Coronavirus Thread: Worldwide Pandemic

[nyknick]

But what is more? Is it 2 or 3? And is it even significant?

Vaccination rates are increases and cases and deaths are decreasing. The media needs chill out with the sensationalist news.

At this point get your vaccine and KIM. All this worry of other countries and regions is moot. If US citizens are caccinatwd and protected then that’s what matters for this administration.

It’s in times like this that jugging and finessing starts. When emotions run high, ration goes out the window...

It all depends on how you look at things. You can look at it as positive news or sensationalist news, all depends on your emotions I guess

 

[phcitywarrior]

You obviously didn't read any of this article or the fact that they have been reporting younger people are getting sick more and ending up in the hospital than the elderly.

I mean, this is expected. The elderly were prioritized as first vaccine recipients. Last I checked 60+% of all US adults over 65 have been fully vaccinated. Of course we'd expect less hospitalization rates.

Second only 30.9% has been fully vaccinated in the USA and disparity is worse in Michigan.

But ~45% have received at least 1 dose. Even one dose of Pfizer offers up to 80% protection. Currently, the follow up vaccination rates are very high at about 95%. At that level, we can assume that the 45% getting one dose will pan out to ~43% being fully vaccinated.

There's nothing sensational about the variants or the fact they're already here. The variants come from places like India that when unchecked mutate and don't give a fukk about your vaccine.

Like I said, people should get vaccinated and keep it pushing. If the Indian variants breakthrough the current vaccine then oh well. There's nothing you or I could have realistically done to prevent it.

You can just say you got vaccinated and you don't give fukk about anyone else and KIM. But to waste time with nonsensical posts like this, makes me think of emotions running high and ration going out the window...

See my post below.

It all depends on how you look at things. You can look at it as positive news or sensationalist news, all depends on your emotions I guess

Appreciate you dropping some hard data.

So let's run the numbers using the data nyknick presented concerning Michigan's cases and deaths for young people (I'll define as age group 20-29 and 30-39).

Collective cases in December: 46,907
Collective deaths in December: 25
Fatality rate for 20-39 age group: 0.05%

Collective cases in April: 60,567
Collective deaths in April: 65
Fatality rate for 20-39 age group: 0.11%

Collectively, yes, the fatality rate has increased, but again vaccinations access is increasing. At the end of the day, the numbers show it, for young folks, this virus isn't the death sentence the media is making it out to be. The fatality rate isn't even half a percent for those 20-39 per Michigan's data.

And if Michigan is one of the worst hit states in the US, just based on those numbers, I think people should feel optimistic that we're turning a corner on this virus.

This isn't March 2020. We have information about how to avoid Covid, how it's spread and how to protect our loved ones. Get the vaccine and keep it pushing.

 

[jj23]

Is Cuba closing in on COVID vaccine sovereignty?

 

[bnew]

Appreciate you dropping some hard data.

So let's run the numbers using the data nyknick presented concerning Michigan's cases and deaths for young people (I'll define as age group 20-29 and 30-39).

Collective cases in December: 46,907
Collective deaths in December: 25
Fatality rate for 20-39 age group: 0.05%

Collective cases in April: 60,567
Collective deaths in April: 65
Fatality rate for 20-39 age group: 0.11%

Collectively, yes, the fatality rate has increased, but again vaccinations access is increasing. At the end of the day, the numbers show it, for young folks, this virus isn't the death sentence the media is making it out to be. The fatality rate isn't even half a percent for those 20-39 per Michigan's data.

And if Michigan is one of the worst hit states in the US, just based on those numbers, I think people should feel optimistic that we're turning a corner on this virus.

This isn't March 2020. We have information about how to avoid Covid, how it's spread and how to protect our loved ones. Get the vaccine and keep it pushing.

fatalities aren't the only concern, people becoming covid long-haulers is worrisome too.

COVID 'long-hauler' symptoms affecting 10-30% get official name



Long haulers: Why some people experience long-term coronavirus symptoms




https://www.woodtv.com/health/coronavirus/study-1-in-4-covid-19-patients-considered-long-haulers/

snippet:

GRAND RAPIDS, Mich. (WOOD) — A new study led by the University of Michigan and the Michigan Department of Health and Human Services found more than 25% of Michiganders diagnosed with COVID-19 are considered “long haulers,” meaning they are still dealing with health effects from the virus.

