Alright. There’s one.
Colts superstar RB Jonathan Taylor requests trade
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And they would’ve won twice if they gave him the ball again. The teams that haven’t won with a top 5 RB are because they never combined him with a semi competent passing game. Vikings went to on a run the year they got Peterson a Brett Favre. The 49ers have fumbled multiple SB attempts with good running games because of subpar QB play. Titans paid Tannehill despite him being the reason they couldn’t go anywhere in the playoffs after Henry was winning them games. It’s a joke.
These people wanna come with these no context empty stupid stats about “You don’t win a SB with a great RB” bullshyt on TV and all these dumb ass articles
If you put a great RB in a situation with no QB and flawed team of course that team is not winning any SBs
Goddam all these “experts” do is fukkin lie to people
IsThatBrothaMouzone?
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League decided to making passing the football easier in '04.
Most QBs were white and nearly all RBs were Black. League didn't want Ravens-type teams led by Ray Lewis-ish nikkas to be the face of the league....so they made things more pass happy and it allows for white offensive players to be the center of attention and hype machine.
While you may get a decent number of brehs at QB like right now....RB will always be 95 to 100% brehs outside of exceptions like CMC.
RBs are very important but disposable, which is the plan. Have a diverse but majority white QB-talent pool as the face of the league while Black RBs get used like a public latrine and paid (relative) pennies. Basically RB is the only position that's extremely important yet completely disposable at the same time. Kickers are similar but they get paid way less.
IsThatBrothaMouzone?
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QB market has too high of a floor. That's the problem.
Teams would love to pay for a Derrick Henry/Patrick Mahomes combo, but they can't afford it. Nowadays, you either put money at OL/WR and build the defense.....or you spend less money on OL/WR to have a better RB.
O-line is too important so you gotta make sure you're straight there.
If your QB is elite....is it better to have "meh" receivers and Derrick Henry or "meh" running backs and Chase/Jefferson/Tyreek? Honestly the overpay may be at WR. Seems like teams mostly use RB when they are middling or rebuilding and then dump them once the Franchise QB is found.
That’s my point. The QB floor is artificial. Teams could easily just say they’re not going to pay guys that sort of money like they do to RBs. The franchise tag also muddies it up. The players should’ve never agreed to that shyt. Like if the Giants look at Daniel Jones and say we’re only paying you 25, who else put there would’ve paid him 40? Teams bid against themselves for QBs but don’t do it for RB.
IsThatBrothaMouzone?
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So the question is.....why?
It's like they just want to give these (mostly) white QBs a bunch of money when they could give them less. It would not be beyond the NFL owners to collude and just agree not to pay as much.
The money could be spread more evenly through each roster and it would likely make teams a little more balanced overall.
Flip side is that with the current setup, QBs eat more into the cap....but tend to play longer than most positions. With reduced rookie contracts since the Bradford/JaMarcus days.....younger players that are good and cheap have more importance.
Basically the owners put the biggest $$$ at the safest position (physically) which is QB and WR nowadays. Then LBs, RBs etc are made more disposable so the young/cheap/good ones are more valuable than the older/expensive/great ones. Funnel more $$$ to low risk players and less $$$ to higher risk players.
The draft and already developed talent from CFB means that NFL teams invest A LOT less into developing players than NHL/MLB/NBA. They put the least effort into growing talent but get the biggest reward financially. NFL ownership is printing money if you have any biz acumen.
The rookie scale was to control costs of veterans asking for more money. But it’s really just about the same people cycling through front offices. The Steelers, Patriots and Ravens were successful largely by not overpaying QBs. The model is right there. The Chiefs are competitive right now because Kelce is paid under market and Mahomes is to a degree. They’re also refusing to give big money to Jones like they did Tyreke. Chargers and Jaguars are trying to win now before big money comes to Herbert and Lawrence, etc.
Kings County
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rookie rbs contracts need to be 2 years not 4
I'd say 3, but after that they gotta either sign a long term deal or they become free agents and there is no franchise tag. So if teams want a player, they gotta commit fully.
Kings County
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rbs gotta go 2 year max deals stop tryna get 5 years
duckbutta
eienaar van mans
The real problem for running backs is there is no other positions to push them because that is how you get paid.
Once upon a time offensive linemen didnt get paid shyt...then defensive ends started blowing up QB's...then teams started saying maybe I need to spend real money on lineman to keep the highest paid player on my team on the field.
Also a QB don't even have to complete a pass to move the ball. He can throw it at a defender back for a penalty and yardage. He can dip his head when he get hit for a penalty and yardage. He can fall on the ground and grab his knee for a penalty and yardage. He can be complete garbage but get you 60 yards downfield cause he threw a pass 12 yards over a receiver head and the receiver flopped.
If you hit a running back in the legs what penalty is that? If you hit a running back in the head what penalty is that? QB and receivers get hit in the helmet its roughing the passer and personal foul. Running back gets hit in the head its 3 straight replays on monday night football taking about "listen to the pop of those pads."
The whole "Elite QB" title is a complete scam. You can make an argument that their is no such thing as an "elite QB"
