Ciara laughs after she's asked about co-parenting with Future

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I see numerous posts talking about her poor choice. No denying that. But is being a poor choice a good thing? Sure she gotta deal with the consequences of making a poor choice but isnt actually being the poor choice worse? Isnt being (we are all guessing here) a deadbeat a bad thing? Just because she made a poor choice is she not allowed to recognize it now? She didnt even say anything. Everyone is interpreting what they want from her laugh. I could ser if she was bashing him or begging or crying for sympathy. She got a whole new family and the child is being taken care of so why cant she giggle if she wants? :heh:
Yes being the poor choice is worse. Still, you don't let the person off the hook who knowingly chose that poor choice. Neither one are free of any responsibility in this situation, since both contribute to it. She was his 3rd baby momma, not his 1st. She knew he was a poor choice going into the relationship, yet she still gave him a child. She gets no sympathy from me doing that crap, just like he gets no sympathy from me being a drug using deadbeat dad.
 

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Exactly

Side note- It’s wild that the Future/Ciara/Russ thing *still* gets the computers putin’ on here when Future and Ciara ain’t been together in almost a decade :pachaha:
Not really when you consider that its a perfect illustration of modern dating and the issues most folks have. You got the charismatic rogue that young women cant resist. You got the attractive (and flexible :shaq:) young woman that falls for said rogue. You got the nice guy that most women aint checkin for if he aint rich/famous. You got the baby daddy/ step daddy dynamic. You got the chicks cheering for the fact she was not only able to rebound but come up. You got dudes mad about it because they want her to suffer forever because they see themselves as a Russ that isnt an elite athlete or the dudes that align with Future and are mad because...well...I dont know why :russ:.
 

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Yes being the poor choice is worse. Still, you don't let the person off the hook who knowingly chose that poor choice. Neither one are free of any responsibility in this situation, since both contribute to it. She was his 3rd baby momma, not his 1st. She knew he was a poor choice going into the relationship, yet she still gave him a child. She gets no sympathy from me doing that crap, just like he gets no sympathy from me being a drug using deadbeat dad.
What hook is there to put her on? Who is asking for sympathy? The baby is taken care of and she seems happy so why dwell on the mistake that she has clearly bounced back from?
 

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What hook is there to put her on? Who is asking for sympathy? The baby is taken care of and she seems happy so why dwell on the mistake that she has clearly bounced back from?
Yes, the baby is taken care of since she also has her own money. Here is the problem, she is a representative of too many women who are making poor decisions by having children with deadbeat fathers. She is also the inspiration of many of those women to hope for a man like Russell Wilson to come save them, when the chances of that happening are near nil.

Though she was capable of overcoming her poor decision, many women are not and end up barely being able to take care of themselves let alone the child they knowingly birthed with a man who is incapable, unwilling, and/or uncaring enough to take care of the child he produced. Then we end up with the heinous stats of child abuse, poor test scores, and tragic outcomes leading to prison time. That cycle repeats itself, while a new generation of poor decision makers are raised up.

So no, she represents an outcome that is not at all normally possible for the majority of women who have done what she has done to achieve. So I would rather her actually just point out that the circumstances between her, Future, and their child are troublesome, but they (her and her husband) work through them. A silly immature laugh is definitely not the right response to a question about a circumstance she helped create. It is not the response other impressionable women need to see.
 
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Future's level is repeatedly trashing her in the press and dragging her and her husband in his music. Her choosing to laugh instead of answering is probably the least offensive thing she could have done other than just ending the interview right there.

Can’t believe this has to be explained
 

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That laugh should have been what she did when he was first trying to get with her. See, Future already had children by two other women he was not taking care of before he met Ciara. She knew this, he was famous already and it was known by all. She still decided to be baby momma number 3. So yes, she found a good man to take care of her, but her problem with Future is one that she contributed to. She should have never had a child for him, knowing he was a damn deadbeat dad 2 times over already and a drug user.
Well she did and had to deal with the aftermath publicly(which was a decade ago at this point).
Nah you’re just one of the many (male & female) posters on here who refuse to hold both genders accountable.

No amount of trying to paint me as supporting that dead beat dad will work. I’ve stated my stance on him in here.

Here's the disconnect. Ciara being embarrassed on a public stage for her choice in men at the time and being left WAS her accountability. Having to raise that baby alone is MOST single mom's accountability but y'all don't think that's enough. You want more but Ciara is the perfect example of a woman who made a poor decision and course corrected almost immediately. Why is Ciara's burden of "accountability" so high but Future's so low??
 

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Well she did and had to deal with the aftermath publicly(which was a decade ago at this point).


Here's the disconnect. Ciara being embarrassed on a public stage for her choice in men at the time and being left WAS her accountability. Having to raise that baby alone is MOST single mom's accountability but y'all don't think that's enough. You want more but Ciara is the perfect example of a woman who made a poor decision and course corrected almost immediately. Why is Ciara's burden of "accountability" so high but Future's so low??
I think you misunderstood my statement. She should have laughed him off when he approached her for a relationship. She definitely did not do that, since Future Jr. is here. Laughing at the question now displays quite a bit of immaturity on her part, since she is also the source of the problem since she chose to have a child with Future.