For the study, researchers surveyed 638 Michiganders who were diagnosed with COVID-19 before April 15. Everyone was contacted at least 10 weeks after their diagnosis for follow-up questions. Of the 638, 26.2% say they are still dealing with virus symptoms and don’t consider themselves fully recovered.

“A lot of what’s been circulating in the media about COVID is that it affects a small group of people very severely, but the majority of people recover,” said Jana Hirschtick, one of two lead researchers on the project from the University of Michigan. “And I think two key things that we are learning from our study is that among people who have been diagnosed, actually, the majority of them are reporting severe or very severe symptoms and that a lot of people aren’t recovering even months later, so prevention is really key.”

Of the 638 patients surveyed, 25.8% of them say they suffered “very severe” symptoms at the height of their illness, while 39% only called them severe. A combined 35.2% said their symptoms were either moderate or mild.

Still, the survey shows the virus isn’t only a long-term problem for long haulers. Of the 420 respondents who do consider themselves recovered, 16.9% of them say it took at least seven weeks or longer for them to beat the virus entirely. Approximately two out of five recovered respondents felt better after two weeks of their diagnosis, and about three out of five felt fully recovered within three weeks.

the cited study
Michigan COVID-19 Recovery Surveillance Study (MI CReSS) | University of Michigan School of Public Health

COVID-19 (coronavirus): Long-term effects

These symptoms and risk factors may predict whether you could become a 'COVID-19 long hauler,' study suggests

Sequelae in Adults at 6 Months After COVID-19 Infection

 

[choc_cardigan]

fatalities aren't the only concern, people becoming covid long-haulers is worrisome too.

COVID 'long-hauler' symptoms affecting 10-30% get official name



Long haulers: Why some people experience long-term coronavirus symptoms




https://www.woodtv.com/health/coronavirus/study-1-in-4-covid-19-patients-considered-long-haulers/

snippet:


the cited study
Michigan COVID-19 Recovery Surveillance Study (MI CReSS) | University of Michigan School of Public Health

COVID-19 (coronavirus): Long-term effects

These symptoms and risk factors may predict whether you could become a 'COVID-19 long hauler,' study suggests

Sequelae in Adults at 6 Months After COVID-19 Infection

Yes to co sign me and a friend know a girl who is currently rehabbing her right arm because it can't bend straight. She was perfectly 100% healthy young person before catching covid 19. Now the doctors say she has long covid.

 

[mr. smoke weed]

South Dakota has almost 40% of their population full vaccinated. Thinj about that.

They never had mask or social distancing rules.

 

[bnew]

South Dakota has almost 40% of their population full vaccinated. Thinj about that.

They never had mask or social distancing rules.

the entire state has less than 900,000 people living in it. It's a flyover state and It's largest city has 184,000 people.

Even with a low population and being a largely rural state they managed to be in the top ten of covid death rate by state per 100,000 people.

U.S. COVID-19 death rate by state | Statista

 

[BeachBum Unreal]

 

[bnew]

Is Cuba closing in on COVID vaccine sovereignty?

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Dr Gerardo Guillen, Director of Biomedical Research at the Center for Genetic Engineering and Biotechnology, told Al Jazeera that there were high levels of trust among the public in the candidate vaccines.

“Since health is universal and free and the centres do not profit from access to these vaccines, these conditions remove many ethical barriers and create a lot of trust in the centres for research and vaccine production,” he said.

thats a inspirational model

 

[ADevilYouKhow]

How a Miami School Became a Beacon for Anti-Vaxxers

Outrageous

 

[FAH1223]

 

[greenvale]

definitely in our self interests. we depend on outsourced work in a few industries.

 

[MushroomX]

Canadians want to yee-haw.

 

[88m3]

Canadians want to yee-haw.

had to cancel the curling championship



Canadians have the same ignorant settler mindset that Americans have. Don't let them ever tell you otherwise. Trash.

 

[Pressure]

Also regarding Gates and his current stance, it is also tied to how he views patents.

Microsoft owns like tens of thousands of patents and this is one of the reasons for his fortune. From his point of view, he cant logically agree with making those vaccines "open source" because this would go against the very paradigm he's had until now.

A failed opportunity to do good by him but it makes sense if we look at how he got where he is now.

I think this is a baseline. But we're often talking about countries that propel themselves, their leadership, and style of government as better and then look for benevolence when they fail.

Most of these arguments surrounding vaccines are dishonest.