you idiots believe anything the media tells you.2008 Celtics destroy them. 2001 Lakers destroy them. 1996 Bulls obviously annihilate them.
Those are the 3 best teams of the last 25 years.
Could the 09 Lakers beat the Warriors?
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you idiots believe anything the media tells you.2008 Celtics destroy them. 2001 Lakers destroy them. 1996 Bulls obviously annihilate them.
Those are the 3 best teams of the last 25 years.
We got a smart man here.
2009 Lakers are actually perfectly built to beat the Warriors. And Lamar Odom is the key. He's the Warriors worst nightmare. A stretch 4 with the athleticism to guard the perimeter when they go super small as well as being good enough with his back to the basket to play in the post. Warriors secret weapon is going small with Draymond at the 5 and KD at the 4. Lamar would be able to guard KD on defense and then take him into the post on offense. Literally no other 4 in the NBA right now can do that.
Lamar Odom and Pau Gasol would tilt the series for the Lakers. And then there is Kobe in the 4th quarter who is still the best player in the world.
Lakers would win in 6.
2006 Lakers had a starting lineup of Smush Parker, Kobe Bryant, Luke Walton, Lamar Odom, and Kwame Brown. And yet they had the Phoenix Suns (which were essentially a poor man's version of this year's Warriors) down 3-1 before losing in 7.
2009 Lakers are more talented than the 2006 Lakers as are the 2017 Warriors more talented than the 2006 Suns but the logic of both series holds the same. The 2006 Lakers were able to hang with the more talented Suns by slowing the pace down and pounding it inside with Odom and Kwame. Kobe would then finish it off in the 4th quarter.
2009 Lakers might not have as much talent as the 2017 Warriors but they match up well with them. They have 3 bigs who can play with their backs to the basket in Gasol, Bynum, and Odom. They have 2 pretty defenders on the wing in Kobe and Ariza. They also have a physical PG like Fisher that can rough up Steph Curry like Dellavadova did 2 years ago.
Honestly Lamar Odom might be the best possible matchup you can find for Kevin Durant. He's as tall and mobile as KD. He could guard KD on one end of the court and then take him into the post on the other because of his advantage in strength. Kobe would dominate Klay. Hell old Kobe used to light Klay up. Late prime Kobe would do the same. Gasol would be too big for Draymond and too skilled for Zaza. And we all know Steph doesn't like physical play like he would get from D-Fish.
2009 Lakers are actually the Warriors worst nightmare. A team with versatile talented bigs that can play with their backs to the basket but are also versatile enough to guard them on the other hand. And this team has Kobe.
Lakers would win in 6.
Old Kobe lit up Klay. I'm pretty sure Prime Kobe woulda done the same.
Prime Kobe lit up Iggy.
Prime Kobe rarely was guarded by Durant but when he did, Kobe embarrassed him. Prime Kobe is just too quick for him. Kobe would blow by him every play.
They went 6 with the Nuggets, and 7 with the Rockets. Playing against the Nuggets at a 92 pace they were giving up 102ppg, if the Nuggets could score like that the Warriors would murder them.
Unless you're going to try and tell me Billups, Melo and JR Smith are a better 3 man unit than Curry, KD and Klay
You're hatred of Kobe is so hilarious. You intentionally try to hide facts all the time when it comes to these arguments.
How come you didn't mention the bigs on that Nuggets team? This is a team that had: Nene Hilario, Kenyon Martin, and Chris Anderson. All were extremely versatile defenders that could guard Gasol, Bynum, and Odom. They were able to neutralize the Lakers bigs. They actually matched up better with the 2009 Lakers than the 2017 Warriors do with the Lakers. And that was a major reason they went 6 with the Lakers. And it took Kobe averaging 34/6/6 that series for the Lakers to win. The Nuggets took the Lakers bigs out.
2017 Warriors won't be able to do what the Nuggets did. Lakers bigs would go crazy. Kobe wouldn't need to average 34ppg. Lakers would slow the pass down and pound them down low with Bynum, Gasol, and Odom. Lamar Odom would be the key because he could play against the Warriors small ball lineup. He would match up with KD at the 4 on both sides of the floor. That is what would win the Lakers the series.
