Classics Discussion: Notorious B.I.G., Digable Planets & Mos Def

Which of these B.I.G., Digable Planets and Mos Def albums are classic?


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Art Barr

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I'm younger than you (so it's even sadder than you're taking time to argue this out with me) so undoubtedly you know more about the culture and history. I won't deny that. I've had to do a lot of homework to get to my level of understanding today, I admit that. But don't come at me with this 'holier than thou' argument and try and subordinate me or my knowledge in any way.

You are no better than me or anyone else in this thread, and your fukking signature is a joke for real, what an egomaniac...

If you want to discuss stuff or teach me about things, I'm all ears. Don't act like some dikkhead professor trying to examine me and assess whether I'm suitable to talk about hip-hop or not. Your thought about cultural exclusion is cancerous tbh, especially when there are people like myself who are engrossed in the culture and respect it and are fascinated by it.

All you're doing is revealing what a piece of shyt you really are on the inside
:scust:

God bless you man. I hope you can be saved.


Hiphop was around before I was born, but I applied myself.
to the culture historically and learned my history and skill sets in my multiple chosen pillars in full.
Everytime I went into another pillar, without fail, period.
Plus, know the pillar of dj'n I never partook into in full.
While, owning all the vinyl, just like any great DJ would.
Stop making excuses about age.
As I was always the youngest of a certain guard in my own city once upon a time.
Yet, culturally as thorough as the oldest bboy in my city at that young age.
Plus, fought actual grown men in house parties for hiphop to be segregated as well in 85.

I could check you at eight years old about hiphop in 84-86.
in break'n to the end of the Roxanne wars, as an seven or eight year old.

So, you have no excuse.
You, think just because hiphop is a pop gateway.
You can flodge and be a toy like everyone else.
When, it is real bboys around.
You are just as fake as fake dreads who don't know Rasta principles.
You not fooling nobody and you are a toy and a poser.

Trying to get a fake half researched and skewed culture thief based meaning of the culture and culturally disengenuine in your comments, action and scope.

Not to mention, yes...i am above you.

If you did your homework,....
You would know,....
I am an actual protege to a real hiphop legend and a real bboy at my core.
Plus, have etched out my own legacy in a grassroots manner.
that flanked the number one underground draw.
I also have a underground classic that my direct contemporaries and audience know word for word or praise me in public for, out of nowhere in my locale on tour and in other countries.
That same legend I am the protege to.
also helped create the last boom in rap during the end of the sales spike era as well.
That has been skewed out of control by culture thieves like you..trying to create a false history and pass system.
Where you can falsely proclaim to know about the culture of hiphop.
WHEN YOU DON'T KNOW shyt ABOUT HIPHOP.

Especially in comparison to:


Art Barr



I am not a flodge'n sneak dissin the culture toy like you.
with a hiphopinfinity.com uberverse skewed and welled in fard based racism agenda maker and culture thief like you.


Art Barr
 

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Hiphop was around before I was born, but I applied myself.
to the culture historically and learned my history and skill sets in my multiple chosen pillars in full.
Everytime I went into another pillar, without fail, period.
Plus, know the pillar of dj'n I never partook into in full.
While, owning all the vinyl, just like any great DJ would.
Stop making excuses about age.
As I was always the youngest of a certain guard in my own city once upon a time.
Yet, culturally as thorough as the oldest bboy in my city at that young age.
Plus, fought actual grown men in house parties for hiphop to be segregated as well in 85.

I could check you at eight years old about hiphop in 84-86.
in break'n to the end of the Roxanne wars, as an seven or eight year old.

So, you have no excuse.
You, think just because hiphop is a pop gateway.
You can flodge and be a toy like everyone else.
When, it is real bboys around.
You are just as fake as fake dreads who don't know Rasta principles.
You not fooling nobody and you are a toy and a poser.

Trying to get a fake half researched and skewed culture thief based meaning of the culture and culturally disengenuine in your comments, action and scope.

Not to mention, yes...i am above you.

