Classics Discussion: Three 6 Mafia

[SirBiatch]

My ignorant c00nish response to your claims is simply "but the oscars care?"

My genuine response is below

Just because you choose not to acknowledge and pay homage

Just because you choose not to see/hear their impact

Just because you refuse to give any of their albums a thorough listen (steady asking for us to point you in the direction of what subjectivity or universal opinion/general consensus is..)


we're supposed to take your overall point into consideration

and you call yourself a student of the game with Rocky in your avi...

So student, why do don't you do the work?

Why don't you listen and draw your on conclusion based on what you discovered?

After you draw your conclusion take it and apply it to the game today.

There is a reason A$ap Rocky worked with Juicy J on his last album and not Havoc

Rocky = one of your fave artist

Last Album dropped = 2015

You made light of their sound and how it's prevalent today YET Juicy( as a producer and featured guest) was on A$AP's last album just 9 months ago

are you paying attention student?

It's not my fault they're not that great. And this is coming from someone who would love shyt like that if it was done well (e.g. Rocky). Imagine what a cat who don't fukk with Rocky like @mobbinfms thinks.

Keep pretending like I don't know shyt about 3 6 Mafia or the Memphis bounce in general Sure you can read the previous posts in this very thread but why bother? Anything to deflect from the sad reality that most don't give a fukk

 

[SirBiatch]

What year did this dorp ????????????????

I love how Rocky took the best part of "Stay Fly" and made an even better song How do y'all stay in such denial?

 

[10:31]

You must have short term memory loss @SirBiatch

I can up my thread on 3 6 and it did numbers.... Got a lot of love

you were in it.... asking lots of questions lol...

I see you still haven't listened to anything so maybe you should listen and we can make another thread

 

[SirBiatch]

You must have short term memory loss @SirBiatch

I can up my thread on 3 6 and it did numbers.... Got a lot of love

you were in it.... asking lots of questions lol...

I see you still haven't listened to anything so maybe you should listen and we can make another thread

then those cats need to come in here, vote and tell us why they have classics.

I don't get fooled by fake love. Most of these cats in here talking about "3 6 Mafia da goat" don't actually give a fukk about them nor own any of their albums. I probably give more of a fukk about their music than these pretenders do

 

[H.I.M.]

@SirBiatch

Three Six Mafia had/has the artistry, the talent, and the impact that transcends time and yet @caccinfms and other users still look for the validation of the oppressor to debunk their greatness

So if they had a major distribution deal through Universal in 1995 and more fans got to hear their music as a result of it then you would be "ok" with giving them their just due


Their sound dominates mainstream (regardless of region/nation) hip hop today. They're pioneers and classic is subjective

Just pay your respect and move on..

uuuuuhhhh sir.... @caccinfms IS "the oppressor"

Why do yall always assume everybody is black on here?

And @SirBiatch is a Canadian...which should make his posts on hip-hop or anything to do with our people in general automatic skip over status...how do you expect somebody with a canadian upbringing to understand any of that stuff you're talking about? He doesn't know a goddamn thing about our people, never lived in our communities and been amongst us to have an understanding of the music or whatever impact it had or to gauge peoples opinions on it...you think it's coincidence that the only two people in this thread that appear so clueless on the topic at hand...are two vultures that have no business adding their input in the 1st place?

 

[SirBiatch]

desperate posters stay mentioning me

 

[mobbinfms]

Three Six Mafia had/has the artistry, the talent, and the impact that transcends time and yet @mobbinfms and other users still look for the validation of the oppressor to debunk their greatness

Where are you getting that from breh?
The only receipts that anyone has posted was related to "tumblercore" hipster love and I rejected that deposit.
From the thread responses, it seems that Mystic Styles is the "classic" - but nobody outside of 36's region knew about it in 95 - so at what point did it become a classic? And how?

So if they had a major distribution deal through Universal in 1995 and more fans got to hear their music as a result of it then you would be "ok" with giving them their just due

Yes. Assuming that in this alternate reality the album still held up amongst its much wider audience.

Their sound dominates mainstream (regardless of region/nation) hip hop today. They're pioneers

What does any of this have to do with whether they made a classic album?
One doesn't necessarily go with the other.

 

[Inspect Her Deck]

People keep saying their 'sound' but they cannot attribute it to any one album in particular. Also people seem to be ignoring the importance of quality, not just on personal valuation but consensus. I've never seen a Three 6 Mafia put up there with the best of the best, but I have seen OutKast and Goodie Mob and Scarface etc. So it's not a bias against the South.

