine with rebuilding and going for it all rather the treadmilling.

However, if you're like the clippers franchise and haven't been shyt for most of your existence then having a team this good is sort of hard to pass up. There's no guarantee the draft will get them anyone good nor does it have a timetable for how long it will take to be this good again. Philly got a generational talent, every team doesn't get that.

2nd round and bust is sometimes better than "this team is shyt year in and year out and has nothing to show for it".

And it's also easier dealing with one of your team's shortcomings when another is successful so you actually put up with the rebuild. "Oh celtics are shyt? Well luckily those New England Patriots are in the AFC championship again". Not many fanbases got that luxury.

I guess I've just been spoiled as a fan because I really don't see the point of continually making short-sighted moves to appease a team that isn't good enough to win it all because you're scared of everything going wrong and being a perpetual lottery team :ld:

The same old shyt eventually gets tiring regardless, unless you're contending for titles every year
 
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