Congressman John D. Conyers Reparations Bill HR40

[Michael9100]

Reparations can only be paid to the people affected by Jim Crow..... and their descendants....

 

[mcdivit85]

Yea we could use that check. What I'm laughing at is why wouldn't they want to do it asap? It's not like most nikkas is into GROUP ECONOMICS and spending the bread with our own

Most nikkas would basically throw the money right back at these cacs in they stores, etc. it's 50 million of us tho too.... Anything less than, say, 15K means little. Whoever said a "black Israel" I lowkey like that

But (white) Israel is consumed with war and bloodshed. The only reason they ain't iraq status is because the U.S. protecting them. They wouldn't do that for us.

That's why reparations shouldn't be in cash form. It should be in the form of assets. Assets that have been historically acquired either directly or indirectly via the profits gained from the uncompensated labor of enslaved Africans in America.

This could be land and/or ownership of resources(cotton, sugar, denim, etc.). Or it could be come in the form of no taxation, universal free education, business grants, federal land grants, etc.

Cash runs out anyway, so that would not suit the issue since the pain and suffering of Africans in American has not run out. Assets would change the picture of blacks damn near overnight.

Peace

 

[mcdivit85]

Breh, I'm not advocating all black people move to Africa. That's logistically impossible (plus there's too many black people who want absolutely nothing to do with Africa anyway). What I am advocating is every single black person fight to secure a legitimate future for ourselves. There's power in numbers so where ever we're currently dominating, move there and do your part to hold the fort down. Start and grow a business if you're the entrepreneurial type, if not do everything within your power to keep your dollars in the hands of black people. Consider running for local politics and make your agenda 100% black. Take your money and support initiatives that are out there that's attempting to do shyt exclusively for black people.

We all see the problems we face and we all know the obstacles in front of us. If we want shyt to change, then we gotta change. If not it's gonna be another 400 years of oppression for us

Right now I'm planning to do the empowerment experiment. There was a black owned grocery store out here, but it closed down. Right now I'm trying to find all of the black business in my area and see if I can go 6 months straight without giving a penny to cacs. I'm gonna set a meeting up with the mortgage department of my bank to see if they'll take over my mortgages so I don't have to pay the current company I'm with.

Sounds like you're following in the footsteps of Maggie Anderson who did a similar experiment except hers was for a year. She wrote a book about it as well-"Our Black Year."

http://www.authormaggieanderson.com/

Good idea.

Peace

 

[AntiVenom]

the question isnt whether or not its deserved, because it is

the question is how do you give it out

Money. Lump sum. In addition to being tax free for a generation or two. Give us half a million. Double that if you were born in the jim crow era. That would be enough for us to solve just about all of our problems. Every individual would be able to decide their own fate at that point.

 

[mcdivit85]

Money. Lump sum. In addition to being tax free for a generation or two. Give us half a million. Double that if you were born in the jim crow era. That would be enough for us to solve just about all of our problems. Every individual would be able to decide their own fate at that point.

Bro, if you gave each black person $500K, all that would mean is more money for white-owned companies. N#ggas love buying status items, so that would mean more money for Louis Vuitton, Loubutin, Mercedes Benz, Jordans and other n#gga trinkets.

In my opinion, reparations should be in the form of either assets or programs that directly impact descendants of enslaved Africans in America. Cash is too easily parted.

Peace

 

[↓R↑LYB]

Sounds like you're following in the footsteps of Maggie Anderson who did a similar experiment except hers was for a year. She wrote a book about it as well-"Our Black Year."

http://www.authormaggieanderson.com/

Good idea.

Peace

That's exactly what I'm doing. Made a thread about her experience a few weeks back:

http://www.thecoli.com/threads/one-familys-effort-to-buy-black-for-a-year.286755/

 

[AntiVenom]

Bro, if you gave each black person $500K, all that would mean is more money for white-owned companies. N#ggas love buying status items, so that would mean more money for Louis Vuitton, Loubutin, Mercedes Benz, Jordans and other n#gga trinkets.

In my opinion, reparations should be in the form of either assets or programs that directly impact descendants of enslaved Africans in America. Cash is too easily parted.

Peace

I cant agree with this approach at all because it robs black people of the ability to choose. Our ancestors were denied choices and I think giving us the decision on what we do with the money individually will be a step in the right direction. Not to mention that you cant say in one breath that were owed this money...and then try to take away people's right to how it should or shouldnt be spent if it rightfully belongs to them....right? Im just sayin.

Youre right though the money may end up like that. Plenty of black people will waste it youre right. Even if they do its their money to waste. I say let them because that shouldnt be anyone else's decision. You gotta realize many others will see that and turn lives around with that money. Others will turn that money into a gold mine. Have more faith man.

I dont think reparations should be centralized at all. If were making the argument that our ancestors were worked to death and this is what they are owed....then it needs to be put in the hands of their descendents directly. It shouldnt be left to some bureaucracy to decide what we do with the money. What sense does that make man? Let black people speak for themselves. If enough black people want these programs and assets....then they'll take the money that they are given and invest in that. And if not? Then they wont. Either way the money needs to be put directly in the hands of the descents that its owed. Otherwise whats the point saying that our ancestors werent paid for their labor? I dont want to see black people robbed of the ability to decide what they should do with the money that was owed to their ancestors. That shouldnt be anyone else's decision. Choice is essential here. Infact reparations would be worthless without it.

