I been trying to tell nikkas bout this, but per usual, these lack of foresight having-ass negroes aint tryna here it.
The only thing I didn't like about Ye's rants was that he came off as a spoiled brat but everything the man was saying was correct. MFers just couldn't see below the surface .
I was one of the few people agreeing with Kanye and nikkas were going on me. I agreed at the time that he acts spoiled, but he has been that way forever and has bad delivery at times with his opinions. But its hard to disagree with what he said. The only thing is Kanye can't be trusted to things for black people since he is in too deep in the system. I think that he was ignorant of a lot of things but he found out stuff it was too late. He still has "obligations" to hold his end of the bargain for the fake Jews and cacs and their evil agenda against black people.
I didn't read all of this, but I can get the gist of it from a few tweets. Someone says a bunch of things that are grounded more in conjecture than facts but in there are kernels of truth that connect to the overall ethos of "we don't own shyt" that we all know and recognize so people will cosign all of it. If I could actually do shyt without this thread freezing every 20 seconds then I'd point out the tweets that we all can agree with and those that are just suppositions or do not look at the entire picture. (I.E. about funding). Overall, a few decent points that we all know and a bunch of ranting that is poorly articulated but will serve to get people in their feelings because we know that we don't own much.
I didn't read all of this, but I can get the gist of it from a few tweets. Someone says a bunch of things that are grounded more in conjecture than facts but in there are kernels of truth that connect to the overall ethos of "we don't own shyt" that we all know and recognize so people will cosign all of it. If I could actually do shyt without this thread freezing every 20 seconds then I'd point out the tweets that we all can agree with and those that are just suppositions or do not look at the entire picture. (I.E. about funding). Overall, a few decent points that we all know and a bunch of ranting that is poorly articulated but will serve to get people in their feelings because we know that we don't own much.
Then cue the confused pseudo revolutionary circle jerk where we
disparage black people for not having a leg up on the competition
despite being disadvantaged for several decades.
I like how he replied to a tweet that he was out of touch and overstating
the effects of gangster rap while completely ignoring the damage that
a lack of economic mobility, the proliferation of crack and other powerful
streets drugs conflated with the rise of the organized street gang only to
leave lasting damage by saying "Well those kids get face tatts like Game and Gucci"
or something roughly equivalent to that.
I wonder who sent those tweets
I figured he'd be able to produce more damning evidence of Hip Hop and the evils
that followed after it's introduction that's just me though
With that said I think he made some good points but others were lost in the
"THUG CULTURE !!! GANGSTA RAP !!! IF YOU WORK WITH THESE PEOPLE YOU'RE
A SELL OUT !!!" nonsense.
Yep...They get positive reinforcement from their white massas that control them. I've been saying that Chief Keef was a hired agent to push the prison industry in Chicago and nationwide. I also already stated that some of the media coverage was exaggerated too. But the media can make it seem like black Chicago is in an all out war. Some of the violence was also instigated through the music. He doesn't realize he is being used by massa who is giving him the approval. The negative portrayal of black people through the media is used to destroy black people at all levels. I've been telling people that these these prison companies are being traded in the stock market and are owned by people in government, media, etc. Then people wonder why some of go in on the white supremacist system.
I don't think the violence in Chicago is instigated by the music.
The music came WELL AFTER the violence, and the Trap/Drill music
scene in Chicago was already producing talent well before Chief Keef
wound up on interscope.
Anyone with even an inkling of understanding of the violence in Chicago or any inner city knows
it's due to several different issues like decades long standing issue of being competitive
economically, high drop out rates, a very REAL presence of gangs, governmental
housing, economic mobility being practically non existent, a very profitable illegal drug market etc.
People don't need to turn to conspiracy theories to get an idea of what's the issue, it's right in front of them.
People want to place blame on "Chief Keef" when before him and his little crew larger more organized gangs
like the GD's, Vice Lord's, and others had reasonably high recruitment and a very profitable drug trade to protect.
All of which happened before they were ultimately destabilized and broken down leading to the smaller crews/cliques which are only affiliated by name, many of these crews/cliques have no loyalty to each other whatsoever and regularly beef/clash.
What's going on in Chicago is similar to what's happening in places like Vegas and Southern California.
I think in trying to boil down these long standing beefs and the retaliatory violence that comes with them as just
"Well Chief Keef is popular" does nothing to get to the root of the problem and only obfuscates the issue.
@Napoleon For some odd reason I never got your tag but I found this thread on my own and it was very hard to load up breh. It's a shame it doesn't have more replies.
