GPBear
The Tape Crusader
If Chuck played with Kobe and D Wade he'd be a fat champion too.
Shaq is one of my favorite players...I just want to start some shyt
Look how well that worked out for Karl Malone
Chuck and Shaq go at it
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Look how well that worked out for Karl Malone
Field Marshall Bradley
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So that bulls squad was blatantly younger than the older Pistons squad.... and what do the Warriors have to do with this...?
Shaq being better than Barkley =/= Barkley was a bum who deserves to be disrespected on live TV and have his opinions shot down like that. Barkley is a legend in his own right. He deserves atleast a modicum of respect.
Shaq was actually 23 in the 1995 Finals. Get your years right. Hakeem gave him a lesson on the Dream Shake and swept him.
In 1996 Jordan and the Bulls swept him again.
Shaq goes to LA.
In 1997, Karl Malone and the Jazz send him home packing in the playoffs.
In 1998, Karl Malone and the Jazz send him home packing again.
In 1999, David Robinson and Duncan send him home packing again.
Shaq didn’t win shyt until Kobe got good. He also won after the Bulls era was over and Jordan retired and after Hakeem, Robinson, Ewing and the other 90s bigs were on their way out in the 2000s. He funny talking big shyt with Barkley when Barkley NEVER had a Kobe or a Wade to play with and when Shaq got to play against the Sixers, the Nets and the Pacers to get his rings. Barkley’s only shot at a ring was against the BEST fukkING BASKETBALL PLAYER OF ALL TIMEAnd like I said, from 1992 - 1999 Shaq wasn’t winning shyt either in the 90s.
THAT WASNT BARKLEYS SHOT AT A RING.MJ RETIRED RIGHT AFTER
SO THE SUNS HAD EVERY OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE OVER THE LEAGUE.
INSTEAD THE SUNS BLEW A 2-0 LEAD
AFTER WINNING THE 1ST 2 GAMES IN HOUSTON IN 94.
THEN IN 1995
THE SUNS BLEW A 3-1 LEAD ON HOUSTON.
THIS IS THE nikka YOU CAPING FOR?SHAQ GOT TO THE FINALS WITH A 2ND YEAR PENNY
(28, 13 & 6 v. HAKEEM)
AND
WON HIS 1ST RING AT 28
WHEN KOBE WASNT A DOMINANT PLAYER YET.
What does avg age of 27.2 and 27.2 screams "blatantly younger" to you? GSW has been to 3 straight Finals and the average is 28.12....where's the narrative that they are old? That's what it has to do with this. Your narrative is flawed and its clear you're trolling now.
MJ RETIRED RIGHT AFTER
SO THE SUNS HAD EVERY OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE OVER THE LEAGUE.
INSTEAD THE SUNS BLEW A 2-0 LEAD
AFTER WINNING THE 1ST 2 GAMES IN HOUSTON IN 94.
THEN IN 1995
THE SUNS BLEW A 3-1 LEAD ON HOUSTON.
SHAQ GOT TO THE FINALS WITH A 2ND YEAR PENNY
AND
WON HIS 1ST RING AT 28
WHEN KOBE WASNT A DOMINANT PLAYER YET.
Kobe was more “dominant” than Eddie Jones and Nick Van Exel
otherwise than Jazz losses in 1997 & 1998 would’ve went the other way. So Barkley lost to the literal GOAT of this basketball shyt and to a Prime Hakeem playing out of his mind. Whereas Shaq got to feast on the Pacers, the Nets and the Sixers. Completely the same right
Give Barkley a Penny/Wade/Kobe and maybe he gets a ring or two. Give the ‘93 Suns a Finals matchup with the early 2000s Sixers, Pacers or Nets and he probably gets one too
at making this your case for Kobe
when
Kobe averaged well over 2 more minutes played
while having the less impressive stats
but i’ll let you dudes cook
KOBE IS RANKED 1 IN 3/5 OF THOSE LOL - AND THATS BASED ON STATS
MORE IMPORTANTLY, LOOK AT THE HUGE DROP OFF FROM KOBE-SHAQ TO THE REST - INCREDIBLE
Field Marshall Bradley
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I’m not going back to read my posts, but I don’t think I said anything about Golden state. I was replying to the fact that you were dismissing that the Bad Boys got old and that’s when the Bulls broke thru... which is fact..... even google says it.....
