Could you survive in prison?

[NZA]

most people do

 

[pawdalaw]

Minding my business means keeping the store pumping and getting my cut of all the gambling that takes place. Them phone calls ain't free either family. You want a clean crisp uniform that ain't faded? Come see me! Yeah that's your tray, but the fruit cocktail is mines. My guy will be making rounds to collect that. Just put it in a bag. If you want to buy a shot of wine, I got that! We fukking up anybody that throw away shampoo bottles. I need those too. You want to keep them young boys off yo ass, that will cost you a tray every day. Flavor packs from the noodles will have you in my good Grace's. Dont disrespect any of my police and we Gucci.

 

[MischievousMonkey]

i wasn't in prison, it was jail.
i was given 60 days or $600 bond.
a friend of the dude i was arrested with bailed us out on day 6, so it wasn't
like i was gonna be there long enough to be exploited for anything. the block
i was in was for people that were already convicted and waiting to go to real prison.
i was only in that block because i was waiting for a psyche evaluation. once i got that
they put me in another block that you go to before genpop. some other dudes brought
me snacks and magazines. one dude gave me a book.

there was a real old cac who was there for shooting his wife while "cleaning"
his shotgun. there was a young breh in a wheelchair who was there for murder as well.
he brought me snacks too.

Oh ok got you

So you can accept snacks and gifts in jail if you're not there for too long noted

 

[Thegospel]

Yes. Millions of people do. Just mind your business and don’t ruffle feathers

Lmao. You dudes on here boy I tell ya

 

[Alvin]

I've only had to share cells in some county bids. Hated it, I need my own toilet, space, etc. At a max, you're in general pop it's just most have single cells, I much preferred that over shared cells or dorms...

The set up of maxes is designed to be easier to control the inmate population and I'm theory it is, lower level yards are designed so that the lower level prisomers and guys who earn their way to them have the trust to not take advantage of the freedom...

I did my bid between two prisons and both were maxes, but from what I've heard, while shyt goes on at any prison, guys at these mediums or lows are less apt to endanger their points or fukk up and get sent back to max...

I've been there and seen dudes who fukked up and get sent from a low or medium to max, most don't like it. I've seen dudes grade up from a max to a medium or low and that's the goal most prisoners have, just more freedom and less violence...

do prisons take any steps to reduce recidivism rates? Can violent prisoners be rehabilitated?

 

[xXOGLEGENDXx]

Nah. I'd crumble and probably off myself tbh depending on the sentence

And I find it weird that people who have never been, claim that they can like a badge of honor.

 

[Alvin]

Walking down my cell fro nappy like Don King

I was just listening to this album classic. Wonder what if it would sound like with K-Rock still apart of the KKK

 

[Money Be Green]

I was just listening to this album classic. Wonder what if it would sound like with K-Rock still apart of the KKK

Breh that shyt would have been crazy

 

[murksiderock]

do prisons take any steps to reduce recidivism rates? Can violent prisoners be rehabilitated?

These are tricky questions to answer, so I'll do my best to answer with the understanding these are my opinions, not necessarily facts. But they are opinions built from lived experience, not opinions I'm pulling outta thin air or opinions based on something someone else told me...

But they are OPINIONS, still, just opinions I feel strongly on...

I only went to prison once, and finished my bid September 28, 2009. So a number of protocols could have changed in the last dozen years. But I went to prison in North Carolina and at the time, I was on a block called the STGMU and everyone on that block was coming up for release within 24 months or less...

When you got within 90 days of your release, they had a class we were automatically enrolled in, but had the option of declining, that basically was about re-entering society. It had one lady teaching the class and in the session I was in, there was only 12 or 13 of us. They talked about recidivism rates and I guess one of the goals of the class was to educate us on lowering recidivism...

I cany actually remember how long the shyt was but it was Summer '09 I was in it, and the lasting impression I've had from that class, the instructor once told us to raise our hands if we were ever coming back to prison, and I was the only one who raised my hand. Then she said whatever the state recidivism rate was at the time, like 72% or something, she was like in this entire group, only three or four of you guys will never come back, the rest of yall will be back, but our goal is to help you prevent a return...

I've been vocal on here before that at the time of my release I was certain I'd come back to prison for life within a year, make a bunch of babies, be dead within two years, or all the above. And at the time I was at peace with it, it wasn't something that bothered me and it's one of many aspects of my younger self that I can retrospectively look upon and simultaneously feel sadness for that Rodney, as well as extreme gratefulness that I grew from those frames of mind...