Curtis Sc00n made some very powerful statements in his tweets that can really put his career in jeopardy. The powerful statements he was making can only come from a person who has been broken, frustrated, and hard done by the industry. But if you examine his statements, he isn't really saying anything that hasn't already been said about African Americans and our inability to get the big picture when it comes to owning what we create and controlling the platforms on which we create them. Matter of fact Marcus Garvey, Elijah Muhammad, Malcolm X, MLK, Amos WIlson, Dr. Claude Anderson etc have all said the same thing to a certain degree.
With that said I can't help but think that he is saying all of this because a deal fell through or he got hard done by someone in the industry. Rarely do you ever hear this from people who are currently in the belly of the beast. It's almost always when they are past it and have nothing left to lose.
My only beef with this is that it seems disingenuous. Alot of blacks get on that militant tip when they have been hard done by the establishment. When they were out there getting "theirs" they could give two shyts about the black community. But now that there shyt aint popping, they wanna run back to the community and claim they for it. I don't know if this cat is the same way, but it has that kind of feel to it.
He made specific tweets related to not getting or getting very little funding due
to being a black producer, so yes, I think it's a bit ironic to have him calling out
rappers utilizing the major label system whilst simultaneously failing to
procure funds for his own projects from the "Major label" equivalent in Hollywood.
Damn, I always start reading tweets in reverse order .
But to the point, these are excellent tweets. We can't wait to run and tell people we are bosses because we know our bosses won't speak publicly. Imagine if all the people cutting the checks for Jay and Diddy came out and held a presser. Their brands would instantly be destroyed. Never understood why people making hundreds of millions of dollars can't start their own distribution companies and print the cd's they sell and keep all the money in house once their deals are up.
Then cue the confused pseudo revolutionary circle jerk where we
disparage black people for not having a leg up on the competition
despite being disadvantaged for several decades.
I like how he replied to a tweet that he was out of touch and overstating
the effects of gangster rap while completely ignoring the damage that
a lack of economic mobility, the proliferation of crack and other powerful
streets drugs conflated with the rise of the organized street gang only to
leave lasting damage by saying "Well those kids get face tatts like Game and Gucci"
or something roughly equivalent to that.
I wonder who sent those tweets
I figured he'd be able to produce more damning evidence of Hip Hop and the evils
that followed after it's introduction that's just me though
With that said I think he made some good points but others were lost in the
"THUG CULTURE !!! GANGSTA RAP !!! IF YOU WORK WITH THESE PEOPLE YOU'RE
A SELL OUT !!!" nonsense.
I don't think the violence in Chicago is instigated by the music.
The music came WELL AFTER the violence, and the Trap/Drill music
scene in Chicago was already producing talent well before Chief Keef
wound up on interscope.
Anyone with even an inkling of understanding of the violence in Chicago or any inner city knows
it's due to several different issues like decades long standing issue of being competitive
economically, high drop out rates, a very REAL presence of gangs, governmental
housing, economic mobility being practically non existent, a very profitable illegal drug market etc.
People don't need to turn to conspiracy theories to get an idea of what's the issue, it's right in front of them.
People want to place blame on "Chief Keef" when before him and his little crew larger more organized gangs
like the GD's, Vice Lord's, and others had reasonably high recruitment and a very profitable drug trade to protect.
All of which happened before they were ultimately destabilized and broken down leading to the smaller crews/cliques which are only affiliated by name, many of these crews/cliques have no loyalty to each other whatsoever and regularly beef/clash.
What's going on in Chicago is similar to what's happening in places like Vegas and Southern California.
I think in trying to boil down these long standing beefs and the retaliatory violence that comes with them as just
"Well Chief Keef is popular" does nothing to get to the root of the problem and only obfuscates the issue.
He made specific tweets related to not getting or getting very little funding due
to being a black producer, so yes, I think it's a bit ironic to have him calling out
rappers utilizing the major label system whilst simultaneously failing to
procure funds for his own projects from the "Major label" equivalent in Hollywood.
I'm not lying and yes I do have the nerve to say that Music has little to no
influence on whether or not someone will decide to go out and kill somebody.
I think the things that would influence such a decision are much closer
to home than some gangster rapper and his violent lyrics.
I'm not lying and yes I do have the nerve to say that Music has little to no
influence on whether or not someone will decide to go out and kill somebody.
I think the things that would influence such a decision are much closer
to home than some gangster rapper and his violent lyrics.
Ppl still trying to push that "Oh, gangster rap and increased violence is the reason prison rates are up."
When, if you recognized that violent crime has gone down and prisons are mostly (70%) filled with ppl w/ non-violent drug charges, you'd be left with face.
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that's just me though 
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presser. Their brands would instantly be destroyed. Never understood why people making hundreds of millions of dollars can't start their own distribution companies and print the cd's they sell and keep all the money in house once their deals are up.
face.