If you did your homework,....
You would know,....
I am an actual protege to a real hiphop legend and a real bboy at my core.
Plus, have etched out my own legacy in a grassroots manner.
that flanked the number one underground draw.
I also have a underground classic that my direct contemporaries and audience know word for word or praise me in public for, out of nowhere in my locale on tour and in other countries.
That same legend I am the protege to.
also helped create the last boom in rap during the end of the sales spike era as well.
That has been skewed out of control by culture thieves like you..trying to create a false history and pass system.
Where you can falsely proclaim to know about the culture of hiphop.
WHEN YOU DON'T KNOW shyt ABOUT HIPHOP.

Especially in comparison to:


Art Barr



I am not a flodge'n sneak dissin the culture toy like you.
with a hiphopinfinity.com uberverse skewed and welled in fard based racism agenda maker and culture thief like you.


Art Barr

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I got a whole month as a holiday for posting smilies, lil toy ass nikka.
You need to do better and learn the culture in full.
before you start parading around like you are really about the culture.
Yousa toy nikkaz....



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I got a whole month as a holiday for posting smilies, lil toy ass nikka.
You need to do better and learn the culture in full.
before you start parading around like you are really about the culture.
Yousa toy nikkaz....



Art Barr

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I don't know what happened here lol, as I just came back on quick and seems to be mad people arguing lol. But regarding the thread had to vote RTD and LAD as classics, are both great albums to me. Honestly my favourite double albums are probably All Eyez On Me and LAD. I fukk with others too though like Annihilation Of The Evil Machine and Wu Tang Forever, but the 2 I mentioned are some of Hip Hop's elite work to me. Annihilation Of The Evil Machine is excellent though (think K-Rino feels that's his best album), in my head I personally have it as between 4 - 4.5 mics but some artists/albums you go back to and revaluate after time or to digest it more, especially someone like K-Rino because he drops such high quality art that you may overlook certain songs in favour of the ones that immediately grab you and stand out to you but then when you go back later and listen you listen to something you may have overlooked and be like "this is the shyt", "can't believe I was sleeping". I've done that with quite a few K songs, amazing output and discography. To put those songs, concepts, lyrics etc all together is phenomenal work. But yeah for now those 2 in my mind are the elite of double albums, Street's Disciple was good but some of the production wasn't doing it for me, would have been great as 1 disc, at 2 was just good and not great. Blueprint 2 similar, highlights but lowlights also. Kurupt's had some decent shyt too. Is there a list somewhere of all the double disc albums? May have over the years...
 

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I don't know what happened here lol, as I just came back on quick and seems to be mad people arguing lol. But regarding the thread had to vote RTD and LAD as classics, are both great albums to me. Honestly my favourite double albums are probably All Eyez On Me and LAD. I fukk with others too though like Annihilation Of The Evil Machine and Wu Tang Forever, but the 2 I mentioned are some of Hip Hop's elite work to me. Annihilation Of The Evil Machine is excellent though (think K-Rino feels that's his best album), in my head I personally have it as between 4 - 4.5 mics but some artists/albums you go back to and revaluate after time or to digest it more, especially someone like K-Rino because he drops such high quality art that you may overlook certain songs in favour of the ones that immediately grab you and stand out to you but then when you go back later and listen you listen to something you may have overlooked and be like "this is the shyt", "can't believe I was sleeping". I've done that with quite a few K songs, amazing output and discography. To put those songs, concepts, lyrics etc all together is phenomenal work. But yeah for now those 2 in my mind are the elite of double albums, Street's Disciple was good but some of the production wasn't doing it for me, would have been great as 1 disc, at 2 was just good and not great. Blueprint 2 similar, highlights but lowlights also. Kurupt's had some decent shyt too. Is there a list somewhere of all the double disc albums? May have over the years...

btw man going back to what you said yesterday, ruler o9 isn't necessarily contrasting your votes, he's voted no to everything. I'm gonna let it slide today, but if in the next poll I see that shyt again I'll discount his vote. thanks for bringing it to my attention.