So other than those classes they ran in your last 90 days, which I'm not certain they ran at every pen, nah I don't think prisons care enough about reducing recidivism. It benefits the entire prison industry to have as many repeat offenders as possible. I think that program may have been some civic civilian shyt from outside trying to help, rather than an actual NC DOC program but I really don't know...

Violent people can only be rehabilitated once violence becomes wrong to them. I feel very strongly on this. First of all a max prison isn't the place that's gonna reform your violent nature unless you want it to, the environment and culture applauds all acts of violence so to buck against that you have to be in a different frame of mind...

Those dudes exist, many of whom are older and/or formerly violent individuals but it ain't the prison that rehabilitates them, it's the person...

I'm a formerly violent person. Not the most violent individual I ever knew by any stretch, between bidding and company I kept at different times outside, I've known some really violent dudes, but I was violent myself and was regarded as such. I was a teenager when I went up, prison made me a more violent version of myself. I didn't change my view on myself or my actions until I started having more life experience, and ultimately led me to the road I met a couple years ago where I hate violent interactions and stay away from people who incite and invite violence...

But a man has to reach that conclusion himself. Prison isn't gonna do that for you unless you're strong enough to buck the system....

 

[Alvin]

These are tricky questions to answer, so I'll do my best to answer with the understanding these are my opinions, not necessarily facts. But they are opinions built from lived experience, not opinions I'm pulling outta thin air or opinions based on something someone else told me...

But they are OPINIONS, still, just opinions I feel strongly on...

I only went to prison once, and finished my bid September 28, 2009. So a number of protocols could have changed in the last dozen years. But I went to prison in North Carolina and at the time, I was on a block called the STGMU and everyone on that block was coming up for release within 24 months or less...

When you got within 90 days of your release, they had a class we were automatically enrolled in, but had the option of declining, that basically was about re-entering society. It had one lady teaching the class and in the session I was in, there was only 12 or 13 of us. They talked about recidivism rates and I guess one of the goals of the class was to educate us on lowering recidivism...

I cany actually remember how long the shyt was but it was Summer '09 I was in it, and the lasting impression I've had from that class, the instructor once told us to raise our hands if we were ever coming back to prison, and I was the only one who raised my hand. Then she said whatever the state recidivism rate was at the time, like 72% or something, she was like in this entire group, only three or four of you guys will never come back, the rest of yall will be back, but our goal is to help you prevent a return...

I've been vocal on here before that at the time of my release I was certain I'd come back to prison for life within a year, make a bunch of babies, be dead within two years, or all the above. And at the time I was at peace with it, it wasn't something that bothered me and it's one of many aspects of my younger self that I can retrospectively look upon and simultaneously feel sadness for that Rodney, as well as extreme gratefulness that I grew from those frames of mind...

So other than those classes they ran in your last 90 days, which I'm not certain they ran at every pen, nah I don't think prisons care enough about reducing recidivism. It benefits the entire prison industry to have as many repeat offenders as possible. I think that program may have been some civic civilian shyt from outside trying to help, rather than an actual NC DOC program but I really don't know...

Violent people can only be rehabilitated once violence becomes wrong to them. I feel very strongly on this. First of all a max prison isn't the place that's gonna reform your violent nature unless you want it to, the environment and culture applauds all acts of violence so to buck against that you have to be in a different frame of mind...

Those dudes exist, many of whom are older and/or formerly violent individuals but it ain't the prison that rehabilitates them, it's the person...

I'm a formerly violent person. Not the most violent individual I ever knew by any stretch, between bidding and company I kept at different times outside, I've known some really violent dudes, but I was violent myself and was regarded as such. I was a teenager when I went up, prison made me a more violent version of myself. I didn't change my view on myself or my actions until I started having more life experience, and ultimately led me to the road I met a couple years ago where I hate violent interactions and stay away from people who incite and invite violence...

But a man has to reach that conclusion himself. Prison isn't gonna do that for you unless you're strong enough to buck the system....

Damn that’s insightful, the last paragraphs imo is how I feel Big U transformed bc he said HE had to make the difference.

In a perfect world should prisons or some type of institution make sure prisoners hit the street rehabilitated? How many people from that block actually took the class?

 

[Deflatedhoopdreams]

“You nikkas know what the fukk I’m on, playing spades in the county, and nikkas know not to touch my phone”