Classics Discussion: Notorious B.I.G., Digable Planets & Mos Def

Which of these B.I.G., Digable Planets and Mos Def albums are classic?

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JayBaldacci said:
I'm Black. what's that have to do with those songs being blatant jiggy records?
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u ever heard of the tunnel ?
the greatest hip hop club that ever existed.

do u wanna know how many times
hypnotize was played
mo money was played
getting jiggy was played

:comeon:
 
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kingofnyc said:
u ever heard of the tunnel ?
the greatest hip hop club that ever existed.

do u wanna know how many times
hypnotize was played
mo money was played
getting jiggy was played

:comeon:
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probably because will smith was corny and big wasn't. that doesn't change the format of those records or the videos they shot for them.
 
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kingofnyc said:
u ever heard of the tunnel ?
the greatest hip hop club that ever existed.

do u wanna know how many times
hypnotize was played
mo money was played
getting jiggy was played

:comeon:
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Are you saying Getting Jiggy was getting played at the Tunnel? :jbhmm:
Get robbed in the bathroom while Getting Jiggy With It is playing brehs :lolbron:
 
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Inspect Her Deck said:
Ok what are your barometers for rating something a classic?

My first thing is quality. It must pass the quality barrier.
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I'm worry about the quality when we talk about masterpieces, or quality albums...I think there is a difference between those
and "classics". Something can be a "classic" and not a be a "masterpiece", and vice wersa...but most of the time "masterpieces"
are considered "classics", which is where it gets muddy.

Inspect Her Deck said:
Das EFX's first album is one of the most important and influential in hip-hop, but it doesn't have the quality imo.
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...like this for example. Dead Serious is not a "masterpiece", but it is absolutely a "classic".
That mugg was a GAME CHANGER. People know that chit, and not just "Mic Checka" and "They Want EFX".
Folks know "Looseys" (for better or for worse, ROFL)...and that's one of those albums that most niccas had, no
matter where they were from or what they were doing. You can see the influence it had on other rappers during that time.

BmoreGorilla said:
If that's the criteria your using for classic albums than theres a very very short list of classic albums. If your not a huge Redman fan theres no way your quoting those songs. We all kno The Score is a classic but other than the singles I cant give you one quote from that album. Why? Becuz I was never a fan of the Fugees and that album was bigger than any album Redman thought about making
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See above.

I think there is a long list of "classics", but I think there is a short list of "masterpieces".

You hit the nail on the head with The Score. Hella folks bought that, but so? Like you yourself say "other
than the singles I can't give you one quote from that album". Me neither. And I never cared enough to re-listen,
(except for "Cowboys") and I bet most people are in the same boat as you and I. So what the hell is notable
about it to where it is "classic" status?

Redwing80 said:
Every rappers album is not about making a transition. You know better than to make a generalization like that

Ready To Die is purely about Biggie being broke, depressed and trying to make money. Life After Death has 0 songs about him being poor. I gave you examples before. Mo Money Mo Problems, You're Nobody Till Somebody Kills You, Love The Dough etc have the same theme. So how is it filler? How can a song trading bars with Jay Z be made for filler? That makes sense to you?

You thinking that it's as good as Brooklyn's Finest is completely irrelevant. Guess your opinion of filler is songs you don't like.
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Word? Every song on Ready To Die is about being broke? What about "One More Chance"?
That ain't about him being "broke, depressed and trying to make money"...matter of fact, on that he tells you he's the Player President!
That doesn't fit with the rest of that...

And by your logic, "Juicy" should be on Life After Death.

Life After Death doesn't have any songs about being poor? What about "Fuccin' You Tonight"?

And I didn't say "I Love The Dough" is as good as Brooklyn's Finest. I said "Brooklyn's Finest" was better.
Here's why that's not "irrelevant" - most of the world heard "Brooklyn's Finest" and thought it was dope.
Next, we hear they got a track together on Big's album and Mo Bee did the beat. We was expecting some hard chit,
and we got the lazy sample with the re-flipped hook and empty rhymes about being rich. Those three coulda did better than that
on this "5-mic" album. And that song sounds even worse in between ultra-dope songs like "Last Day" and "What's Beef".

My opinion of filler isn't "songs I don't like"...as I said before, I don't even think filler songs are necessarily bad.
But there is such a thing as a song that doesn't fit with the rest of the album - not just topically, but sonically -
and Life After Death has some.
 
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If you haven't listened to Blowout Comb, it's nothing to brag about. You need to make an effort to listen to it as soon as possible. It's definitely one of the greatest hip hop albums ever made, and still sounds fresh to this day.

9th Wonder Vid



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Taadow said:
Word? Every song on Ready To Die is about being broke? What about "One More Chance"?
That ain't about him being "broke, depressed and trying to make money"...matter of fact, on that he tells you he's the Player President!
That doesn't fit with the rest of that...

And by your logic, "Juicy" should be on Life After Death.

Life After Death doesn't have any songs about being poor? What about "Fuccin' You Tonight"?

And I didn't say "I Love The Dough" is as good as Brooklyn's Finest. I said "Brooklyn's Finest" was better.
Here's why that's not "irrelevant" - most of the world heard "Brooklyn's Finest" and thought it was dope.
Next, we hear they got a track together on Big's album and Mo Bee did the beat. We was expecting some hard chit,
and we got the lazy sample with the re-flipped hook and empty rhymes about being rich. Those three coulda did better than that
on this "5-mic" album. And that song sounds even worse in between ultra-dope songs like "Last Day" and "What's Beef".

My opinion of filler isn't "songs I don't like"...as I said before, I don't even think filler songs are necessarily bad.
But there is such a thing as a song that doesn't fit with the rest of the album - not just topically, but sonically -
and Life After Death has some.
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Ok so there's 2 love songs on RTD. What about all the songs? :mjlol: That doesn't help your argument my nikka... the majority of the album is still about hardship in Brooklyn.

And how does Juicy sound like it should be on Life After Death when it's another song about him being broke? He doesn't talk about his experiences having money on that song. He talks about being broke. Warning would be a better example but he's talking about having money in the hood. Still doesn't help your argument cause 85% of that album has a constant theme.

And read what I said again. I said you not liking Love The Dough more than Brooklyn's Finest is irrelevant. The reason you say it's filler is cause you don't like it. That's not what filler is. It sounds like Mo Money Mo Problems. Cause it's the same theme.
 
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