Not really. Kobe's had off games. And he's also let himself get caught up into trying to win a matchup by trying to score over double and triple teams and failing like in 2004 against the Pistons.
But there has never been a single defender that has EVER shut down Kobe. Kobe would give any of those guys on the Warriors the work. And if they tried to go all out double and tripling Kobe every possession like the 2004 Pistons, he would pass it up and trust his teammates rather than sabotage their chances.
If you're trying to imply KD might be better than Kobe. I'll just let KD educate you.
Kevin Durant: Kobe Bryant is 'the greatest of all time,' Kobe and Michael Jordan '1 and 1A'
That's 7 games out of 22, why didn't you post the -
20pt game on 6-15?
17pt game on 7-27?
19pt game on 6-20?
9pt game on 3-11?
14pt game on 5-15?
The 28pt game.....on 10-26?
He had just as many hot trash games against Iggy as he did the games you're bragging about, and in that 40pt game he was 15-34 AND they lostHe damn sure wasn't going to put 30-40 on Iguodala easily, especially when Klay held him to 41% shooting in their games.
Dude I religiously watched every minute of Kobe Bryant's career since 2005 and Andre Igoudala wouldn't even make my top 5 of best defenders against Kobe. I never watched Kobe go up against Igoudala and thought that was a dude to be concerned about.
Tony Allen was the best Kobe defender ever. Followed by Vince Carter (surprisingly) and Paul Pierce (another surprise). For some reason Kobe always struggled against those guys.
Iggy was light work for Kobe unless he had off game with his shot (which happened from time to time especially as he got older). And Klay was another guy who was absolutely no challenge.
The best defenders against Kobe are guys with the physical strength to keep his from getting good position in the post. Kobe got good post position rather easily on Iggy and Klay. And once Kobe gets good post position it becomes easy work for him.
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Fisher's defense is what I would be worried about, but Lakers played down to their comp. And that Nuggets team would have beaten Orlando in 5 or 6 games in the finals.
Draymond would be ineffective this whole series
Once again you can't use the whole because team A struggled in round 1 against this team, then they can't possibly beat that team. This logic doesn't work in sports.
Basketball is a game of MATCHUPS. The 2009 Lakers match up well with this Warriors team because they have a front line that can exploit the Warriors only real weakness.
How about you just trust the word of actual NBA players? Kevin Durant: Kobe Bryant is 'the greatest of all time,' Kobe and Michael Jordan '1 and 1A'
But you never say anything about this. You avoid any thread about the effusive praise NBA players past and present have for Kobe like the plague because you can't say anything about it.
Just admit you don't like Kobe and try to find things to support your argument while ignoring things that contradict you. Your agenda is clear and everyone can see it. Yet you try to hide behind this false veil of objectivity.
There has literally never been a positive post you've made about Kobe. I've been 10x more complimentary of LeBron than you have of Kobe. And I've admitted I don't like LeBron's game and will intentionally use anything negative I can find to poke holes at him.
09 lakers one of the goat teams
Kobe Bryant disrespect in here
Actually I'm the biggest Kobe fan there is but they are not a GOAT team. They just match up really well with this Warriors team and would beat them.
2008 Celtics are actually the best team of the last 10 years. And the 2001 Lakers are the best team since the 1996 Bulls.
You are literally one of the stupidest basketball minds on here if you believe this bullshyt media propaganda.
Prime Duncan's Spurs teams would feast on these dudes. Honestly the Warriors are no different than the Phoenix Suns. They just have slightly better players. But ultimately the same weaknesses. Any team with talented bigs that can slow the pace down and bang them down low can beat them.
The Warriors are currently benefiting from a lack of talent around the league. We are at a talent deficit right now in the NBA. And this lack of overall talent in the league is making this team look artificially good. There is a reason all the legends diss this team any chance they get. They know the deal. These dudes would get worked by most of the great teams in the past that had dominant back to the basket bigs. Now with the game no longer having traditional bigs, this gimmick team has artificially risen.
Stop disrespecting ya man Tim Duncan. He woulda beaten these dudes.
Comparing a team that hasn't even won a ring yet to a team that won 2 straight, lol the coli