Congressman John D. Conyers Reparations Bill HR40

[2Quik4UHoes]

I never thought about that. It could work if there are people who are ready to get involved in it who want to put into the fund to get the books. I already have em, @bdizzle already has em, and you can get em easily. So that pretty much leaves everyone else and so far, no one else has really responded to me about the idea. But I truly believe that if we got something going, it could snowball into something bigger.

That's the thing about alot of black literature, alot of the books go out of print and become very expensive to track down. I remember Blueprint was around $500 before the book was reprinted and circulated. Neely Fuller's book was one of those gems I should have bought when I had the chance to when it was cheap on ebay. Now I can barely find it.

Once yall got some shyt goin let me know and I'll do my part.

Yeah, a lot of good shyt has gone out of print for whatever reason. I keep thinking I'll find it somewhere but it feels impossible. I'm sure at some point they'll be re-published. Takes time though. That's why you gotta get books while you can and never let anyone borrow them.

 

[J-Nice]

Once yall got some shyt goin let me know and I'll do my part.

Yeah, a lot of good shyt has gone out of print for whatever reason. I keep thinking I'll find it somewhere but it feels impossible. I'm sure at some point they'll be re-published. Takes time though. That's why you gotta get books while you can and never let anyone borrow them.

Will do breh. Hopefully people will be down to follow through, but I'll definitely will be using Sankofa from now since the black bookstore in my City just closed unfortunately. I just found a site that is selling Fuller's books.

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

Will do breh. Hopefully people will be down to follow through, but I'll definitely will be using Sankofa from now since the black bookstore in my City just closed unfortunately. I just found a site that is selling Fuller's books.

Link me.

 

[J-Nice]

Link me.

http://producejustice.com/

 

[CriticalThought]

Breh if we finally get reparations why would we even consider working for cacs ?

We could take that money, create businesses for all the stuff black people need, and hire ourselves so we never have to worry about white discrimination again.

I'm not an optimist, I'm a realist. The system doesn't throw slaves behind bars because their mind has already successfully jailed them. It's the people that don't conform are the ones that need the physical bars. Thinking reparations is like a shot in the dark to be honest. No other group would support us in that endeavor. They'd stand to lose too much. That sucks but that's the brutal reality of America.

Even if every black person got a check, most black people ain't on it like that. You have to develop institutions and deprogram them. Its sad but true. Give the average AA a stack of money and you have a pretty good idea of how it'll be spent. Black people who are about independence wouldn't dream of working, living or putting that money in the "others" businesses. But can you say the average black person thinks like that? Of course not. If that was the case we wouldn't be talking about reparations. Black America produces over 1 trillion (plenty more when you add in the underground economy) annually. Literally there's no need for reparations. There's enough money to make that happen.

Let me ask you. Are there laws on books that force blacks to drop money in white banks that won't loan to them (or get subprime)? Support non-black businesses in their community that are parasitical? Spend cash on institutions like churches that do nothing but sell dreams about the afterlife? Am I the only dude who's seen $40-$60,000 dollars cars with dudes living in projects and section 8?

It's just the reality that most people are followers. You at best have 10% that's bout it, bout it for any given cause. Those are the people that matter because those are the ones you don't need to invest valuable time and resources on, or teach them. They already know what's needed and will make it happen. We have to empower them and/or keep them powered.

Instead of reparations what we need is organization, trust in fellow brothas, and loss of ego for a higher calling. That's a David vs. Goliath struggle. These whites wouldn't give us the sweat off their nuts if we were on fire. We all know that.

I'd rather see some verified black people who can be trusted to handle business take the lead. Let that be their job while we handle our day to day. We could make more black milllionaires crowdfunding than anything else. If we could get 10,000 people give $100 dollars a month we'd have a millionaire on line each month to start breaking ground. Not just millionaires, thousandaires and etc. that could stimulate local black economies and build from ground up. There's 40+ million of us. It's not hard.

Reparations are nice, but we can't even get America to not treat us like domestic terrorists. We need contingencies for contingencies. fukk plan B we need plans up to Z. Radical problems require radical solutions. The one thing I do know is this process will have to go through white people. The same whites who won't even indict a white person to go through a grand jury for killing one of us. I try not to be a pessimist but if it requires whites to sign off, it's already dead in the water.

 

[↓R↑LYB]

I'm not an optimist, I'm a realist. The system doesn't throw slaves behind bars because their mind has already successfully jailed them. It's the people that don't conform are the ones that need the physical bars. Thinking reparations is like a shot in the dark to be honest. No other group would support us in that endeavor. They'd stand to lose too much. That sucks but that's the brutal reality of America.