 

[mobbinfms]

Some of you don't realize how programmed you are


One minute "we anti", Anti- CAC and we hate Complex and XXL

The next we're using their grading scale to justify albums being great, good, or average

I bet The Source/XXL never gave Three 6 Mafia/Project Pat any respect during their run. I doubt any of their albums got more than 3 MICs.

The editor for the mics through 94 was Reginald Dennis - who was from Harlem.
Reginald C. Dennis interview (Source magazine)

Many of you may have been too young to remember the days when The Source truly was the bible of Hip Hop, I look at those days as fondly for the magazine as I do the music. Reginald C. Dennis was the music editor in those days; those days when Dre didn’t get 5 mics for The Chronic; those days when Nas did get 5 for Illmatic; those days when you didn’t need to be a multi-platinum rapper to get coverage. In his four years at The Source, Reginald saw the magazine go from the bottom to the top, but left after Dave Mays and Ray Benzino created an environment that could not be tolerated. For the first time in the 11 years since he left the magazine, Reginald C. Dennis tells all the tales. “Everything you are about to read is something that I’ve seen, heard, or know. It’s all opinion, of course, but as you’ll see, my positions are highly informed. You can hate it or love it.”

“Growing up in Harlem during the 70s, I pretty much had a ringside seat to the birth of Hip Hop. I lived in the Polo Grounds Projects, right across the street from Rucker Park and spent a lot of my childhood doing what I could to participate in the ongoing cultural narrative that was everyday Harlem life. By 1979 I was already well versed in the areas of emceeing and graffiti, but it was “Rapper’s Delight” that pretty much galvanized my generation and inspired me to step up my participation. I got my hands on every mixtape that I could beg, borrow or steal: Grandmaster Caz, Theodore, Busy Bee – I couldn’t get enough.”

I just did a google search and nobody has posted a Source Review for 3 6 Mafia
It makes sense on the one hand because they probably didn't get any coverage in the magazine until they broke through to a nationwide audience in 1997. And at that point the Source was losing steam. Most of the reviews that are online are from before 97. Also, the Source would only review albums that were sent to them in advance of the album's release.

But I did find this ad from Relativity records for 3 6 Mafia in 1998 saying that they sold equally to rap and rock fans
SPIN

Can anyone explain this?
@Iron Chin Wilder did you know about 3 6 Mafia's massive white fan base?

 

[mobbinfms]

I bet brainwashed fans that never listened to their music or chalked it up to southern noise just thought they were some fly by night country bumpkins that would be 1/2 hit wonders


Right...

Three Six Mafia's sound is the foundation for mainstream and a lot of underground artists today

Brainwashed?
And sure I will readily concede that 36 Mafia laid the foundation for crunk and trap (one could argue that they played a critical role in destroying hip hop...but that's for another thread )
What does that have to do with whether they made a classic album?

Can't say I'm surprised by the responses in this thread. Typical east coast elitist attitudes.

Except I'm from the Bay and voted that Too Short and Mobb Deep both had 3 classics
Three Six Mafia just isn't that good...

 

[mobbinfms]

if 3 6 Mafia are so legendary and got tons of classics, how come we're struggling to get so few votes on these albums? For a group that's supposedly dominating today's sound, you'd think more people would have checked out their albums and be raving about how classic it is.

The youth don't care and the adults certainly don't care. Let's move on.

In fairness though...many top tier groups have struggled to get votes (Geto Boys, Public Enemy).
But I can't think of a group that is supposedly so influential on today's sound that struggled this much?
Let's not ask any more questions breh. They are legends and all of their albums are classics.

 

[H.I.M.]

Could give a fukk less about your cracka opinions neanderthal...all you're getting from me is insults and ridicule.

Except I'm from the Bay

You're a mayo scarfin pigmentless neanderthal...you can have NO valid opinions on rap.

 

[mobbinfms]

Could give a fukk less about your cracka opinions neanderthal...all you're getting from me is insults and ridicule.



You're a mayo scarfin pigmentless neanderthal...you can have NO valid opinions on rap.

Aren't most 36 Mafia fans white though?

 

[10:31]

Soon as I get out of the office I'll take care of the two users who consciously took it upon themselves to enter a classic discussion thread to question validity


One of which admitted they never listened to a three six mafia album


The other is upset that triple six makes better music than Mobb Deep

 

[mobbinfms]

Soon as I get out of the office I'll take care of the two users who consciously took it upon themselves to enter a classic discussion thread to question validity


One of which admitted they never listened to a three six mafia album


The other is upset that triple six makes better music than Mobb Deep

Sounds like fun breh