Coli militants...come in here and discuss @CurtisSc00n's tweets on black culture & corporatism

[Chesirecatdaddy]

Man I'm so glad you made this thread @Napoleon

Finally something that can jump start brehs on the coli's minds... this is the type of thinking that black people need to have... someone on the inside with the balls to call out these so called heroes.. they are fukking peons when you really think about it.

This is the spark in the mind that gets people thinking of solutions... the motherfukking red pill

 

[ThatTruth777]

I appreciate the wisdom he's dropping and light he's shedding on these snakes, crooks & liars. Some of those quotes that hit the spot for me:

Spoiler

"never have the powerless been so well compensated"

Nah bruh. Ironically there's a conspiracy to make you believe hip hop is a representation of your culture and you fell for it.

If these guys are so smart and intelligent why are they always making someone dollars for every nickel they get? Riddle me that?

Bottom line is hip hop started as one thing and quickly became a tool of corporate entities who function under the cover of token Negroes.

Who is hip hop? Is it your favorite rapper? Is it Jimmy Iovine and Lyor Cohen. Does anyone even know? Hip Hop is like Al Qaida. Formless.

Destroy and rebuild. Your heroes are whores.

No one wants to admit the role rap has played in the state of our community. If those are the only heroes you have then your lost anyway.

The so-called Tanning of America amounts to the perpetuation of every negative stereotype about black men and women for profit.

No one is perfect and we all have done wrong. They danger comes from the celebration and promotion of wrong making right not even an option.

Stop supporting bullshyt. Stop supporting people who misrepresent you. People who exploit you. People who mean you no good whatsoever.

Who do these people represent? What hood is this?

The thing about people like Steve Stoute and Russell is they've got people thinking their personal success represents collective success.

Steve Stoute has picked up where Soledad O'Brien left off. Trini "smart man" at work.

I got a better title. "The pimping of Urban America and the bottom bytches who made it possible."

These morons facilitated their own demise by seeking acceptance through assimilation losing touch with the very base that made them relevant

I don't know how these people look in the mirror. They have to convince themselves you deserve to be exploited. The genesis of self-hatred.

Now we're left with heroes whose greatest talent is their ability to exploit our ignorance rather than facilitate our empowerment..

Our community is so desperate for heroes we've made it possible for people who mean us no good to present themselves as saviors.

How can someone think so highly of themselves and accomplishments yet have no defenders? The Emperor wears no clothes.

If they can't blind you with brilliance all that's left is for them to bedazzle you with bullshyt.

Mediocrity is flourishing at the expense of brilliance thus the need for successive gimmicks. Stop clogging the lane with trash.

Never in the history of the world have so many talentless people amass such wealth.

I don't make people uncomfortable with my size or history. I make them uncomfortable because I see through them.

 

[-DMP-]

not just in rap either

in EVERY fukking thing. shyts annoying. Most athletes, most musicians, least owners, least coaches, and least (real) bosses.

-DMP-

 

[Ego Noir]

To play devils advocate here:

Although what he is saying is mostly true, but a lot of what he is saying is much easier said than actually done in this maze of life.

On the section of his rant he goes on about the artist makin pennies when execs made dollars.

Let's really look at this, what other option is there?

The minute hiphop went corporate is the minute we relinquished control to the Jewish 'regime' that runs corporation.

My point is a lot of these people are out here spitting these truths in critique, but to me the bottom line is what working solutions do you suggest?

 

[-DMP-]

To play devils advocate here:

Although what he is saying is mostly true, but a lot of what he is saying is much easier said than actually done in this maze of life.

On the section of his rant he goes on about the artist makin pennies when execs made dollars.

Let's really look at this, what other option is there?

The minute hiphop went corporate is the minute we relinquished control to the Jewish 'regime' that runs corporation.

My point is a lot of these people are out here spitting these truths in critique, but to me the bottom line is what working solutions do you suggest?

A lot of these things are easier said by the tongue than actually enacted in real life.

