Cops gone wild: Police choke unarmed guy to death for selling cigarettes

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Does policy about wearing cameras count as more government?
Yes, but implemented properly it could be good...:ehh:
I expect some "it will interfere with our ability to fight crime" nonsense to keep it out of the most troublesome areas of law enforcement though.

 

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Yes, but implemented properly it could be good...:ehh:
I expect some "it will interfere with our ability to fight crime" nonsense to keep it out of the most troublesome areas of law enforcement though.

I can't remember where it was... but i read somewhere that there's a town where they put a camera on every single one of their officers and complaints against police dropped by 80% :ehh:

But i don't think that would've helped in this instance.

There need to be stricter checks & balances, harsher punishment and a shorter leash for law enforcement when they screw up or even are accused of screwing up. As well as a complete overhaul of American law enforcement culture which breeds thuggish & violent behavior....but this is really just a pipe dream. As long as nikkas & spix continue to bare the brunt of this shyt, nothing will change. It'll really take A major incident with a cac or a few incidents with cacs that grab national headlines for the public at large to get serious about law enforcement reform. As long as these headlines continue to mostly involve nikkas & spix, it will be given underhanded condonement by the majority voting bloc.

OR...nikkas need to grow a spine and some integrity and become the check & balance to state sanctioned thuggery :violent: :demonic:

You see a brother getting strangled to death for something as trivial as practicing capitalism without a state sanction...

INTERVENE :bustback:
 
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fukk the police, and i truly mean that..

fukk my dad..

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Yes, but implemented properly it could be good...:ehh:
I expect some "it will interfere with our ability to fight crime" nonsense to keep it out of the most troublesome areas of law enforcement though.

Police officers in the small city of Rialto in San Bernardino County have been wearing cameras since 2012. Rialto Police Chief William A. Farrar, working with a Cambridge University researcher, found two big results: Complaints against his officers declined by 88 percent and officer use of force declined by 60 percent.

http://voiceofsandiego.org/2014/03/28/fact-check-do-police-cameras-decrease-police-complaints/

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I can't remember where it was... but i read somewhere that there's a town where they put a camera on every single one of their officers and complaints against police dropped by 80% :ehh:

But i don't think that would've helped in this instance.

There need to be stricter checks & balances, harsher punishment and a shorter leash for law enforcement when they screw up or even are accused of screwing up. As well as a complete overhaul of American law enforcement culture which breeds thuggish & violent behavior....but this is really just a pipe dream. As long as nikkas & spix continue to bare the brunt of this shyt, nothing will change. It'll really take A major incident with a cac or a few incidents with cacs that grab national headlines for the public at large to get serious about law enforcement reform. As long as these headlines continue to mostly involve nikkas & spix, it will be given underhanded condonement by the majority voting bloc.

OR...nikkas need to grow a spine and some integrity and become the check & balance to state sanctioned thuggery :violent: :demonic:

You see a brother getting strangled to death for something as trivial as practicing capitalism without a state sanction...

INTERVENE :bustback:
http://www.myfoxla.com/story/22060044/city-of-rialto-giving-cops-wearable-cameras
 

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:mindblown: how does this shyt keep happening? These cops in the vid all deserve a lengthy sentence
Man it really looks like these cops are trying to turn America in a police state, so that they can live out their Call of Duty and prejudice fantasies...

I was watching this documentary last night about Rio and did a complete :dwillhuh: like maybe this where America is heading....

 

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I'm really feeling this idea man. NYPD gets billions from homeland security, so it's not like paying for it is an issue. Also NY already has cameras on buildings, stores and streetlights. No one would have an issue with cops wearing one.



City of Rialto Giving Cops Wearable Cameras
Posted: Apr 23, 2013 11:21 PM EDTUpdated: Apr 24, 2013 2:51 PM EDT
By: Phil Shuman, Reporter / Anchor - bio | email
Posted by: FOX 11 Web Staff - email




(FOX 11) If you haven't noticed, we live in a video age -- from the Boston bombing to the West, Texas explosion to the latest TMZ shot of some pant-less celebrity. If it happens, we have to see it on video and we expect to see it on video -- and fast.

So it makes perfect sense that more and more organizations are saying, 'you know what? I don't want to have to rely on someone else's cell phone or surveillance to get what I need on camera. I'll just do it myself."

That brings me, in a bit of a hop skip and jump, to the Inland Empire, all the way to Rialto where the police chief is running a sort of video experiment. Half of his patrol cops wear miniature collar-mounted video cameras that can capture an entire shift's worth of video and audio, store it on a tiny hard drive, and upload it to a secure cloud for storage and review.

Claim that the cops brutalized you? Let's go the videotape. Cops say you resisted arrest? Let's go to the videotape.

In the first 12 months the Rialto cops have been wearing the little devices. Complaints against officers have plummeted, as have use of force incidents. As Chief Tony Farrar told us, "If you put a camera on people, they tend to behave in a more professional manner ... it's just human nature."

