Cliff Bleszinski: “AAA is a nearly unsustainable model”

[StretfordRed]

Where exactly does Nier Automata come into all of this? Two and a half years production, sold very well on only two platforms and a sequel an almost certainly?

I was watching an article on Japanese gaming and they basically gave this, Nioh, Persona and a few other games as an example of story driven games that aren't "crazy" expensive.

I'm not sure the price of development of those games. But I felt Japanese devs concentrate more on gameplay and story and western games prefer blockbusters

 

[MeachTheMonster]

spending so much money on marketing seems like a waste. I remember last time I was in SF, every other city bus had an Assassin's Creed ad on the side. does that really make people want to buy a game though? it certainly doesn't make a good game

it seems a lot of the time I find out about games through internet word-of-mouth, and not any form of traditional advertising

You or me aren't the target demographic.

Those best selling games are the same games "we" don't like.

 

[itsyoung!!]

Yea none of those games ever sold a copy digitally

whats that gotta do with what I posted and what you responded to?

 

[Zero]

Really, and I hate to say it, games should cost $80. They've remained $60 for so long, despite inflation. Of course they are losing money. Only a few major companies can pull off 100+ mill games.

And I gotta say this, @Prodigal Syndicate has been saying this for years. He saw this a mile away; way before anybody else

You shut the fukk up Ciggavelli

My mama don't buy my games no more

 

[Maximus Rex]

whats that gotta do with what I posted and what you responded to?

you brought up them not including digital sales like it meant something

if the game sold well physically it also did digitally

don't backpedal

 

[itsyoung!!]

you brought up them not including digital sales like it meant something

if the game sold well physically it also did digitally

don't backpedal

no you fukking idiot some games did not make that list cause they did so exceptionally well digitally compared to physical sales and or werent released physically at all. that list is top PHYSICAL sales ONLY.

example: World of Warcraft expansion came out last year and sold more than any game on that list outside Overwatch but isnt on this list

why does shyt like this need to be explained

 

[Regular_P]

 

[Maximus Rex]

no you fukking idiot some games did not make that list cause they did so exceptionally well digitally compared to physical sales and or werent released physically at all. that list is top PHYSICAL sales ONLY.

example: World of Warcraft expansion came out last year and sold more than any game on that list outside Overwatch but isnt on this list

why does shyt like this need to be explained

there is no fukking digital only game that is approaching that list go on somewhere with that shyt
an expansion? where is the game? should CoD DLC map packs be on the list?
you dudes are straight retarded

 

[Chef]

I agree. AAA gaming is just too much on the developer and consumer. You can just look at Mass Effect Andromeda as a perfect example of AAA fukkery. Release these half baked games with an apology tweet, talk about your post launch support and rinse and repeat for next fiscal year cause we all forget about it.

 

[Dominic Brehetto]

I agree. AAA gaming is just too much on the developer and consumer. You can just look at Mass Effect Andromeda as a perfect example of AAA fukkery. Release these half baked games with an apology tweet, talk about your post launch support and rinse and repeat for next fiscal year cause we all forget about it.

Mass effect is basically an early access game.

 

[Spyro]

They should make games more expensive but make DLC free and constantly support them

 

[Mowgli]

Clifford mad his games no longer matter

 

[Black Magisterialness]

I agree. AAA gaming is just too much on the developer and consumer. You can just look at Mass Effect Andromeda as a perfect example of AAA fukkery. Release these half baked games with an apology tweet, talk about your post launch support and rinse and repeat for next fiscal year cause we all forget about it.

This.


Although, I think games like Nier, Persona, Dark Souls and other need to make devs open their eyes and say "if we make in interesting and play welll...by gods...we don't even need a multi-million dollar marketing campaign or endorsement deals "

 

[Maximus Rex]

Clifford mad his games no longer matter

saw the publisher of Lawbreakers and shook my head

 

[itsyoung!!]

there is no fukking digital only game that is approaching that list go on somewhere with that shyt
an expansion? where is the game? should CoD DLC map packs be on the list?
you dudes are straight retarded

compare call of duty 4 maps $9.99 DLC to expansions that take 2 years of development brehs

this forum confuses DLC with expansion.. they are 2 different things.. you are already my WOAT 2017 poster just off this thread