those owner convos have to be awkward as hell I can't see some Microsoft billionaire giving a single fukk about team operations/roster moves
CJ McCollum on KD's decision: "I would rather get swept than do anything of that nature"
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Bryan Danielson
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The fans did this shyt
If NBA fans were willing to respect making the playoffs or conference championships the way NFL fans respect making the playoffs or winning the AFC/NFC championships and MLB fans respect pennants, none of this shyt would have ever gone down.
But we don't. And that's fine - that's a choice made by the majority of the fans - I can't knock that. It is what it is.
But choices have consequences. Players don't want to be scoffed at and disrespected by fans for the rest of their lives (remember, they usually retire at what, 35? they've still got 50+ years of life to live) because no matter how hard they tried and how much they produced, they never won a championship.
So we get super teams.
Exactly.... cats sitting over here on the fake high horses like “well if players like KD and Bron were real.... they should’ve stayed on their teams and continue to waste their careers away” type shyt and pretend that they’d really respect that.
When the truth is.... if Bron would’ve never left Cavs and KD was still on OKC and neither had rings now but still putting up same numbers, no one would respect them like that.
Further proof, as great as Barkley was he’s the fukking punchline of jokes and poster boy of talented NBA superstar that NEVER won.
These cats see that shyt and no one wanna end up like Barkley, Malone, Miller, and a bunch of other ringless legends
Martha
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KD is also a mvp, finals mvp with soon to be a 2x Champion and part of the newest dynasty on one of the all time great squads that has stopped the 2nd best player in the world from 2 rings and will make Cleveland lose millions upon millions in revenue when Bron leaves.
While CJ is tweating from the couch.
panopticon
Superstar
There's also something to be said for how American culture has changed in the past 30 years with respect to how we view living in "non-major" cities.
It wasn't so important to live on the coasts/ in a major city before. Economic opportunity was more spread out across the country - sure there were the bright lights of NYC and LA, but aside from that, there wasn't nearly as much regional inequality as there is now.
Small markets are at a much greater disadvantage now than ever before - US economic growth is concentrated in just a few regions of the country, with the rest of it more or less either stagnating or slowly eroding (places like Cleveland, Milwaukee, Detroit, Indiana, etc.).
With the rise of genuine, unrestricted free agency, even with the higher income taxes in desirable locations, players know that they can do extremely well for themselves off the court in those locations - more than making up for what they lose to taxation PLUS enjoying all the advantages of being somewhere where everybody wants to live.
Additionally, you have to think about what sort of management/coaching staff smaller markets are able to attract to help draft and develop good players. In order to attract front office talent on the level of the larger cities, they end up having to seriously overpay - putting further strain on teams that are already at a disadvantage due to their location. There's no way that the Indiana Pacers, no matter how beloved they might be, can charge what the Knicks or the Celtics or the Lakers are able to charge for season tickets - irrespective of team performance. There's just more people, and more money, chasing those seats in those locations than there are in Indianapolis.
I don't know if the NBA has any plans for how to deal with this moving forward, but it seems like it'd be a really important thing to be concerned about.
It wasn't so important to live on the coasts/ in a major city before. Economic opportunity was more spread out across the country - sure there were the bright lights of NYC and LA, but aside from that, there wasn't nearly as much regional inequality as there is now.
Small markets are at a much greater disadvantage now than ever before - US economic growth is concentrated in just a few regions of the country, with the rest of it more or less either stagnating or slowly eroding (places like Cleveland, Milwaukee, Detroit, Indiana, etc.).
With the rise of genuine, unrestricted free agency, even with the higher income taxes in desirable locations, players know that they can do extremely well for themselves off the court in those locations - more than making up for what they lose to taxation PLUS enjoying all the advantages of being somewhere where everybody wants to live.
Additionally, you have to think about what sort of management/coaching staff smaller markets are able to attract to help draft and develop good players. In order to attract front office talent on the level of the larger cities, they end up having to seriously overpay - putting further strain on teams that are already at a disadvantage due to their location. There's no way that the Indiana Pacers, no matter how beloved they might be, can charge what the Knicks or the Celtics or the Lakers are able to charge for season tickets - irrespective of team performance. There's just more people, and more money, chasing those seats in those locations than there are in Indianapolis.
I don't know if the NBA has any plans for how to deal with this moving forward, but it seems like it'd be a really important thing to be concerned about.
panopticon
Superstar
The way Barkley gets treated is just fukking shameful, breh.
Should he have worked harder and stayed in better shape? Sure.
But the reality is he really was a fukking one of a kind, spectacular basketball player who never should have been able to achieve what he did at his height and at his position.
That picture of him after Shaq shyts on him for being ringless...you can tell that shyt hurts his soul. He's from an era where there was an understanding that basketball is a team sport, and players in his era had little to no control over their destinies.
Bryan Danielson
Jmare007 x Bryan Danielson x JLova = King Ghidorah
If you would’ve told me 15 years ago that cats would be shytting on Barkley, disrespecting him, and acting like he’s a bum..... I would’ve never believed you
Martha
U mad. U mad as fukkHow did you see that from my posts. Seems like a reach from a sad LeStan
Rigby.
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Adding a star to a team that has to put all their focus behind just stealing a game in the first round wouldn’t create a super team lolHe was on twitter a couple weeks ago talking bout how they need to bring another star to Portland tho
Its not the rings that matter, its how you get the rings. JOrdan and kobe put their all in the game. KD will never get that respect cause he had curry, klay and draymond (defensively) to pick up the slack. This will be the narrative of his career. Even pistons fans will call jordan the goat. Kd doesnt get props from anybody outside of the golden state bandwagon. And i been a warriors fan since i was ten (oakland born n raised). I aint even trippin tho. Its good for the town. They probably might not get any more rings once they move to gay ass frisco
After getting swept by a lower seed
Bryan Danielson
Jmare007 x Bryan Danielson x JLova = King Ghidorah
Na doubtful..... no one is gonna care..... just like how now the narrative for Kobe to a degree is that HE singlehandedly won all 5 rings and Shaq starts to fade out the narrative.
Or how Brady’s early SB were off the strength of being a game manager and letting his Defense and Special teams do the work.-
A few years from now no one will look down at anything KD done.... cuz he’s a champ and that’s all that matters
Martha
nikka you just said in the previous post that horry and russell has all those rings but no one seems to care lol that will be the narrative for kd too. If anything, the narrative will be more about the warriors, like how folks speak about how great the spurs were, and not the individual superstar
levitate
I love you, you know.
Yep, he's all those things...and still a weak ass bytch.
Not debating his talent. He's one of the greatest. But he's still a bytch.
levitate
I love you, you know.
All these Pay Area lurkers coming out of nowhere to defend KD's bytch made behavior.
Thought y'all dude's were harder than that...
Sad!
Thought y'all dude's were harder than that...
Sad!
Say what you want but as a star player running to the best team in the league is weak. I can understand if you were in the twillight of your career but in your prime? It's weak. And I felt the same way when Bron did it.