as for this thread, blame Art Barr, the encyclopaedia of bullshyt

and thanks for your input btw, I still think Wu Forever is elite work tho. I just think ppl found it hard to accept that the Wu could move on sonically from the days of 36 Chambers and they didn't embrace it.
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btw man going back to what you said yesterday, ruler o9 isn't necessarily contrasting your votes, he's voted no to everything. I'm gonna let it slide today, but if in the next poll I see that shyt again I'll discount his vote. thanks for bringing it to my attention.

as for this thread, blame Art Barr, the encyclopaedia of bullshyt

and thanks for your input btw, I still think Wu Forever is elite work tho. I just think ppl found it hard to accept that the Wu could move on sonically from the days of 36 Chambers and they didn't embrace it.
:manny:

He's a well known troll/alias, he's just trying to fukk up the polls. I was just saying cause I didn't want him to fukk up Return Of The Boom Bap for KRS cause that album deserves classic status to me and it was very tight. It would be better if his votes are excluded because they are not genuine at all, if you notice all he really does is come and say some dumb bullshyt when I post and then go lol. So he's pretty much a bot lol. But it's all good, up to you, just letting you know so you know that's not a genuine vote incase it fukked up the polls, but some have been quite secure so 1 troll vote hasn't made a difference, but in that case it could have cause it was close.

All good, everyone got different opinions, I actually fukk with Wu Tang Forever heavy, it's definitely got elite work on it, I love Reunited, Older Gods, For Heaven's Sake, Triumph etc but overall I don't think personally it matches up to those 2.

I forgot he Art Of War too which I thought was excellent. Double discs are sometimes really hard to rate because you can have such contrasting quality of the songs.

I like these threads though, they are to me some of the better threads that have been done for a while because it's actually talking about albums and music and not bullshyt, so I'm glad you did these. Hopefully you'll have time to keep this going. I think everyone needs to accept other's opinion's though, no personal attacks because someone disagrees (if it's said genuinely with knowledge and not hate) because that's the whole point really, to discuss and debate, which is fine, the childish shyt is just time wasting, at a certain point can agree to disagree and keep it moving.

Good threads though, look forward to the next ones.
 

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Both Biggie albums and Black On Both Sides for me. And yes sir, @mobbinfms...Biggie Smalls is the illest. I feel Big was the most versatile MC ever. For the longest while I had him as my GOAT.

Who's your GOAT now? I know Ghost is 2nd right (should be 1 tho lol).

He's a well known troll/alias, he's just trying to fukk up the polls. I was just saying cause I didn't want him to fukk up Return Of The Boom Bap for KRS cause that album deserves classic status to me and it was very tight. It would be better if his votes are excluded because they are not genuine at all, if you notice all he really does is come and say some dumb bullshyt when I post and then go lol. So he's pretty much a bot lol. But it's all good, up to you, just letting you know so you know that's not a genuine vote incase it fukked up the polls, but some have been quite secure so 1 troll vote hasn't made a difference, but in that case it could have cause it was close.

All good, everyone got different opinions, I actually fukk with Wu Tang Forever heavy, it's definitely got elite work on it, I love Reunited, Older Gods, For Heaven's Sake, Triumph etc but overall I don't think personally it matches up to those 2.

I forgot he Art Of War too which I thought was excellent. Double discs are sometimes really hard to rate because you can have such contrasting quality of the songs.

I like these threads though, they are to me some of the better threads that have been done for a while because it's actually talking about albums and music and not bullshyt, so I'm glad you did these. Hopefully you'll have time to keep this going. I think everyone needs to accept other's opinion's though, no personal attacks because someone disagrees (if it's said genuinely with knowledge and not hate) because that's the whole point really, to discuss and debate, which is fine, the childish shyt is just time wasting, at a certain point can agree to disagree and keep it moving.

Good threads though, look forward to the next ones.

thanks man the more positive feedback I get the more encouraged I am in continuing them. I would rather we cut out the insults and resorted to more fruitful discussion and on occasion that hasn't been the case but hopefully people are learning new things, I certainly am.
 

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shyt on biggie to big up K-Rino brehs.


No wonder you're a foreigner CAC who's the second worst poster in the booth brehs.

fukk outta here with your garbage opinion
 
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