Cliff Bleszinski: “AAA is a nearly unsustainable model”

[David_TheMan]

I remember when dvd/cd games first game.
Before that games used to cost 79.99 for cartridges.
They told us with development of optical media we would see a reduction in pricing 49.99 would the be the norm.
Then Xbox 2 and Ps3 the price shoots up, even though development media and development platforms were merging making PC and console development streamlined and just a optimization issue.
It makes no sense why the price of games has not falled again, but I blame the market, you kids who go out and buy this shyt, who pay money for demos and betas (which are advertising, kids paying to be advertised to) have created this situation and I don't give a damn.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

People been saying this for almost 10 years now

Cliff doesn't have big budgets for his games anymore. Obviously this would be his stance.

For the biggest and best, dev costs and profits are the highest ever.

You wanna compete? go big or go home

 

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

...and they would make a lot less profit, if they made anything at all.

Btw Dishonored 2 was a really good game released last year that didn't sell well. Deus Ex as well.

Both those games look like trash not triple A current gen content.

Developers are getting lazy with ideas and I'll continue to be lazy with my wallet...

As the industry got bigger and the tech better the creativity tanked. Makes no sense at all. All the big games are full of rehashed ideas. Games are also over priced. They would definitely get more sales at reasonable price points.

 

[Grand Conde]

Both those games look like trash? Did you even play them retard?

 

[PS5 Pro]

they arent

All lives matter

 

[MeachTheMonster]

...and they would make a lot less profit, if they made anything at all.

Btw Dishonored 2 was a really good game released last year that didn't sell well. Deus Ex as well.

Didn't sell well=/=failure

Everything doesn't need to do COD numbers.

Just yesterday y'all were arguing to me that a million seller is a highly successful title.

Seems yalls opinion on how many copies need to be sold changes depending on whether they are PS exclusives or not

 

[Rice N Beans]

Some good in that. Not every game needs to try and be a Hollywood blockbuster.

I doubt Nintendo spends so much to develop yet they still sell like hotcakes.

There's a lane like GTA and such. But we don't need so many games to try and follow the formula.

 

[Bawon Samedi]

Just like his career.

 

[David_TheMan]

What happened to Cliffy B why was he fired, wasnt he a part of Unreal since the beginning?
I mean atleast Carmack left id voluntarily.

 

[Fatboi1]

And people get mad when games come with season passes, micro trans, DLC and remasters.

 

[daze23]

spending so much money on marketing seems like a waste. I remember last time I was in SF, every other city bus had an Assassin's Creed ad on the side. does that really make people want to buy a game though? it certainly doesn't make a good game

it seems a lot of the time I find out about games through internet word-of-mouth, and not any form of traditional advertising

 

[daze23]

What happened to Cliffy B why was he fired, wasnt he a part of Unreal since the beginning?
I mean atleast Carmack left id voluntarily.

I don't think he was fired

 

[Rigby.]

Where exactly does Nier Automata come into all of this? Two and a half years production, sold very well on only two platforms and a sequel an almost certainly?

- What they don't want you to believe in
Persona and NieR, (formerly) niche franchises with relatively little promotion, moved units, were quality games, financial successes. It's up to these major companies to stop prioritizing grandness of a game + looking like a movie over just making a good game. The premise of emphasizing making a good game is priceless.

 

[daze23]

Hollywood has the same issues. all they can come up with is remaking 80's movies, and putting out another Fast & Furious

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Where exactly does Nier Automata come into all of this? Two and a half years production, sold very well on only two platforms and a sequel an almost certainly?

You just claimed two games that sold more "didn't sell well"

Have Sony stan logic brehs