Even if every black person got a check, most black people ain't on it like that. You have to develop institutions and deprogram them. Its sad but true. Give the average AA a stack of money and you have a pretty good idea of how it'll be spent. Black people who are about independence wouldn't dream of working, living or putting that money in the "others" businesses. But can you say the average black person thinks like that? Of course not. If that was the case we wouldn't be talking about reparations. Black America produces over 1 trillion (plenty more when you add in the underground economy) annually. Literally there's no need for reparations. There's enough money to make that happen.

Let me ask you. Are there laws on books that force blacks to drop money in white banks that won't loan to them (or get subprime)? Support non-black businesses in their community that are parasitical? Spend cash on institutions like churches that do nothing but sell dreams about the afterlife? Am I the only dude who's seen $40-$60,000 dollars cars with dudes living in projects and section 8?

It's just the reality that most people are followers. You at best have 10% that's bout it, bout it for any given cause. Those are the people that matter because those are the ones you don't need to invest valuable time and resources on, or teach them. They already know what's needed and will make it happen. We have to empower them and/or keep them powered.

Instead of reparations what we need is organization, trust in fellow brothas, and loss of ego for a higher calling. That's a David vs. Goliath struggle. These whites wouldn't give us the sweat off their nuts if we were on fire. We all know that.

I'd rather see some verified black people who can be trusted to handle business take the lead. Let that be their job while we handle our day to day. We could make more black milllionaires crowdfunding than anything else. If we could get 10,000 people give $100 dollars a month we'd have a millionaire on line each month to start breaking ground. Not just millionaires, thousandaires and etc. that could stimulate local black economies and build from ground up. There's 40+ million of us. It's not hard.

Reparations are nice, but we can't even get America to not treat us like domestic terrorists. We need contingencies for contingencies. fukk plan B we need plans up to Z. Radical problems require radical solutions. The one thing I do know is this process will have to go through white people. The same whites who won't even indict a white person to go through a grand jury for killing one of us. I try not to be a pessimist but if it requires whites to sign off, it's already dead in the water.

@ that post

 

[CriticalThought]

@ that post

I'm not trying to sound like a hater. That's just a few things that I've witnessed in my life. Believe me, I've stuck my neck out and got chopped for it. I still haven't worked out all the poison people slipped into me years ago. Black empowerment/ black liberation is the key....it always has been and will always be that way. But I spent more time trying to convince people to see something that they couldn't or wouldn't want to see. I tried and burned a lot of energy to no avail. That's why I advocate working with only people who think like you think and believe like you believe. Think how much time is saved not having to argue about trivial shyt. None of us are gonna have it perfect and we won't always agree, but as long as there's an objective, a long term plan we'll get there.If we can identify those who are willing to make it happen, get their weight up, focus on them then we're good. First is identifying those who are really about using their talents for the betterment of our situation. Once we can identify them and link up then we're golden.

 

[↓R↑LYB]

I'm not trying to sound like a hater. That's just a few things that I've witnessed in my life. Believe me, I've stuck my neck out and got chopped for it. I still haven't worked out all the poison people slipped into me years ago. Black empowerment/ black liberation is the key....it always has been and will always be that way. But I spent more time trying to convince people to see something that they couldn't or wouldn't want to see. I tried and burned a lot of energy to no avail. That's why I advocate working with only people who think like you think and believe like you believe. Think how much time is saved not having to argue about trivial shyt. None of us are gonna have it perfect and we won't always agree, but as long as there's an objective, a long term plan we'll get there.If we can identify those who are willing to make it happen, get their weight up, focus on them then we're good. First is identifying those who are really about using their talents for the betterment of our situation. Once we can identify them and link up then we're golden.

Breh, I meant the length, not the content. I ain't even read that shyt

 

[CriticalThought]

Breh, I meant the length, not the content. I ain't even read that shyt

Sorry something as serious as this issue has you fukked up. Next time I'll try to sum up something as serious as this in a sentence and a smiley.

 

[↓R↑LYB]

Sorry something as serious as this issue has you fukked up. Next time I'll try to sum up something as serious as this in a sentence and a smiley.

Breh, reading shyt that long I gotta be in the right state of mind. I know y'all nikkas gotta lotta shyt on you chest but y'all be coming through with fukking manuscripts and shyt. I'll read it eventually cause it seems like a nikkas was pouring his soul out in that one

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

http://producejustice.com/

lol, I'ma fukk around and go there personally and demand that wholesale deal.

