Could the Miami Heat beat the Warriors?

[camer999]

The only chance the heat have is if you could put 2011 Wade (his last prime year) with the synergy of the 2012 roster..

 

[Dr. Narcisse]

his jumper broke now

He shot 18% from 3 against the Thunder.
He shot 39% from 3 against a better Warriors team now.

 

[MicIsGod]

You would need the elite wade and from what I remember he was only elite that first year. And Lebron was p*ssy that year. Idk..

 

[FaTaL]

Only issue with 2012 is that LeBron's jumper was broke in the finals.

Brons shooting has greatly improved since then

 

[Primetime21]

He shot 18% from 3 against the Thunder.
He shot 39% from 3 against a better Warriors team now.

Jumpers aren't exclusively 3 pointers.

 

[BigMoneyGrip]

The Heat with Mike Miller or Ray Allen?

 

[Shadow King]

The Heat would win 2 games off the strength of a 28 year-old LeBron being able to play every single minute but they would lose in 6 or 7. They wouldn't be able to make up the difference in 3 pointers vs 2 pointers. Also that team wasn't that young either I could see a lot of them being gassed constantly chasing the Warriors shooters.

Edit: Heat would get killed on the boards also

 

[ghostwriterx]

That Okc team would be how GS is except for the pinpoint accuracy from 3 if the front office did their job right. Durant, Westbrook, Harden, Ibaka=/= Durant, Curry, Klay. Green.

KD is much better now
Steph is much better than Westbrook then
Klay is much better than Harden then
Draymond is much better than Ibaka
Iggy better than anybody on that bench
Much better coach

 

[Rigby.]

two teams that would have crushed those Heat teams on the glass

I don't have any problem with the rest of ur posts but I can't definitively say Cleveland would crush Miami on the glass. Tristan can be schemed out evidently, Love is an issue somewhat though. LeBron just got a shyt ton of uncontested boards. If they get Tristan on the bench, and have Bosh at least 50% of the time get Love out of position, Bron was far superior at getting down low for boards back then (partially because he played down low more often then, partially because he was in his athletic prime).

 

[Rigby.]

KD is much better now
Steph is much better than Westbrook then
Klay is much better than Harden then
Draymond is much better than Ibaka
Iggy better than anybody on that bench
Much better coach

I think he means if OKC was allowed to develop, which is I assume why he mentioned the front office doing their job. And if they did, he would be right. Or at least their big 3 would be superior to Klay, Curry, and KD. Ibaka would've had to maintain his defensive presence to be better than Draymond, which he didn't in actuality. Don't know if they would've still got Reggie or Steven or Penes, but any of those 3 would be a better bench player for that team based on their eventual production for the squad than Iggy.

 

[ghostwriterx]

I think he means if OKC was allowed to develop, which is I assume why he mentioned the front office doing their job. And if they did, he would be right. Or at least their big 3 would be superior to Klay, Curry, and KD. Ibaka would've had to maintain his defensive presence to be better than Draymond, which he didn't in actuality. Don't know if they would've still got Reggie or Steven or Penes, but any of those 3 would be a better bench player for that team based on their eventual production for the squad than Iggy.

I agree the front office f*cked up, but no way that team would've been as good defensively. Would've been interesting to see if Harden could've developed in a way to offset what they would lack on that end of the floor.

 

[ndthentherewasx]

At this rate I expect the 91 UNLV team to call ESPN any day now and say they'd beat this Warriors team.

How many debates on hypothetical matchups is the coli gonna do?

When the savants here stop with that bs GOAT team narrative

They're the best now, but all time? No.

 

[Rigby.]

I agree the front office f*cked up, but no way that team would've been as good defensively. Would've been interesting to see if Harden could've developed in a way to offset what they would lack on that end of the floor.

That's reasonable, but GSW didn't become as good as GSW did defensively without Mark Jackson saying down the foundation then Kerr laid the system. They already had a system that works, they could've just flipped the cycle and added defense as needed. The level of talent on that team though, they wouldn't have needed defense for a long while. Their coming of age would've came to a head some time around 2013/2014, I.E the decline of the Heat roster and the last year of the Spurs (who wasn't and isn't a real issue in this hypothetical). GSW defensively before Kevin wasn't good enough to stop this OKC team, even if Reggie still leaves and they only get Adams or Kanter. It would be a very interesting rivalry but OKC w Harden would just be too much for GSW. That squad also does Cleveland about as bad as this GSW one does as well.

Basically what I'm saying is they would've been better offensively because Harden would've only continued developing his facilitating that he brought in spurts and would've increased his outputs of explosion scoring bursts, Westbrook would've had less massive turnover sessions without having to worry about being the floor general, and I'd like to think KD would've at some point stepped up as the alpha. Ibaka would at his worst be above Draymond level offensively, and OKC's FO always got good pieces, at least earlier this decade. It's hard saying something like they'd have a better offense than this year's Dubs, but they'd have more talent to work with certainly.

 

[ghostwriterx]

That's reasonable, but GSW didn't become as good as GSW did defensively without Mark Jackson saying down the foundation then Kerr laid the system. They already had a system that works, they could've just flipped the cycle and added defense as needed. The level of talent on that team though, they wouldn't have needed defense for a long while. Their coming of age would've came to a head some time around 2013/2014, I.E the decline of the Heat roster and the last year of the Spurs (who wasn't and isn't a real issue in this hypothetical). GSW defensively before Kevin wasn't good enough to stop this OKC team, even if Reggie still leaves and they only get Adams or Kanter. It would be a very interesting rivalry but OKC w Harden would just be too much for GSW. That squad also does Cleveland about as bad as this GSW one does as well.

Basically what I'm saying is they would've been better offensively because Harden would've only continued developing his facilitating that he brought in spurts and would've increased his outputs of explosion scoring bursts, Westbrook would've had less massive turnover sessions without having to worry about being the floor general, and I'd like to think KD would've at some point stepped up as the alpha. Ibaka would at his worst be above Draymond level offensively, and OKC's FO always got good pieces, at least earlier this decade. It's hard saying something like they'd have a better offense than this year's Dubs, but they'd have more talent to work with certainly.

Oh yeah I'm not saying GSW w/o Durant would beat them, just saying this version of GSW has a higher defensive ceiling than that OKC team if they stayed together. Their offense would've been arguably better, find a couple of shooters to go along with 3 great iso players and they'd be a handful.

 

[Deathstroke]

With how we couldn't defend 3pts to save our lives, I don't think so.