I always thought it would be, know the game, to play the game. You know, start out owning record imprints, then labels, then pool together and become a major label/disributor (like what Jprince Shug, and irv planned)

Atleast thats how i always imagined it would happen. Just seemed like the natural progression after master p and russell kicked in the doors.

-DMP-

 

[Chesirecatdaddy]

To play devils advocate here:

Although what he is saying is mostly true, but a lot of what he is saying is much easier said than actually done in this maze of life.

On the section of his rant he goes on about the artist makin pennies when execs made dollars.

Let's really look at this, what other option is there?

The minute hiphop went corporate is the minute we relinquished control to the Jewish 'regime' that runs corporation.

My point is a lot of these people are out here spitting these truths in critique, but to me the bottom line is what working solutions do you suggest?

A lot of these things are easier said by the tongue than actually enacted in real life.

yes true... but I think he's moreso criticizing these dudes making it seem like these are accomplishments of their own rather than just being front men... and I also think he's dissing the fact that they make this look like some collective accomplishments rather than them being lackeys for dudes brainwashing the collective.

 

[AZBeauty]

Can someone quote the original post, the first page won't load and this one just loaded on my 3rd try.

 

[J-Nice]

@Napoleon For some odd reason I never got your tag but I found this thread on my own and it was very hard to load up breh. It's a shame it doesn't have more replies.

Curtis Sc00n made some very powerful statements in his tweets that can really put his career in jeopardy. The powerful statements he was making can only come from a person who has been broken, frustrated, and hard done by the industry. But if you examine his statements, he isn't really saying anything that hasn't already been said about African Americans and our inability to get the big picture when it comes to owning what we create and controlling the platforms on which we create them. Matter of fact Marcus Garvey, Elijah Muhammad, Malcolm X, MLK, Amos WIlson, Dr. Claude Anderson etc have all said the same thing to a certain degree.

With that said I can't help but think that he is saying all of this because a deal fell through or he got hard done by someone in the industry. Rarely do you ever hear this from people who are currently in the belly of the beast. It's almost always when they are past it and have nothing left to lose.

My only beef with this is that it seems disingenuous. Alot of blacks get on that militant tip when they have been hard done by the establishment. When they were out there getting "theirs" they could give two shyts about the black community. But now that there shyt aint popping, they wanna run back to the community and claim they for it. I don't know if this cat is the same way, but it has that kind of feel to it.

 

[Ego Noir]

yes true... but I think he's moreso criticizing these dudes making it seem like these are accomplishments of their own rather than just being front men... and I also think he's dissing the fact that they make this look like some collective accomplishments rather than them being lackeys for dudes brainwashing the collective.

Mayweather is a cash cow because of Haymond and Golden Boy. But can you say a Golden Boy and Haymond made a Mayweather?

They can only groom you, but as a star, you have to be.

If Jimmy made 50, made Jay, made Diddy, why hasn't there arisen another of the same?

By calling them front men you are downplaying their own work.

Matter fact, for the sake of argument lets call them front men, willingly submitting to the whims of a corporate Jew.

Papoose once stood on a multi-million dollar offer but said "my talent is something these record companies can't steal". Where is papoose today?

Meanwhile breh basically called Diddy a c00n. But where is Diddy today? Diddy today if he wills can make a power move in this industry.

You tell me what was the better path?

It's easy to sit on some militant high ground, but bottom line is a lot of what these dudes say just sound good. But can produce nothing in real life.

 

[concise]

This guy originally linked 152 tweets in his original post.

152.
And linked all the tweets with the newest at the top and oldest at the bottom.

I just cropped a whole deal out along with another post that quoted the whole thing. People can just go to the twitter page and just click that follow button. A page shouldn't take forever to load like that.

 

[DEAD7]

"never have the powerless been so well compensated"



Been thinking bout this one ever since I read it

I hope this one right here sinks in fam.

 

[ShaneTheRogue]

Yeah I agree with the message but y'all need to chill with the conspiracy theories. Did you honestly think people weren't replying to the thread because they didn't want to acknowledge the truth? I was going to reply first a few hours ago, but my ride showed up before I could since the post was a full(50 posts) page long and backwards.

