Clipse album produced by Pharrell LET GOD SORT EM OUT Discussion thread JULY 11TH

[OJ Simpsom]

What’s the deal with So Be It? Saw part 2 is on the tracklist but the one that’s out with a video ain’t on these streaming services

The best song ain't even on the album

 

[Roxx the King]

The best song ain't even on the album

Sounds like maybe a deluxe may arrive after the album

 

[Deafheaven]

Grindin’ put them on the map - that was 20 years ago and outside of LW, all the Clipse albums have been commercial failures. HHNF did 80k in 2006 when people were going platinum left, right and centre and TTCD did 39k first week in 2009, way before streaming was even regarded a thought. First album was shelved before LW came out 3 years after….in normal circumstances, he would’ve been dropped and left to fend for himself on the indie circuit. Slim Thug’s album on Star Trak did 130k first week which is more than any Pusha album, solo or group and he was dropped with the quickness.

Lot of focus on numbers but the point is that he has the relationship with the same producer for 20 years because they’ve been friends since childhood, not because of the commercial success he’s delivered him. Pusha T is not walking the Louis V runway in Paris or attending the Met Gala because he’s a superstar rapper lool



In regards to Kanye, yep he ghost wrote for him but everyone ghost wrote for Kanye - even his biggest opp ghost wrote for him loool. Ghostwriting for Kanye is like ghostwriting for Dre - you’d be more pressed to find someone didn’t ghost write for him. In this context though I’m talking about Pusha as an artist in his own regard and with 4 albums under GOOD music, he’s never cracked 100k first week - I don’t even think he’s gone gold. So in spite of him being an artist that’s never put up crazy numbers (case could be made that he’s consistently underperformed on Soundscan), he still managed to get to the position of CEO. He may shown some other ‘transferable’ skills that Kanye saw as beneficial for the position but outside looking in, it was most likely that he was the artist in GOOD that was most tight with Kanye. How you go from the below (which was just 3 years ago) to ‘I never respected him as a leader and a man for the 12 years I worked with him’ is kind of mind boggling:



This is what I’m talking about when I say social climber - his alignment with Kanye served its use to him until it didn’t…



Objectively speaking, he’s not a peer to Jay, Nas or Kendrick - he’s not on their level in terms of status or what they’ve achieved in their career, he just isn’t. He’s a great rapper - I literally said he’s in my top five but he’s not in the same sphere as those you mentioned and I listen to him way more than I do them. And if anything, these rappers are examples of the social climbing he does because it was through his relationships with Kanye and Pharell that he was able to get relationships with Jay (Ye), Nas, (Ye) and Kendrick (Pharell). Jay-Z didn’t give a fukk about Pusha when he was doing 16s with Ab Liva and Sandman on the Re-up Gang tapes. In fact he told Pharrell that they were one dimensional cause all they rap about is coke lol

As someone said in another thread, Pusha’s brand is Coke, High Fashion and hating on rappers that are bigger than him which is why it’s gone from beef with Wayne to Aubrey to now Travis. He hates that these rappers are more successful than him - he’ll always just find the narrative to justify the hate. But he’s an elite rapper so he does it well lol

This is an impressive degree of hating. Kudos

 

[valet]

The K.Dot gen/jin/Jen alliteration is dope.

 

[Nick Street]

 

[tehparadox]

 

[Ziggiy]

As someone who’s been a Clipse fan since LW and a Push stan since WGIFC v1, I 1000% agree with this.

Push is conveniently forgetting the part of the story where Clipse had a major flop critically and commercially in 2009 with TTCD and were dropped from their new label, Malice retired from rap because he became more spiritual/was running scared from the Feds after their manager got picked up and Sandman left Re-Up Gang because he was disillusioned with working with the Clipse. So 2010 there was no Clipse and no Re-Up Gang and on top of that, Neptunes were ice cold because the south had the game in a choke hold so there also was no Pharrell or Neptunes to keep him hot.

I also remember him saying at the time he had no interest in being a solo artist so Kanye bringing him into GOOD Music literally saved his career. Kanye’s a piece of shyt and I’m not even a fan of his music like that but what I am grateful for is that he was able to keep Pusha relevant enough so that we could continue to get new music from him because post TTCD, it was looking super bleak for him. But what’s also disingenuous is him talking crazy about Kanye as a man and a leader because you worked for the man for 12 years and were thick as thieves - dude was even at your wedding lol. So that being the case, if that’s what you think about the man, what does that say about your integrity as a man that you propped him up for over a decade?

With all that being said, I still got my iTunes preorder downloading first thing tomorrow and my Kaws and Verdy merch packs are being shipped in the next 5 working days

Kanye said “Hail Hitler” and admitted to performing oral sex on his male cousin.

The only thing out of ANYONE’S mouth regarding Kanye West BETTER be that he’s a horrible man and leader.

Push ain’t said a damn thing wrong about that nut case

 

[jwinfield]

He said so on Control, and Pusha was one of the only artists that understood kendrick's intention, and they been friends ever since

 

[Ziggiy]

Yeah I know they've had the song for a long time so they could've been sitting on this video..

But if Kendrick actually broke out while he's on tour to shoot a video that's super solid of him

There was footage of him a few months ago filming something. I can’t remember if what leaked ended up being for the Luther video but if not it could’ve been for this.

 

[Cladyclad]

A person not on the album is talked about more than someone that is on the album lol

I cant wait to skip that 30 seconds of mid

 

[Mike Wins]

Kanye said “Hail Hitler” and admitted to performing oral sex on his male cousin.

The only thing out of ANYONE’S mouth regarding Kanye West BETTER be that he’s a horrible man and leader.

Push ain’t said a damn thing wrong about that nut case

Can't forget "slavery was a choice" and all the other anti-Black, MAGA shyt he said.

Kanye a disgrace as a human being in general and a Black man specifically. Pusha criticism is light when you consider to the narcissistic POS Ye really is.

 

[Ribbs]

Bieber
Larry June & Cardo
Burner Boy
Givon
Boldy James

Good weekend for music, not just the Clipse.

 

[904]

There was footage of him a few months ago filming something. I can’t remember if what leaked ended up being for the Luther video but if not it could’ve been for this.

I think that was for the tour..

I remember the stuff that was released was at a gas station.. At the show, a lot of clips on the screen were at a gas station

 

[Ziggiy]

I think that was for the tour..

I remember the stuff that was released was at a gas station.. At the show, a lot of clips on the screen were at a gas station

Oh yea thats true.

Well i’ll guess we’ll see in an hour

 

[L $ C]

travis dropping this weekend also? lol. gonna be rough for the clipse