 

[Panther]

Bro, if you gave each black person $500K, all that would mean is more money for white-owned companies. N#ggas love buying status items, so that would mean more money for Louis Vuitton, Loubutin, Mercedes Benz, Jordans and other n#gga trinkets.

In my opinion, reparations should be in the form of either assets or programs that directly impact descendants of enslaved Africans in America. Cash is too easily parted.

Peace

Once again, other groups have recieved cash from governing bodies and have been just fine. Why shouldnt we get exaclty the same opportunity? If some dumb nikkas wanna blow it on jordans then let em.... Was probably a few clowns in the other groups who blew their cash too. As for me im gonna get with some like minded brothers and sister and build something. Give me my cash

 

[mcdivit85]

I cant agree with this approach at all because it robs black people of the ability to choose. Our ancestors were denied choices and I think giving us the decision on what we do with the money individually will be a step in the right direction. Not to mention that you cant say in one breath that were owed this money...and then try to take away people's right to how it should or shouldnt be spent if it rightfully belongs to them....right? Im just sayin.

Youre right though the money may end up like that. Plenty of black people will waste it youre right. Even if they do its their money to waste. I say let them because that shouldnt be anyone else's decision. You gotta realize many others will see that and turn lives around with that money. Others will turn that money into a gold mine. Have more faith man.

I dont think reparations should be centralized at all. If were making the argument that our ancestors were worked to death and this is what they are owed....then it needs to be put in the hands of their descendents directly. It shouldnt be left to some bureaucracy to decide what we do with the money. What sense does that make man? Let black people speak for themselves. If enough black people want these programs and assets....then they'll take the money that they are given and invest in that. And if not? Then they wont. Either way the money needs to be put directly in the hands of the descents that its owed. Otherwise whats the point saying that our ancestors werent paid for their labor? I dont want to see black people robbed of the ability to decide what they should do with the money that was owed to their ancestors. That shouldnt be anyone else's decision. Choice is essential here. Infact reparations would be worthless without it.

Reparations is simply about giving blacks money, so they "can make their own choice." It's about evening the societal scales. The societal scales that were set in place when one group was used to the benefit of another group. The societal scales that allow black people to be treated like second class citizens en masse.

The issue comes down to us having two different ideas on the use of reparations. You see it as a personal disenfranchisement while I see it as a group disenfranchisement. Black people weren't disenfranchised and treated like cattle as individuals. They were exploited as a group.

Either way, I obvously disagree with your notion.

Peace

 

[AntiVenom]

Reparations is simply about giving blacks money, so they "can make their own choice." It's about evening the societal scales. The societal scales that were set in place when one group was used to the benefit of another group. The societal scales that allow black people to be treated like second class citizens en masse.

The issue comes down to us having two different ideas on the use of reparations. You see it as a personal disenfranchisement while I see it as a group disenfranchisement. Black people weren't disenfranchised and treated like cattle as individuals. They were exploited as a group.

Either way, I obvously disagree with your notion.

Peace

Thats not what I said at all. The money is owed to our ancestors because they were enslaved and worked without wages in addition to being subjected to numerous acts of cruelty. Because they arent alive to be paid for their labor....their descendents should be the ones to receive it...individually. And because their ancestors suffered its up to them to make their own choice about how the money should be spent.

The dollar amount that I suggested is more than enough for us to start leveling the scales. En masse. Its just that you want to take the choice away from the individual in regards to how this should be done. I say let black people decide on what should be done based on consensus. Meaning that black people will put the money that they receive where they feel it needs to be put. Some will fukk it up like you said...but many wont. And I cant advocate the decision being taken away. I say let people make their own mistakes.

So yes we do have different views on the use of reparations. And I see it as a person disenfranchisement it is a group disenfranchisement. I just dont think that it should be a group decision on what should be done with said reparations. The choice should be up to the descendents as individuals. So we'll have to agree to disagree.

 

[LordTaskForce]

If it was a GAY reparations bill, Obama would've been did an executive order on it.

that's just not true.

 

[mcdivit85]

Once again, other groups have recieved cash from governing bodies and have been just fine. Why shouldnt we get exaclty the same opportunity? If some dumb nikkas wanna blow it on jordans then let em.... Was probably a few clowns in the other groups who blew their cash too. As for me im gonna get with some like minded brothers and sister and build something. Give me my cash

I disagree with that notion. I don't believe reparations should be used a "payday", rather as a way of evening the societal scales that affect our lives even to this day. Societal scales that were built, so one group can benefit off the misfortune of another.

I side with assets used to benefit the group instead of cash for the individual.

Peace

 

[Scott Larock]

Good job breh, this type of things shut down the c00ns and slave negroes.

 

[Black Magisterialness]

rep, and rep.



but this is coming from detroit......... just the protection for Assata Shakur thing is from Detroit.........

for whatever reason people ignore africans in Michigan.

People forget just how important Detroit is for the African-American community as a whole through out history.

 

[-DMP-]

Im in for assets.

Lighter taxes(on land and on income), Free college education (first 2 years atleast, or a flat scholarship), and damn near interest free loans to open businesses or buy homes.

-DMP-