Chuck and Shaq go at it

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:russell:Barkley got ethered on this particular argument. Shaq is right.
Shaq killed his own argument when he said him and Pat Riley didn't get along and also admitted he was a role player in Miami. He was not the franchise player. Barkley's argument is you have to get along with the franchise player. Shaq said he was wrong and then proved he was right.
 
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I did.....did you? Cause you claim they were old and gave them nothing. Vinnie avg 21 in 29 mpg. How much more "microwave" does he have to be? Funny Rodman was cooked at 29 but after years of abusing his body with alcohol and coke, he was primed and ready to "help" MJ go for 3 more titles? Like I said, Zeke was younger than Curry is now and nobody is considering him or GSW too old. Quit trolling.

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... even though the Pistons were knocked out in the first round the next year and started missing the playoffs altogether afterwards.....

And you haven’t posted how old those 92 bulls were since you love google so much...... :childplease:
 

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Shaq just told the truth

1. Career avg 22 and 12....Looks a lot like Karl Anthony Towns
2. Shaq played with Kobe.....Yeah Shaq was clearly the person carrying that squad 3 Finals MVP
3. Barkley had Ainge, Kevin Johnson, Dan Majerle, Dumas.....He had talent this ain't in philly. They won 62 games. They lost. STOP LYING. If his fat ass wasn't playing golf with MJ up in scottsdale maybe he would have won. Ole tryna be friends ass face ass nikka.
List a druggie who was out of the league in 3 years brehs
 

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... even though the Pistons were knocked out in the first round the next year and started missing the playoffs altogether afterwards.....

And you haven’t posted how old those 92 bulls were since you love google so much...... :childplease:

The next year??? The fukk that gotta do with anything? You discount the previous year as champions but wanna put stock into what they did a whole 82 games later? And the avg age on the Bulls and the Pistons was both 27.2

Maybe you should Google before you start babbling about something you clearly don't know. Just regurgitating played out talking points.
 

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Shaq killed his own argument when he said him and Pat Riley didn't get along and also admitted he was a role player in Miami. He was not the franchise player. Barkley's argument is you have to get along with the franchise player. Shaq said he was wrong and then proved he was right.
Barkley didnt let Shaq finish though. Shaq had problems with Riley and Phil, and neither one coddled Shaq, whether they had to use the media to make a point/get at dude or not. Barkley on the other hand was never held accountable by his coaches in any aspect.
 

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Kobe Bryant, Phil Jackson, Pat Riley and Dwyane Wade. Shaq played more than 4 seasons. He had serious talent around him for many of those seasons and he could not get over the hump. He's an underachiever.
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Shaqs an underachiever? Can you name 10 NBA players that are consensus better than Shaq? Idk what you do for a living, but are you in the top 10 to ever do it? No? Sounds like you’re the underachiever breh.
 
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And the avg age on the Bulls and the Pistons was both 27.2
See, now you being disingenuous... Didn’t ask for “average” age... I said list their ages

Laimbeer was 33 or 34
Edwards may have been 36
Microwave was 34
Aguire was 31
Rodman May have been 30

These were key guys playing heavy minutes....

Yeah Zeke and Joe were like 27 to 29 respectively, but juxtapose that to the ages of Chicagos 7 to 8 guys....
 

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HERE ARE STATS AGAINST THE 3 TOUGHEST TEAMS LAKERS FACED DURING THE 3PEAT YEARS:

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at making this your case for Kobe

when
Kobe averaged well over 2 more minutes played
while having the less impressive stats



:hubie: but i’ll let you dudes cook :hubie:
 

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Shaq disrespectful. Can't stand nikkas that get emotional and try to yell over you.

One, Barkley wasn't a bum. In his prime he was good for 27 points and 10 rebounds a game.

Two, Shaq played with Penny, Kobe and Wade. Barkley didn't have talent like that in his prime.

Three, Barkley ran into Prime Jordan. Shaq ain't win shyt in the 90s. Got swept by Hakeem. Got swept by Jordan the next year. Then Utah made him their bytch for a few years. He had to wait until all the 90s greats got old and until Kobe got skilled enough to start dominating. Shaq talking all that shyt like he was dominating in that era.

I CANT BELIEVE SO MANY PPL DAPPED THIS BULLshyt.

SHAQ>>>BARKLEY
AND ITS NOT EVEN CLOSE.

22 YR OLD SHAQ MADE A FINALS WITH A 2ND YEAR PENNY
AS HIS NUMBER 2.

WAS HE SUPPOSED TO BEAT UTAH WITH AN 18-19 YEAR OLD KOBE?
21 YR OLD KOBE WASNT DOMINATING shyt IN 2000
WHEN SHAQ GOT HIS 1ST RING.

HE WON A CHIP WITH A 3RD YEAR DWADE.

SHAQ WAS DOMINATING IN THE 90S.

ALL THOSE DUDES YOU SAY GOT OLD
DIDNT WIN shyt WHEN THEY WERE SHAQS AGE.

HAKEEM DIDNT WIN UNTIL HE WAS 31
BUT YOU shytTING ON A 22 YR OLD SHAQ
FOR LOSING THE FINALS.

