COVID-19 Pandemic (Coronavirus)

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Very eye opening information. Vaccine effectiveness for people in Israel that got vaccinated in January is down to 16%. This means that booster shots are definitely going to be needed bc robust protection from infection doesn’t even last 7 months. The positive is that protection vs serious illness is 86%.

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1. low prevention of infection - danger variants, asymptomatic damage/long covid in millions of people
2. low prevention of transmission - vaccine induced herd immunity endangered
3. practical limits on 6 monthly booster cycle
4. older population skew means their group is going to be more pronounced on the negative side than the reduced figures shown here.
5. maybe other (non mRNA) vaccines do not attenuate like this and thus become better choices.
6. "protects against serious disease" is almost Orwellian.

@jj23 john talks about the role of memory T-cells in lots of his other videos. IMO this is a short video just to get the numbers out there. i think he is pretty shaken by them as he expected longer term comprehensive protection. with high transmission rates herd immunity without mass infection gets called into question. and even then depending on reinfection after natural infection. western government strategy hinges on the vaccines.

we need to see more data though.
 

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1. low prevention of infection - danger variants, asymptomatic damage/long covid in millions of people
2. low prevention of transmission - vaccine induced herd immunity endangered
3. practical limits on 6 monthly booster cycle
4. older population skew means their group is going to be more pronounced on the negative side than the reduced figures shown here.
5. maybe other (non mRNA) vaccines do not attenuate like this and thus become better choices.
6. "protects against serious disease" is almost Orwellian.

@jj23 john talks about the role of memory T-cells in lots of his other videos. IMO this is a short video just to get the numbers out there. i think he is pretty shaken by them as he expected longer term comprehensive protection. with high transmission rates herd immunity without mass infection gets called into question. and even then depending on reinfection after natural infection. western government strategy hinges on the vaccines.

we need to see more data though.




New video he just released expanding on it
 

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Seems like the British strategy of delaying the time between the first and second doses is more effective
 
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The amount of people without masks and not giving a fukk is too high everywhere for this to go anywhere. There will probably be a variant that will be even more contagious and deadly similar to the last wave of the Spanish flu.




Yep. You see it.

I hate to say it, but the only thing that could possibly prevent that from happening is that all these anti-mask anti-vaxx idiots might need to just die out at this point.

If the virus goes aheads and runs through them quickly, maybe it will be too quick for another potent strain to form. I'm not a scientist though, and maybe it doesn't matter at this point. Maybe it's gonna happen regardless of if they die quickly or not.
 
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Very eye opening information. Vaccine effectiveness for people in Israel that got vaccinated in January is down to 16%. This means that booster shots are definitely going to be needed bc robust protection from infection doesn’t even last 7 months. The positive is that protection vs serious illness is 86%.

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Did Israel get the same vaccines that we got?

Because I know other countries didn't. They got our "refuse".
 

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according to John Hopkins University, just over 10% of the U.S. has reported infection.
i'm gonna bump that number up to 20% because not everyone who had it was tested.
half the country is fully vaccinated. that's still a good chunk of the population for the virus
eat through. i'm sure that many people who had it never got vaxed and will get it again
even worse.

this is a complete shyt show.

i used to kinda have a life, but now i feel like i'm frozen in amber.
fukk covid and fukk the people who are perpetuating it through
actions and words alike.

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bro, you’re vaccinated. Live your life

there is no scientific or real world data that shows a vaccinated person should avoid moving freely
 

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CORONAVIRUS


"What hasn't changed is that the vaccine is preventing severe disease and death," a Tufts Medical Center epidemiologist said

By Diane Cho and Kaitlin McKinley Becker •Published July 21, 2021 • Updated on July 21, 2021 at 12:12 pm

More than 5,100 Massachusetts residents have tested positive for COVID-19, despite being fully vaccinated against the virus, and at least 80 of them have died, state health officials said Tuesday night.

The latest update from the state Department of Public Health comes as coronavirus metrics continue to creep up in the Bay State while the more contagious Delta variant keeps spreading in the U.S.



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More Than 5,100 Breakthrough COVID Cases Reported in Mass.; at Least 80 Have Died
 

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A total of 151 people have died and more than 500 have been hospitalized in Illinois due to COVID-19 in "breakthrough" cases after they were fully vaccinated, according to state health officials.

According to data updated Wednesday by the Illinois Department of Public Health, 151 people in Illinois have died due to COVID-19 or complications after being fully vaccinated. That figure equates to 2.2% of COVID-19 deaths in the state since Jan. 1, officials said.

151 Dead, 563 Hospitalized in Illinois Breakthrough COVID Cases


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