Farrar couldn't be happier with the results of his experiment and predicts more and more departments will go the video route.

Makes sense.

The 20-year veteran I rode around with, Sgt Josh Lindsay, was skeptical at first but he was quickly convinced, thinking the cameras protect him from false accusations and protect the public as well. "Officers are essentially on their best behavior. And if you see the camera pointed at you, chances are the average suspect or even citizen will be too."

It's "the wave of the future," Lindsay added.

Cost is an issue, though. The little units, with battery and the accessories, are about $1,200 dollars each. For a relatively small department like Rialto -- with about 50 of them so far -- it's do-able. Try to outfit the whole Los Angeles Police or the Los Angeles Sheriff's Department and then we're talking about a serious budget item.

But as some have already figured out, that may be a prudent investment when it compares to the cost of investigating, trying, settling, and maybe even losing complaint-related lawsuits.

For example, what if the LAPD cops chasing Rodney King had recorded the entire incident from start to finish? Would that have substantiated their claims that he was out of control and combative, or would it have shown excessive force? It would've certainly been more valuable than George Holliday's grainy shaky partial home video shot from the window of his apartment across the freeway.

What about more recently: the cops that are on trial for killing the killing of the homeless man, Kelly Thomas, in Fullerton. We have audio on that one, matched, sort of to surveillance video. Full coverage, audio and video would again be helpful.

It's happening -- it's called progress.

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Agreed, but there is a real problem in police units across the country. They see themselves as a brotherhood, and although not all commit crimes, a lot of them do keep quiet or defend the ones that do. Just check the police forums around online, they always usually side with the law enforcement officers, sometimes in the face of clear evidence. A lot of the good ones fear losing their job, being blackballed or even threatened if they wish to expose behavior. A lot of them abide by the "no snitch" rule, even if they don't agree with the actions of some of their co-workers.

A law enforcement officer takes an oath to enforce the law, but a lot of them times they forget to enforce it on the people who wear the same work clothes as they do.

Oh theres definitely a problem There is a ton of pressure from peers and the higher ups. Even though they do swear to uphold the law, a lot take that shyt into their own hands, and the IA guys are deemed as rats for doing the right thing.


My problem is, not all cops are like this. You cant make a lazy generalization like that. Just like saying all black folks are lazy, all irish people are drunks etc etc. Thats where I'm going with it. Yes there are absolutely bad apples in every bunch, but to call it across the board is stupid and shortsighted.
 

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Just found out this dude was my mans homegirls pops :wow:

On Thursday we were chillin and she called this dude crying telling him her dad died of cardiac arrest and she don't know what the fukk happened, and he was telling me how he hates when people call him with bad news because he never knows what to say....son JUST called me and told me it was him :wow: small world man. fukk these pigs.
 

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Oh theres definitely a problem There is a ton of pressure from peers and the higher ups. Even though they do swear to uphold the law, a lot take that shyt into their own hands, and the IA guys are deemed as rats for doing the right thing.


My problem is, not all cops are like this. You cant make a lazy generalization like that. Just like saying all black folks are lazy, all irish people are drunks etc etc. Thats where I'm going with it. Yes there are absolutely bad apples in every bunch, but to call it across the board is stupid and shortsighted.

Not all cops are like this, correct. But it's also wrong to say that it's just bad apples in the bunch. It's the overall culture of law enforcement. Here's an example: Otto Zehm. He was a mentally challenged man who was killed over a candy bar by the police.

Otto Zehm (1970–2006) was a mentally disabled man from Spokane, Washington who died on March 20, 2006, two days after being beaten, tasered multiple times, hogtied, gagged and sat upon by seven Spokane Police Officers until he passed out and never regained consciousness.[1] Zehm committed no crime and on May 30, 2006, the Spokane County coroner ruled the death a homicide.[

What happens to the 7 officers who participated in this homicide? One of them got 4 years in a low security prison for lying. One out of 7 and not for murder. One of the ones who escaped later went on to shoot and kill a homeless man. Still a police officer until this day. But here is where the few bad apples shyt becomes nonsense. First, the police unit as a whole lies about what happened until video evidence comes out that it's all lies:

Police alleged that Zehm had "lunged" at the original officer with a plastic soft drink bottle. However, the silent surveillance video of the incident (withheld by the police for three months) contradicted this police claim. Then-acting police chief Jim Nicks subsequently stated that he misspoke in alleging Zehm "lunged" at the officer. The video also did not provide support for the officer's claim that he paused and gave verbal orders to Zehm. Each frame showed the officer advancing at a brisk rate while Zehm, after seeing the officer advancing with his baton raised, only back-pedals slowly away.[7]


Despite this one person being convicted of murder, 50 of his co-workers decided to show up and salute the man in court:

On November 2, 2011, the jury found Thompson guilty on both counts; excessive use of force and lying to investigators about the confrontation.[29] Over 50 police officers were in attendance when the verdict was announced and saluted Thompson in a show of solidarity.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Otto_Zehm


"just a few bad apples" :rudy:
 
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