 

[J-Nice]

lol, I'ma fukk around and go there personally and demand that wholesale deal.

Save me a copy nikka before you buy the whole site!

 

[↓R↑LYB]

Aight breh, I'm gonna reply to your post. @At30wecashout I got you next breh. Y'all some long typin ass Africans man

I'm not an optimist, I'm a realist. The system doesn't throw slaves behind bars because their mind has already successfully jailed them. It's the people that don't conform are the ones that need the physical bars. Thinking reparations is like a shot in the dark to be honest. No other group would support us in that endeavor. They'd stand to lose too much. That sucks but that's the brutal reality of America.

I agree 100% breh. We're not going to be "given" reparations. The only way it'll happen is if we put ourselves in the position where we can demand it and actually have consequences if the US government doesn't comply. At this point though we're depending on the kindness of our enemies.

Even if every black person got a check, most black people ain't on it like that. You have to develop institutions and deprogram them. Its sad but true. Give the average AA a stack of money and you have a pretty good idea of how it'll be spent. Black people who are about independence wouldn't dream of working, living or putting that money in the "others" businesses. But can you say the average black person thinks like that? Of course not. If that was the case we wouldn't be talking about reparations. Black America produces over 1 trillion (plenty more when you add in the underground economy) annually. Literally there's no need for reparations. There's enough money to make that happen.

I agree 100% breh. Which is why I've been trying to get dudes on this site to be conscious about where they spend they're money. I've been doing some research and there's a lot more black owned products than I realized. So right now my goal is to get to the point where AT LEAST 50% of my money goes to black businesses. I'm not sure if you seen this video, but it talks about a family who went a whole year only shopping black. I showed my girl this and she's down to give it a shot. I just need to take the time to find all the black owned businesses to make sure I can stick with it for the entire 3 months.

Let me ask you. Are there laws on books that force blacks to drop money in white banks that won't loan to them (or get subprime)? Support non-black businesses in their community that are parasitical? Spend cash on institutions like churches that do nothing but sell dreams about the afterlife? Am I the only dude who's seen $40-$60,000 dollars cars with dudes living in projects and section 8?

Breh, I agree 100% man. It's why I went and opened an account with a black bank and why I'm gonna purchase mutual funds exclusively though Ariel Investments. I told myself that all I can do is do my part, and try to educate the masses of our people to look after their own self interest. Personally I believe it's our repsonsibility as those who consider ourselves to be "conscious" to wake up the rest of these Africans to start doing for self. I got some plans underway, I just need to get focused and get more passionate about it.

It's just the reality that most people are followers. You at best have 10% that's bout it, bout it for any given cause. Those are the people that matter because those are the ones you don't need to invest valuable time and resources on, or teach them. They already know what's needed and will make it happen. We have to empower them and/or keep them powered.

Real shyt fam the shyt you're saying sound like it came out my own mouth no homo. It's why I told myself it's my responsibility to be a leader. There's this perception going around now that black people don't need leaders, but we definitely do. Everyone doesn't have a vision for our race that'll put us in a better position. And not everyone that has a vision, has the desire to put themselves out there like that. I feel I have both so I'm placing the burden on my own shoulders to attempt to lead my people out of oppression.

Instead of reparations what we need is organization, trust in fellow brothas, and loss of ego for a higher calling. That's a David vs. Goliath struggle. These whites wouldn't give us the sweat off their nuts if we were on fire. We all know that.

Ok now I'm starting to think you been reading my posts and decided to just swagga jack all the shyt I been sayin on this site

Lemme guess, you live in Atlatna too......

I'd rather see some verified black people who can be trusted to handle business take the lead. Let that be their job while we handle our day to day. We could make more black milllionaires crowdfunding than anything else. If we could get 10,000 people give $100 dollars a month we'd have a millionaire on line each month to start breaking ground. Not just millionaires, thousandaires and etc. that could stimulate local black economies and build from ground up. There's 40+ million of us. It's not hard.

I know breh, i know The biggest problem is the masses of our people bought into this idea that race isn't the real issue. Even in Ferguson when I went down there, I heard so many people say "It's not about race, it's about police brutality" or something to that effect. It's like we're scared to even talk about our oppression or white supremacy. We want to ignore it as much as possible (and I honestly understand why). But again, it goes back to having people who's job it is to wake our people up. A lot of us are essentially the walking dead though

Reparations are nice, but we can't even get America to not treat us like domestic terrorists. We need contingencies for contingencies. fukk plan B we need plans up to Z. Radical problems require radical solutions. The one thing I do know is this process will have to go through white people. The same whites who won't even indict a white person to go through a grand jury for killing one of us. I try not to be a pessimist but if it requires whites to sign off, it's already dead in the water.

