could Germany of had won the war

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it's not that easy a question but it would've been a different world if the germans pushed right on through to the UK after steamrolling France (they basically let thousands of soldiers escape when they had them on the run), the italians kept their shyt together (the Germans were forced to do damage control because the italians kept messing their battles up:pachaha:) and then they probably still had to honor their alliance with Russia or alternatively the Japanese could've done some shyt that did not give the US an excuse (well, they practically forced it) to join in on the war. You never know how it would've gone in the long run, but these are the biggest tactical mistakes I know from the top of my head:yeshrug:
 

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had he not invaded russia, developed the bomb and used it on america, he'd have controlled every cac country except russia, which was ultimately his goal.

he felt russia was a must because of its abundant resources.
 

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Germany would have come much closer to taking the Soviet Union had it not been for the lend-lease act. This is according to Stalin himself. Hitler knew that the Soviet Union would get into the war eventually, so they decided to get the jump start, and they made huge gains. The Soviets were in dire need of supplies and vehicles.

Ultimately Hitler's biggest mistake was giving a shyt about North Africa. Sent his best field marshall there. I also don't think they suspected the US to split forces among the Pacific and Europe. The American Generals were god damn brilliant. We may never see generals of that caliber again.
 
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Ultimately Hitler's biggest mistake was giving a shyt about North Africa. Sent his best field marshall there. I also don't think they suspected the US to split forces among the Pacific and Europe. The American Generals were god damn brilliant. We may never see generals of that caliber again.
:usure:none of the top 5 world War 2 generals were American breh.
 

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I was thinking the other day, would Germany have won WW2,if it wasn't for their racial ideology?. Due to this, germany was not only having to face enemy from the east and west, but also must have expended a huge amount of men,material and natural resources to run their network of concentration and extermination camps. But it was more than that it even interferred in my view directly with them defeating Stalin.

Early on in operation barbarossa, when the forward units of the wermacht and Waffen SS, rolled into Russia, the russians by and large greeted the german troops as their liberators. I mean Stalin was on par With Hitler with being a brutal murdering psychopath,he was probably even worse to be honest.You can find pictures of russian girls hugging waffen SS troops and giving them flowers. It was when the rear units arrived, the police SS units, to offically deal with partisans, but unoffically they were there, to kill, and enslave the russians, as Hitler saw slavic people, as little better than jews,that relations soured.

Can you imagine if, the Germans had instead, treated the russians they encountered well? They would have had less trouble in their rear areas, and would have had huge numbers of Russian men wanting to join them in defeating Stalin.

When you think about Iam surprised Nazi Germany lasted as long as it did. I mean if Hitler himself had just corrected the injustices of the treaty of versaille, there wouldn't have been a WW2, But he underestimated the British and French's, pacisfism, after the meatgrinder that wasWW1. and got greedy. Then after the war started, he never should have taken on the Soviet Union until he had either been able to military occupy the UK (which was almost impossible due to the english channel as germany didn't have hardly any amphibious capbility, and relied on flimsy barges, many of which would haev sunk without even the help of the Royal Navy) or had forced the Uk to sue for peace,by starving them out using uboats ,.Because once Churchill persuaded the US to join the war, the UK became a giant unsinkable aircraft carrier for huge heavy bomber fleets.

Hitler also took the bait when the RAF launched a token raid on Berlin , and started the blitz, which was all the excuse churchill needed to allow 'dehousing' offical name for the mass killing of German civilians in huge firebombing raids and also meant the luftwaffe, stopped concentrating so much on the Royal Airforce, which mean the Germans lost the Battle of Britain.

There are many other mistakes he made.
 

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Depends what we mean by "winning the war". Attacking Russia is what did them in, they should've managed Western Europe without trying to expand too much. Remember there were still colonies at the time so exploiting them to their benefit instead of France's or Belgium's for example would've been easy as hell, and suddenly you have access to all the ressources of the Congo and half of Africa. Middle-East was still very much up for grabs and Nazis could've played their cards there (I think there were already contacts between them and some Arab countries). Big thing though is that Nazis (and Germans in general) never really had an important expansionist policy outside of Europe.

At some point if you control all of Western Europe and have Mussolini in Italy and Franco in Spain, you can now play that position to your advantage imo with the USSR, the UK and the US. Strike a deal like Nazis get Western Europe and parts of Africa, Soviets get Eastern Europe, US gets Latin America. Basically, another Yalta. Now instead of a two-way Cold War, it's three-way. Of course at some point someone would fall, but nothing says that for example the US wouldn't have teamed up with the Nazis to put pressure on the Soviets.
This sounds like George Orwell's 1984 with the Three world powers.
 

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There's like a half dozen German generals alone. Be objective

I'm being very objective. The American generals were thought of very highly, not only by their counterparts but by their opposition. Eisenhower, Patton, Bradley. Not to mention MacArthur. Then you have maybe the most underrated leader in the entire war Admiral Nimitz (not a general I know, but essentially was).
 
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I'm being very objective. The American generals were thought of very highly, not only by their counterparts but by their opposition. Eisenhower, Patton, Bradley. Not to mention MacArthur. Then you have maybe the most underrated leader in the entire war Admiral Nimitz (not a general I know, but essentially was).
Being thought of highly and being the best of the best are two different things.
 
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Germany would have come much closer to taking the Soviet Union had it not been for the lend-lease act. This is according to Stalin himself. Hitler knew that the Soviet Union would get into the war eventually, so they decided to get the jump start, and they made huge gains. The Soviets were in dire need of supplies and vehicles.

Ultimately Hitler's biggest mistake was giving a shyt about North Africa. Sent his best field marshall there. I also don't think they suspected the US to split forces among the Pacific and Europe. The American Generals were god damn brilliant. We may never see generals of that caliber again.

Von Manstein > Guderian >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rommel
 
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