It's annoying when people make serious topic threads and passive aggressively try to shame people into to posting. It's like y'all don't really care about the topic and you just want as many people to see your righteous indignation as possible.

But yeah, I agree with what he said.

 

[luvaznpoon]

Watch these Coli nikkas avoid this shyt like the plague. They don't want to hear this type of thing....

like because we got derrick rose and jay z and russell simmons collectively I guess we supposed to be doing good...naw.

I'm so sick and tired of black people pigeonholing themselves in sports and entertainment. I guess cause everyone else only sees us as good for our strength and our musicality we should too...fukk that.

Y'all know true black intellectualism is feared so some of these nikkas is way too happy to play dumb for massa and encourage hise peers to walk off the same bridge with him as long as he can have some instagram mixed bishes, some alexander wang and y-3, and a bugatti to wake up in after hitting u the jumpoffs place.

Not knowing that the future of this country (and the world) is being written WITHOUT us in mind. Its already happening around y'all. You see them skyscrapers they be putting up...them new condos...them new businesses...they put those up without you in mind. In fact, when I walk around my hood in brooklyn and I see these buildings going up I feel like it's the higher ups subliminally telling me "thanks for all your contributions and making Brooklyn look cool with your savagely dope music and surprisingly alluring yet backwards ghetto culture you created. We no longer need you to be here so all you n!ggers and spics can get the f*ck out to make way for the whitebread suburban millenial generation who will take your place and see you as a cute little footnote in their lives".

How many tims must we talk about problems and not solutions? I'm sick and tired of this sh!t. I'm trying to be an owner. I'm trying to help black people out...I don't give a f*ck what these cacs, asians, and spanish folk who just see us as accessories to their lifestyles think..at the end of the day, I only give a f*ck about other black people in this country and that's it. I want to see black folks progressing in this f*cked up country that never gave us a fair shot. I'm sick and tired of having to depend on others for my future in this world when it's obvious they don't give a f*ck about me and only want to use me as a "cool prop" or as a person to buy drugs from and or some token and that's it.

When will the rest of these black folk wake the f*ck up to this? I don't know...they too busy turning up smoking loud sippin lean and the white man who's just looking for credibility and a come up needs black faces to make money off of is more than happy to use them to achiever their goals...they'll fall into the same trap and fall of that same f*cking cliff because they'd rather be cool and powerless.

End rant.

 

[J-Nice]

Alot of the info about Diddy and Jay is nothing new that nobody has ever heard before. There are alot of rappers out there who claim to be owners of their brands when they are nothing but Hypemen for the companies they represent for the owners who have the real power behind the scenes.

For example take Ludacris and his advertising of Conjure in which he gave the impression that Conjure was 100% owned by him when it really wasn't. In reality Luda was involved in a joint venture with famed Birkedel Hartmann who are based in the cognac regions of France. They were the ones responsible for making and distributing the cognac while Luda was just the marketer for the product while the company made millions of his name and he only saw a small portion of those profits.

 

[How Sway?]

Dude is right. Too many black endeavors are financed by whites. They have systems in place to make sure the glass ceiling isn't broken. When Kanye was ranting about being froze out the fashion industry we all joked about it even though we shouldn't have. Back when jay-z was bragging about being the president of def jam and I was telling people that Doug Morris was still the boss who had the final say on everything dudes would argue me down. None of them knew who Doug Morris was though. There really is no reason for the diddys and jays to have to partner up with other companies being worth the money they're worth but they'll call themselves a boss on a track and people eat it up but they've been in the business long enough to know if a white guy isn't getting paid off of it you'll get froze out or investigated like Suge,Irv Gotti, and J-Prince

I been trying to tell nikkas bout this, but per usual, these lack of foresight having-ass negroes aint tryna here it.

The only thing I didn't like about Ye's rants was that he came off as a spoiled brat but everything the man was saying was correct. MFers just couldn't see below the surface .