I agree 100% breh. Which is why I think that we need to put the focus on shyt we actually can control. Put our money and investments in black institutions. Go out of our way to support black businesses. Donate and volunteer to causes that help black people exclusively. The largest private group of employers of black people are black businesses. So if we want to begin to fix a lot of our problems (many of which are economic) it starts with keeping our money 100% black. Only buy our cars from black owned dealerships, only by our clothes from black designers, only buy our food from black grocers.....you get the drift. We really don't need cacs for anything. All we need is the desire to do for self.

 

[rapbeats]

Aight breh, I'm gonna reply to your post. @At30wecashout I got you next breh. Y'all some long typin ass Africans man



I agree 100% breh. We're not going to be "given" reparations. The only way it'll happen is if we put ourselves in the position where we can demand it and actually have consequences if the US government doesn't comply. At this point though we're depending on the kindness of our enemies.



I agree 100% breh. Which is why I've been trying to get dudes on this site to be conscious about where they spend they're money. I've been doing some research and there's a lot more black owned products than I realized. So right now my goal is to get to the point where AT LEAST 50% of my money goes to black businesses. I'm not sure if you seen this video, but it talks about a family who went a whole year only shopping black. I showed my girl this and she's down to give it a shot. I just need to take the time to find all the black owned businesses to make sure I can stick with it for the entire 3 months.





Breh, I agree 100% man. It's why I went and opened an account with a black bank and why I'm gonna purchase mutual funds exclusively though Ariel Investments. I told myself that all I can do is do my part, and try to educate the masses of our people to look after their own self interest. Personally I believe it's our repsonsibility as those who consider ourselves to be "conscious" to wake up the rest of these Africans to start doing for self. I got some plans underway, I just need to get focused and get more passionate about it.



Real shyt fam the shyt you're saying sound like it came out my own mouth no homo. It's why I told myself it's my responsibility to be a leader. There's this perception going around now that black people don't need leaders, but we definitely do. Everyone doesn't have a vision for our race that'll put us in a better position. And not everyone that has a vision, has the desire to put themselves out there like that. I feel I have both so I'm placing the burden on my own shoulders to attempt to lead my people out of oppression.



Ok now I'm starting to think you been reading my posts and decided to just swagga jack all the shyt I been sayin on this site

Lemme guess, you live in Atlatna too......



I know breh, i know The biggest problem is the masses of our people bought into this idea that race isn't the real issue. Even in Ferguson when I went down there, I heard so many people say "It's not about race, it's about police brutality" or something to that effect. It's like we're scared to even talk about our oppression or white supremacy. We want to ignore it as much as possible (and I honestly understand why). But again, it goes back to having people who's job it is to wake our people up. A lot of us are essentially the walking dead though



I agree 100% breh. Which is why I think that we need to put the focus on shyt we actually can control. Put our money and investments in black institutions. Go out of our way to support black businesses. Donate and volunteer to causes that help black people exclusively. The largest private group of employers of black people are black businesses. So if we want to begin to fix a lot of our problems (many of which are economic) it starts with keeping our money 100% black. Only buy our cars from black owned dealerships, only by our clothes from black designers, only buy our food from black grocers.....you get the drift. We really don't need cacs for anything. All we need is the desire to do for self.

please go back and listen to Claude anderson. please.

you do realize we dont have enough of these businesses to support all black people nation wide. even if we tried to support those business, they cant support the rest of us. thats a fact of just numbers.

you think you dont need "the white man" who is the majority in this country by numbers and has a huge majority of the wealth, land, businesses, controls education, the armed forces, the police, etc. and yet we dont need them for anything? oh really.
So how are you going to get your fruit, veggies, beef, chicken, etc when you realize most of the farm owners are white? "grow my own" oh really. you do realize every climate and soil isnt good for every type of crop right? you got room for cows, chickens? wait... the white man has rules in the inner cities where you cant just house those animals willy nilly.

a black man has a dodge/ford/chrysler dealership. where is he getting the cars from? Dodge/ford/chrysler plants. who owns those plants? White men.

bu bu but we dont need the white ma... STop being naive. This is why after you listen to what claude says about reparations you will realize why we need it. and yes its obtainable. the native americans got it. how did they get it? HOW? the jews got it, how did they get it? The japanese got it, how did they get it?