BARKLEY DIDNT MAKE THE FINALS UNTIL HE WAS 30.

MALONE DIDNT MAKE THE FINALS UNTIL HE WAS 33.

SHAQ WON HIS 1ST CHIP AT 28.

YOU AND WHOEVER DAPPED THAT DUMB ASS POST SOUND STUPID.
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How do you never work like you ‘shouldve’ but end up being; a top 10 player of all time, 3 times Final MVP and 4 time champ???

When you’re the most dominant physical talent in the history of the sport, that’s how.
 

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See, now you being disingenuous... Didn’t ask for “average” age... I said list their ages

Laimbeer was 33 or 34
Edwards may have been 36
Microwave was 34
Aguire was 31
Rodman May have been 30

These were key guys playing heavy minutes....

Yeah Zeke and Joe were like 27 to 29 respectively, but juxtapose that to the ages of Chicagos 7 to 8 guys....

Rodman was 29

And the Bulls top 8:

MJ 27
Pip 25
Grant 25
Cartwright 33
BJ 23
Paxon, Levingston, and Hodges 30

Congratulations, you played yourself. The favorites to win the title this year are the Warriors (avg age 28.12), Cavs (28), and Houston (27.81). All older than this "old" Pistons squad and nobody will call any of those teams too old.
 

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I CANT BELIEVE SO MANY PPL DAPPED THIS BULLshyt.

SHAQ>>>BARKLEY
AND ITS NOT EVEN CLOSE.

22 YR OLD SHAQ MADE A FINALS WITH A 2ND YEAR PENNY
AS HIS NUMBER 2.

WAS HE SUPPOSED TO BEAT UTAH WITH AN 18-19 YEAR OLD KOBE?
21 YR OLD KOBE WASNT DOMINATING shyt IN 2000
WHEN SHAQ GOT HIS 1ST RING.

HE WON A CHIP WITH A 3RD YEAR DWADE.

SHAQ WAS DOMINATING IN THE 90S.

ALL THOSE DUDES YOU SAY GOT OLD
DIDNT WIN shyt WHEN THEY WERE SHAQS AGE.

HAKEEM DIDNT WIN UNTIL HE WAS 31
BUT YOU shytTING ON A 22 YR OLD SHAQ
FOR LOSING THE FINALS.

BARKLEY DIDNT MAKE THE FINALS UNTIL HE WAS 30.

MALONE DIDNT MAKE THE FINALS UNTIL HE WAS 33.

SHAQ WON HIS 1ST CHIP AT 28.

YOU WHOEVER DAPPED THAT DUMB ASS POST SOUND STUPID.
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Shaq being better than Barkley =/= Barkley was a bum who deserves to be disrespected on live TV and have his opinions shot down like that. Barkley is a legend in his own right. He deserves atleast a modicum of respect.

Shaq was actually 23 in the 1995 Finals. Get your years right. Hakeem gave him a lesson on the Dream Shake and swept him.

In 1996 Jordan and the Bulls swept him again.

Shaq goes to LA.

In 1997, Karl Malone and the Jazz send him home packing in the playoffs.

In 1998, Karl Malone and the Jazz send him home packing again.

In 1999, David Robinson and Duncan send him home packing again.

Shaq didn’t win shyt until Kobe got good. He also won after the Bulls era was over and after Jordan retired and after Hakeem, Robinson, Ewing and the other 90s bigs were on their way out in the 2000s. He funny talking big shyt with Barkley when Barkley NEVER had a Kobe or a Wade to play with. Shaq got to play against the Sixers, the Nets and the Pacers to get his rings. Barkley’s only shot at a ring was against the BEST fukkING BASKETBALL PLAYER OF ALL TIME :what: And like I said, from 1992 - 1999 Shaq wasn’t winning shyt either in the 90s. He talking to Chuck like he was winning rings then :what: He lucked out being young enough to last into the next decade.

And one more time, having Penny, Wade and Kobe meant this nikka Shaq got to play with the 2nd and 3rd best shooting guards of all time and another player who could’ve been all time great if the injuries didnt get him. Barkley ain’t have all that.

FOH.
 
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Get off Coli Mike , all those teams had injuries to their star players consistently and were burnt out due to the constant Finals run. not to mention you cried to Stern to have the rules changed :duck:

The Celtics that the pistons beat in 1988 were old and "burnt out from constant finals runs" the lakers the pistons beat in 1989 had 42 year old kareem,magic injured in the 1st half of game 2 and missed the rest of the series & scott missed the whole series. So isiah/pistons couldn't win until his comp(lakers and celtics) got old either. See how this stupid logic can backfire?

Lakers were old, Celts were old. Mahorn, Laimbeer, old. The Pistons went through vicious championship runs playing the Lakers and Celtics. They had nothing left.

Mahorn wasn't even on that team fam. Zeke,dumars,salley,rodman all 28 or younger the oldest dude on that team(vinnie) led them in scoring that series

Bulls ended their chapter they were good enough to get to the ecf and beat a 2nd seed by doing that, stop regurgitating what you read online.
 
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