Colts superstar RB Jonathan Taylor requests trade

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Can't even blame this on the owner being a drug addict. This feels like a league-wide directive and while I get some of the logic...JT makes that team better, just like Saquon makes NY better. Replacing them with Generic Late Round RB doesn't provide equal value to the team

Missing a season is rough but treat it like a covid year. Sit out and then bounce next season. Unless they tag him lol. Dunno what the Colts free agent situation is like, perhaps they have more pressing need to use the tag on someone else.
It's always weird to me. Defense keys in on star running back, leaving the field much more open for average ass QB. Come free agency it seems teams rush to pay the average ass QB big money, while fukking over the star running back that lead to the QB looking decent in the first place instead of just replacing the average QB with a much cheaper average QB and paying the RB.

I fully understand paying the true star QBs. But when you get to the above average and below QBs has any team successfully won a Super Bowl paying one big money.
 

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It's always weird to me. Defense keys in on star running back, leaving the field much more open for average ass QB. Come free agency it seems teams rush to pay the average ass QB big money, while fukking over the star running back that lead to the QB looking decent in the first place instead of just replacing the average QB with a much cheaper average QB and paying the RB.

I fully understand paying the true star QBs. But when you get to the above average and below QBs has any team successfully won a Super Bowl paying one big money.

You can say the same for elite RBs. Who’s the last one to win a SB?

It’s a rule of thumb that if you have the leading rusher in the NFL you aren’t winning shyt.
 
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What are his options realistically? (Not rhetorical, I'm asking)

It seems like he will be franchised tagged for the next 2-3 years and then thrown in the trash.
 

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You can say the same for elite RBs. What’s the last one to win a SB?

It’s a rule of thumb that if you have the leading rusher in the NFL you aren’t winning shyt.
How many average QBs win Super Bowls, since the Brady era? Not many. Yet teams are more than comfortable with overpaying for average or even below average QBs instead of swapping them out. Ultimately I think Howie Roseman has this figured out: you should always spend draft resources on QBs and develop them. Sure sometimes you're going to have a Jalen Hurts who is worth a massive contract. But if your guy isn't the guy, you should have his replacement on the roster and familiar with the scheme.

The other problem I have is in an era where the Vic Fangio 2 shell safety defenses are kind of dominating the league, running backs should be more important. The main way you counter that defense is with short yardage throws towards the sideline or middle. Since not every team has an elite TE who can simply eat up the middle of the field (Kelce/KC), the next best option is a pass catching RB. That's exactly what Bijan Robinson and Jahmyr Gibbs will be doing this season. And if we start seeing more Kamara type RBs who are capable of getting 600+ receiving yards per season...why shouldn't they get paid?
 

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It's always weird to me. Defense keys in on star running back, leaving the field much more open for average ass QB. Come free agency it seems teams rush to pay the average ass QB big money, while fukking over the star running back that lead to the QB looking decent in the first place instead of just replacing the average QB with a much cheaper average QB and paying the RB.

I fully understand paying the true star QBs. But when you get to the above average and below QBs has any team successfully won a Super Bowl paying one big money.

Much cheaper average QBs are career 2nd stringers..

You would be better off adding an extra receiver and a serviceable RB who is respectable in pass protection and can get 60% of the star RBs production.

It's basically redistribution of resources amongst your offense...

At the end of the day, if the Tannehills of the world can't put the team on his back when it's time, then you just gotta get another one
 

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Except that isn't the argument at all. Some of you act like everything is apples to apples.

A young HB on a rookie contract is valuable.

Teams not wanting to give an HB, a position that takes a lot of wear and tear, a long contract extension after four or five years in the league does not mean they think the position isn't valuable.

How did the contracts for Gurley, Zeke, and Bell turn out? Oh, horrible? Exactly.
You guys just talk and talk and just repeat the propaganda these idiots in the NFL are spreading

Edgerrin James got a 2nd and a 3rd contract and was fine

Corey Dillon signed a 2nd contract and rushed for 1645 yards and led the Patriots to SB victory and got a 3rd one from them after that

Marshall Faulk got traded from the Colts to the Rams and won MVP and got a 2nd contract

Adrian Peterson got a 2nd contract and led the league in rushing after

Jerome Bettis was cast aside by the Rams and had a HOF career in Pittsburgh on a 2nd contract and 3rd contract

This RB shyt is a NUANCED conversation just like every other position in the NFL

Stop repeating propaganda
 
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You guys just talk and talk and just repeat the propaganda these idiots in the NFL are spreading

Edgerrin James got a 2nd and a 3rd contract and was fine

Corey Dillon signed a 2nd contract and rushed for 1645 yards and led the Patriots to SB victory and got a 3rd one from them after that

Marshall Faulk got traded from the Colts to the Rams and won MVP on a 2nd contract

Adrian Peterson got a 2nd contract and led the league in rushing 2 more times

Jerome Bettis was cast aside by the Rams and had a HOF career in Pittsburgh on a 2nd contract and 3rd contracts

This RB shyt is a NUANCED conversation just like every other position in the NFL

Stop repeating propaganda

Training
Recovery
Elimination of the Fullback position
Schemes


Majority of these new era rbs gonna have a steady fall...
 

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Training
Recovery
Elimination of the Fullback position
Schemes


Majority of these new era rbs gonna have a steady fall...
Schemes changing I agree with but the other things like training and recovery are what a back should be doin regularly in order to be available every Sunday not sure what you mean
 
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