You too can get it. you have to be strategic about as claude states. not just some run up to the white house steps asking for reparations. it doesnt work like that. you need to get all of the intel you can own how much they owe us based on all of the slavery, racism/white supremacy, etc. from then til now. taily the numbers up with facts. then present the numbers to a law firm(that we put together). have that law firm go on a hunt with law suits in hand with facts to back them up. not just in the US but internationally too.

 

[↓R↑LYB]

I swear you long typin mahfukkas man

please go back and listen to Claude anderson. please.

you do realize we dont have enough of these businesses to support all black people nation wide. even if we tried to support those business, they cant support the rest of us. thats a fact of just numbers.

I know that. When I say black people need to work for black people I'm talking about the ultimate goal and it's something we should strive to achieve. The #1 private employer of black people are black businesses. In some places our unemployment rate goes as high as 50% for black men. If we want to fix that we're gonna need black people to start companies that will employ those cats who want to work.

you think you dont need "the white man" who is the majority in this country by numbers and has a huge majority of the wealth, land, businesses, controls education, the armed forces, the police, etc. and yet we dont need them for anything? oh really.
So how are you going to get your fruit, veggies, beef, chicken, etc when you realize most of the farm owners are white? "grow my own" oh really. you do realize every climate and soil isnt good for every type of crop right? you got room for cows, chickens? wait... the white man has rules in the inner cities where you cant just house those animals willy nilly.

When I say we don't need the white man for anything, I mean if we wanted to we could have all of our own institutions like we had pre integration. Included everything you listed. But again, it's gonna take black people to have the desire to 1) get into farming and agriculture again and 2) be conscious enough to want to support those institutions.

As far as government goes, black people who have a pro black agenda should be at these seats. Right now in cities like Ferguson, you have a white mayor and majority of the city council is white. That's a problem.

a black man has a dodge/ford/chrysler dealership. where is he getting the cars from? Dodge/ford/chrysler plants. who owns those plants? White men.

Once again, I'm talking about the future. Besides, there is a Nigerian auto manufacturer called Innoson motors. Now the question is will African Americans be proud to import those vehicles and drive them or will we still desire to drive cars built by the companies you listed?

bu bu but we dont need the white ma... STop being naive. This is why after you listen to what claude says about reparations you will realize why we need it. and yes its obtainable. the native americans got it. how did they get it? HOW? the jews got it, how did they get it? The japanese got it, how did they get it?

Again, we don't need them. If we organize and get serious about it, we can have our own everything. Look at what Garvey did in about 15 years of him working. We had our own international shipping vessel. If we got organized we could have African American owned everything especially considering our disposable income is MAGNITUDES more than it was in the 1920's.

You too can get it. you have to be strategic about as claude states. not just some run up to the white house steps asking for reparations. it doesnt work like that. you need to get all of the intel you can own how much they owe us based on all of the slavery, racism/white supremacy, etc. from then til now. taily the numbers up with facts. then present the numbers to a law firm(that we put together). have that law firm go on a hunt with law suits in hand with facts to back them up. not just in the US but internationally too.

Breh, when I say we can't get reparations I'm basing it off the fact we have no power. Right now if you go to the US (as well as the international community) and bring a case to them you know what they're gonna say? They're gonna say no. Why are they gonna say no? Because there's literally nothing we can do enforce any penalties on them. We have no tangible power.

If the goal is to get reparations, then black people are going to have to get serious about it. We're going to have to be conscious with where we spend our money so the few black businesses we own can continue to employee black people.
We're gonna have to put our money in black financial institutions so black men and women who need a business loan can get one.
We're gonna have to pool our money together and start VC clubs so we can finance technology companies and not have to worry about being shut out due to discrimination.

And I can go on and on. With the money we have right now as black people, we can literally start any and everything we want. Our consumer spending is 1.2 trillion dollars, 97% of which goes right into other people's bank accounts so they can invest back into the community they live. If we used our money wisely, we can end our unemployment, have black owned everything, and then put ourselves in the position to DEMAND reparations and actually have some muscle to put behind it.

But it all comes down to desire. Do we desire to do those things and are we willing to sacrifice to make it happen. Personally my goal is to make everything in my own come from a black owned company or sourced from a black distributor if possible. I want every article of clothes I wear to be the same. But unless we collectively do those things, one person isn't going to have much of an impact. Which is why I always say black people need to join organizations, get an agenda, and stick with it.