Connecticut passes bill giving electoral votes to presidential candidate who wins popular vote

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I don't exactly understand what this question means.

My two options are:

1. Get rid of the electoral college completely and just have a popular vote based presidential election like the rest of the elections in this country.

2. Keep the electoral college but have the electoral votes be proportionally based off of the voting percentages.

For example, if candidate won California by the vote of 60% to 31%, the candidate with 60% would get 33 electoral votes and the candidate with 31% would get 17 electoral college votes (CA has 55 electoral college votes).
Option 2 seems reasonable, but I still don’t believe the damage to social cohesion would be worth it...
It would just open the door for another Trump...

Whites don’t actually have to be marginalized to feel like they are.
 

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Option 2 seems reasonable, but I still don’t believe the damage to social cohesion would be worth it...
It would just open the door for another Trump...

Whites don’t actually have to be marginalized to feel like they are.

It seems like what you're saying is we shouldn't fix a system that's currently broken so we don't make white people uncomfortable. Because that might hurt their feelings and lead to them doing what their already doing.:dahell:

If that's not your position please clear it up for me.
 

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It seems like what you're saying is we shouldn't fix a system that's currently broken so we don't make white people uncomfortable. Because that might hurt their feelings and lead to them doing what their already doing.:dahell:

If that's not your position please clear it up for me.
I don’t believe it’s a fix... it’s just trading one set of problems for another...
...and honestly I don’t believe there is a fix or perfect system.

:yeshrug:
That said, I find swing states holding sway preferable to coastal high density states with largely predetermined votes.
...and oppose anything that gives one side of the isle an insurmountable advantage. Even if it’s my side.
I prefer an America in the middle and a direct democracy in the current climate seems to me like it would do more harm than good.





I consider “making whites uncomfortable” an added cost to the proposition. Nothing more...
If you see it as a bonus, I ain’t mad you :myman:
 

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What "social cohesion"?
I don’t understand, are you suggesting there is zero social cohesion? If not, I’m not sure what your asking...
If you are suggesting such, then you probably don’t know what zero social cohesion looks like.



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‘Social cohesion is defined as the willingness of members of a society to cooperate with each other in order to survive and prosper.’
 

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I don’t understand, are you suggesting there is zero social cohesion? If not, I’m not sure what your asking...
If you are suggesting such, then you probably don’t know what zero social cohesion looks like.



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‘Social cohesion is defined as the willingness of members of a society to cooperate with each other in order to survive and prosper.’
You got it fam:mjlol:
 

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Can’t believe I’m hearing blacks (12% of the pop) saying we need direct democracy in a country that hates them.
:wow:

:russ:....:jbhmm: the country hates blacks but we should split the vote? :jbhmm: the country hates blacks but we should trust the free market?

Option 2 seems reasonable, but I still don’t believe the damage to social cohesion would be worth it...
It would just open the door for another Trump...

Whites don’t actually have to be marginalized to feel like they are.

:deadrose: One second the country hates blacks, now you don't want to "damage social cohesion"
 

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It seems like what you're saying is we shouldn't fix a system that's currently broken so we don't make white people uncomfortable. Because that might hurt their feelings and lead to them doing what their already doing.:dahell:

If that's not your position please clear it up for me.
This is exactly his position. All that black liberation / self determination shyt went out the window with the quickness.

:heh: you would think a libertarian would want popular vote
 

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In theory the exact reverse of what we saw with trump where a Hitler could lose despite being more popular.
Under direct democracy there’s no safeguard.


... and I don’t believe the votes mean more by design. Coastal states simply more attractive, and the citizenry has dispersed accordingly.
Moreover, direct democracy would further erode social cohesion.

Silly, considering many black people view Trump as a Hitler-type, who won because of the electoral college.
 

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Making whites feel marginalized always hurts social cohesion.
I understand you must believe they wouldn’t succeed from the union in order to hold your position... but what if you are wrong?
:leostare:
Is the what 3 times the popular candidate lost enough to justify the risk?




As a pure numbers game this would change the game in favor of liberals, especially if it’s followed by automatic registration and some measures that make voting easier.
So I don’t expect a liberal to oppose this in any way. There is simply no reason not to, and there’s no reason for conservatives to support as it dooms their party.
It’s just a partisan issue with zero common ground
If the succeed they succeed.:yeshrug:

I'm not about keep implementing systems so a declining white population gets their ego stroked. They better deal with it.
 

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:russ:....:jbhmm: the country hates blacks but we should split the vote? :jbhmm: the country hates blacks but we should trust the free market?



:deadrose: One second the country hates blacks, now you don't want to "damage social cohesion"
Don’t believe in splitting the vote, that’s twism and I don’t want to further damage*
It can always get worse:ufdup:
 

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This is exactly his position. All that black liberation / self determination shyt went out the window with the quickness.

:heh: you would think a libertarian would want popular vote
:mjlol: Never!
Collectivism is easier to digest for a citizenry as misinformed as America’s.
A popular vote dooms conservativism.
 
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