Kobe was more “dominant” than Eddie Jones and Nick Van Exel
So Barkley lost to the literal GOAT of this basketball shyt and to a Prime Hakeem playing out of his mind. Whereas Shaq got to feast on the Pacers, the Nets and the Sixers. Completely the same right
Give Barkley a Penny/Wade/Kobe and maybe he gets a ring or two. Give the ‘93 Suns a Finals matchup with the early 2000s Sixers, Pacers or Nets and he probably gets one too
LOOK AT THIS GOAL POST MOVE.NOW WE JUST GONNA OVER LOOK
2 OF THE BIGGEST CHOKE JOBS EVER
AND DISMISS IT AS HAKEEM PLAYING OUT OF HIS MIND.
HE ALSO LOST THE 1ST 2 GAMES
WITH HOME COURT VS CHICAGO.
DUDE WAS A CHOKER.
MISS ME WITH ALL THAT IMAGINARY TEAMMATE shyt.
HE HAD BETTER TEAMS THAN HAKEEM.
KOBE WAS THE ONE SHOOTING 4 AIRBALLS AGAINST UTAHON THAT JONES/VAN EXEL TEAM.
IF SHAQ HAD PHIL JACKSON EARLIER
THOSE LAKER TEAMS WOULD HAVE WON THE WEST.
SHAQ AVERAGED 31, 15, 3 & 2 ON THAT 2000 TITLE RUN.
NOT SURE WHY YOU MENTIONING FINALS MATCHUPS.
SHAQ WAS 100 PERCENT RIGHT IN THIS DEBATE.
BARKLEY WAS A BIG BABY,
AND A LAZY CHOKER.
THATS WHY HE NEVER WON A RING.
HERE ARE STATS AGAINST THE 3 TOUGHEST TEAMS LAKERS FACED DURING THE 3PEAT YEARS:
Are you trying to say that this proves that Kobe carried shaq?
Cuz.... breh....
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You can tell Shaq has had insecurity issues/complex about his size all his life. S*** is so transparent with this dude. All that was missing from his mush mouth debate style was his classic "do you wanna fight" at the end . I'm not saying c00n Barkley is that much better but in a chill debate here comes this dude yelling over everyone 
. I'm not saying c00n Barkley is that much better but in a chill debate here comes this dude yelling over everyone 
Phil demanded kobe be traded. retired cuz of kobe and wrote a book bashing him
Then came back cuz of an offer he could not refuse
Are you trying to say that this proves that Kobe carried shaq?
Cuz.... breh....
THAT KOBE’S WORKLOAD WAS A HUGE PART OF IT AND CHARLES NEVER HAD THAT KINDA HELP .........
That's why I watch so rarely now. It just ruins the flow of the show. Dude can't just debate for shyt. The worst part is, I think Shaq is right, but who in the fukk wants to listen to all that screaming. Like damn, yall will both get a turnShaq always gotta be personalhe ruins the show with his bs
I dont believe its that simple. Its not like they were going to win without Derozen. you go with your best players, in this situation. I understand what Casey was trying to do, but its bigger than one game. What Chuck is saying is kinda like when Brown took out Simmons the other night but he put him back in. This is a sport of confidence. Would Sixers make the playoffs without Simmons? Ok, then. How good is Raps without Derozen. Do they win 40 games even?
suppose they pull that game out with Derozen on the bench? how is his confidence the next game? do the Raps go on to win the series? everyone already knew they were headed for a damn sweep yet you put an All NBA player on the bench. Remember when McHale benched Harden?
I am not blasting Casey's decision, but in this league, you live and die with however your stars are playing and accept that. nikka wasnt coming back to beat the Cavs 4 games they way the Cavs were ballin.