She should answer the question with a bit more maturity, pointing out the continued problems that she overcomes with the aid of her husband (BTW that she prayed to her God for).
 

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Not stooping to future level :manny:

She & Russ have done a great job. That interview & over the top laughing was petty & beneath her.

Not sure why y’all see a problem with calling her out. Leave the filth(Future) where he is.

The posters in here need accountability too. Always excuses depending on what side of that gender war bs they fall on
Future DESERVED to be laughed at.
 

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Not really when you consider that its a perfect illustration of modern dating and the issues most folks have. You got the charismatic rogue that young women cant resist. You got the attractive (and flexible :shaq:) young woman that falls for said rogue. You got the nice guy that most women aint checkin for if he aint rich/famous. You got the baby daddy/ step daddy dynamic. You got the chicks cheering for the fact she was not only able to rebound but come up. You got dudes mad about it because they want her to suffer forever because they see themselves as a Russ that isnt an elite athlete or the dudes that align with Future and are mad because...well...I dont know why :russ:.
LOL @ this fantasy.

As if Ciara would've cared about Future if he was poor and not famous :dead:
 

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Yes, the baby is taken care of since she also has her own money. Here is the problem, she is a representative of too many women who are making poor decisions by having children with deadbeat fathers. She is also the inspiration of many of those women to hope for a man like Russell Wilson to come save them, when the chances of that happening are near nil.

Though she was capable of overcoming her poor decision, many women are not and end up barely being able to take care of themselves let alone the child they knowingly birthed with a man who is incapable, unwilling, and/or uncaring enough to take care of the child he produced. Then we end up with the heinous stats of child abuse, poor test scores, and tragic outcomes leading to prison time. That cycle repeats itself, while a new generation of poor decision makers are raised up.

So no, she represents an outcome that is not at all normally possible for the majority of women who have done what she has done to achieve. So I would rather her actually just point out that the circumstances between her, Future, and their child are troublesome, but they (her and her husband) work through them. A silly immature laugh is definitely not the right response to a question about a circumstance she helped create. It is not the response other impressionable women need to see.
I agree that celebs should be more thoughtful about the example they set. I also undetstand that its not realistic to expect that from all of them. That said, chicks been getting knocked up by Futures since forever. Nobody who wasnt going down that road anyway looked at Ciara and said "Let me try that". All the wild shyt these chicks (her included) pull for clout, I dont see a giggle as that problematic but thats me :manny:. Lastly, based on all you said I trust you have even more smoke and hooks for Mr. Multiple Baby Mamas Promoting Crimes I Dont Commit and Drugs I Dont Do right?
 

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I agree that celebs should be more thoughtful about the example they set. I also undetstand that its not realistic to expect that from all of them. That said, chicks been getting knocked up by Futures since forever. Nobody who wasnt going down that road anyway looked at Ciara and said "Let me try that". All the wild shyt these chicks (her included) pull for clout, I dont see a giggle as that problematic but thats me :manny:. Lastly, based on all you said I trust you have even more smoke and hooks for Mr. Multiple Baby Mamas Promoting Crimes I Dont Commit and Drugs I Dont Do right?
All through out my responses in this thread I have been throwing digs at him. I already said he was a known deadbeat, drug users, who is unfit to be a father. Your need to protect her so intently has you ignoring what I said about him and those like him.

Neither of them are worthy of this defense you are putting up, but I see your defense is only for one side of the problem and not the other. Both contribute to the problem, it is just that we as a community were only willing to call out one side until pretty recently. Now that the light is being placed on the females that contribute to the problem, we have people running interference trying to stop the blame being rightfully placed at the feet of all involved.

So in the case of her problems with Future, she and Future are both responsible for them. She could have easily avoided the problem, but chose not to. So I will lay blame at both of their doorsteps, because they are to blame for the circumstances surrounding their child.
 

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I know just the thought of Future and all the lil slick comments he makes drive Russ crazy…

Especially since this nice guy shyt is all an act and dude is actually a full blown bully.
 

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All through out my responses in this thread I have been throwing digs at him. I already said he was a known deadbeat, drug users, who is unfit to be a father. Your need to protect her so intently has you ignoring what I said about him and those like him.

Neither of them are worthy of this defense you are putting up, but I see your defense is only for one side of the problem and not the other. Both contribute to the problem, it is just that we as a community were only willing to call out one side until pretty recently. Now that the light is being placed on the females that contribute to the problem, we have people running interference trying to stop the blame being rightfully placed at the feet of all involved.

So in the case of her problems with Future, she and Future are both responsible for them. She could have easily avoided the problem, but chose not to. So I will lay blame at both of their doorsteps, because they are to blame for the circumstances surrounding their child.
Am I defending or just not tripping over a giggle? There is no defense for either. But I am not gonna trip if he giggles either. We really dont disagree beyond how big a deal her laugh was. I appreciate your POV and the dialogue breh.
 

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thread did #s :russ:

not for nothing none of us know the truth of their relationship. relationships in general hard AF. usually for common folk the kid loses in this situation. it should be celebrated that future JR destined to b a winner. if he rap or on the field he can't lose :salute:
 
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