Cop man handles black girl in classroom

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Forcefully? Eventually. It was going to have to happen. The rules stated that she had to leave and she removed. THE EXTENT of that force can be debated
No.

No.
She broke some rule enough that the teacher called for assistance in removing the student.

This matters.

I don't support how the cop behaved, but lets not ignore that he was called for a reason.
With this you give the administration all the benefit of the doubt and the child none.

You blindly follow what they say without asking why she needed to be removed in the first place.


"She broke some rule" is all you need to defend a police officer putting their hands on a child.

She obviously felt they were in the wrong. How do you know they didn't "break some rule"?
 

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How do you know this?

Because the teacher said so?
The teacher says she broke some classroom rule ENOUGH to the point that he asked her to leave.

She didn't comply

An administrator was called.

She didn't comply

A cop was called

She didn't comply

UNTIL THE COP TOUCHED HER, she was in the wrong and should have complied.

It doesn't matter what the actual offense was at that point.
 

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With this you give the administration all the benefit of the doubt and the child none.

You blindly follow what they say without asking why she needed to be removed in the first place.


"She broke some rule" is all you need to defend a police officer putting their hands on a child.

She obviously felt they were in the wrong. How do you know they didn't "break some rule"?
Do you know any teachers?

I mean come on.

Kids are little a$$holes who don't show respect sometimes..

I don't think the cop should have done what he did, but I don't disagree with calling the cop to remove the student.

She failed to comply with two levels of administration. She was met with the third.
 

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The teacher says she broke some classroom rule ENOUGH to the point that he asked her to leave.
And she felt it was an unreasonable request.

Why does the teacher get all the benefit of the doubt, but the student none?


It doesn't matter what the actual offense was at that point.
Yes it does matter. That's what matters most.

If she didn't deserve the treatment in the first place, then she was right to protest.
 

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she used her cell phone to talk or do somethign the teacher asked her to put it away and she sid fukk you

she cussed out the teacher - teacher told her to leave - she said no

teacher calls principal - principal tell her to leave she cusses out principal and still refuses

they call the cop and her tries to ask her nice - she still refuses - he grabs her to move her she hits him he tosses her then cuffs her

the teacehr in the room and the principal wrote statements and stated the force used was not excessive

the sheriff in teh press conference said the ONLY thing that was excessive was throwing her - he said picking her up out of the chair was "correct"

when asked how to remove her since she is non compliant with force he wouldnt say -

he said pain complaince -

the cop had no other issues with teh school officially -the students going on the news and saying stuff now never made any kindof report about him officially

the principal and the teaching staff wanted him and he got an award for his role as a school cop - the only past issue he had was as a cop on the street and he got sued but the jury found in his favor and said they didnt believe anything the plaintiff said

those are he facts - there are NOT other substantiated acts in his record - thats from the sheriff at this afternoons press conference

He fukked up throwing her to the ground and draggin her. Completely unnecessary. And he should have been canned and was.

I would've expelled her. These no mannered kids out here got it so fukking easy now. We got fukked up in school back in the day for trying this shyt. These entitled spoiled kids of thots are out of control. I wouldn't have done shyt as a cop if I got called in to that foolishness. Call the parents (ON THEIR JOB - WHICH IS A HUGE fukkUP IF YOU ARE BLACK) and have them come get their kid. Bring back paddlin kids!
 

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Since when is a cop called before a parent?
Ya'll acting real dense right now.

SROs have been in schools for decades.

1. The teacher asked her to leave

2. The school administrator asked her to leave

3. The cop asked her to leave.

So at that point, it really doesn't matter what rule she broke. She doesn't have any rights in that school to consistently ignore orders. Read the law.

Now, should the cop have done what he did, how he did it? No.

But should the cop have used "other means" to remove the student? Yes.
 

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Is having a phone in your hand cause for an act of violence?

Was it a danger to those surrounding her?
The word violence is misleading in this context. The physical force requested by the administration was not intended to hurt, damage, or kill. It was intended to restrain safely. Now whether he did the former rather than the ladder is up to Internal affairs and the FBI to determine, which is what I have been saying from my very first post. Because calculating the proper amount of force for safe restraining is not like measuring something.
 

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Do you know any teachers?

I mean come on.

Kids are little a$$holes who don't show respect sometimes..

I don't think the cop should have done what he did, but I don't disagree with calling the cop to remove the student.

She failed to comply with two levels of administration. She was met with the third.

A child being an a$$hole is not cause for violent outbursts by adults.

I'm not allowed to put my hands on my own child. Why should a teacher or police officer have that right?
 

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And she felt it was an unreasonable request.

Why does the teacher get all the benefit of the doubt, but the student none?


[quite]It doesn't matter what the actual offense was at that point.
Yes it does matter. That's what matters most.

If she didn't deserve the treatment in the first place, then she was right to protest.[/QUOTE]

It doesn't matter.

Read the laws. Students rights don't really "exist" in public schools and teachers can tell you what to do within a specific range of demands and you MUST comply.

But lets leave out your grand conspiracy. She was a disrespectful little girl to all levels of authority. She had it coming.

BUT...the cop should not have handled her like that. He should have removed her through other means, but not like that.
 

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The word violence is misleading in this context. The physical force requested by the administration was not intended to hurt, damage, or kill. It was intended to restrain. Now whether he did the former rather than the ladder is up to Internal affairs and the FBI to determine, which is what I have been saying from my very first post. Because calculating the proper amount of force is not like measuring something.
Using force to move someone is a violent action.

There's nothing misleading about using the word in this situation.
 

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A child being an a$$hole is not cause for violent outbursts by adults.

I'm not allowed to put my hands on my own child. Why should a teacher or police officer have that right?
1. A teacher asked her to leave
2. An administrator asked her to leave
3. A cop asked her to leave.

She resisted demands for her to comply. She's in high school. She knows the rules.

The cop violated, no doubt. But his involvement in the situation was appropriate. His behavior was not appropriate.
 
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