COVID-19 Pandemic (Coronavirus)

[OneManGang]

did you read these articles?

Asymptomatic Coronavirus Patients Can Still Develop Lung Damage | Global Biodefense

38% get it to varying degrees as per an imperial college study - from debilitation to life changing organ and lung damage.

‘Long Covid’ Fears Grow in U.K. as Curbs End and Delta Surges

The first article is from 2020 before vaccines and doesn’t tell me anything I didn’t already know. Second article is pay blocked but does it mention vaccination status? Long COVID usually applies to those who were seriously ill and recovered.

 

[Absolut]

The first article is from 2020 before vaccines and doesn’t tell me anything I didn’t already know. Second article is pay blocked but does it mention vaccination status? Long COVID usually applies to those who were seriously ill and recovered.

Quoting the outlier Israel data that wasn’t even an actual study, while ignoring the rest of the actual studies in the Uk, Canada, Italy and posting articles from 2020. Dr Tenet Ding in the house folks

 

[OneManGang]

Quoting the outlier Israel data that wasn’t even an actual study, while ignoring the rest of the actual studies in the Uk, Canada, Italy and posting articles from 2020. Dr Tenet Ding in the house folks

Oh, so basically I need to stop wasting my time. Copy

 

[Absolut]

Oh, so basically I need to stop wasting my time. Copy

He’s a zero covid doom and gloomer like dr ding. Ignore any positive news and dwell on the negative

 

[Malcolmxxx_23]

He’s a zero covid doom and gloomer like dr ding. Ignore any positive news and dwell on the negative

he wont mention that UK cases been failing the last 5 days
COVID-19: UK cases fall for fifth day in a row as country records 29,173 new infections

 

[null]

No variants in iIsrael?

 

[heart]

I've been in ground zero since the pandemic first started. Not from articles, opinions pieces, propaganda, fear mongering, or anything of that nature but from actually treating the patients.

I would say about 65% of new covid patients I am treating or seen data on for the DFW, Texas, and surrounding states are people who are vaccinated. People could see that number and say "see why should I get the vaccine if I can still get covid, I'm NOT taking the shot"

BUT what is NOT being reported is a lot of the fully vaccinated patients also have underlying problems like hypertension, high BP, diabetes, obesity, which can ALL weaken the immune system and make you more susceptible to the virus.

On a positive note, the mortality rate is not high for vaccinated people right now but with the variants its subject to change rapidly. For those who are not vaccinated, but have preexisting conditions then its basically anybody's guess on what the prognosis will be.

I'm in conference calls from other hospital directors all over the country everyday, its not a hidden agenda. Cases are rising rapidly in the US across the board. Its my conjecture that the mask mandate should have never been lifted, rather you're vaccinated or not, it does not matter and I suspect across the board pretty soon it will be implemented again.

I was talking to one of my patients Friday afternoon and he's fully vaccinated but he wants to get a booster shoot soon when there is not one available. And I explained to him, that he is 64 yrs of age, a chain smoker for over two decades, and he drinks about 4-5 energy drinks per day. And I was blunt with him, Sir you're worried about covid calling people who do not get the shot "stupid" but your OWN lifestyle of a piss poor diet is why you're seeing a cardiologist & has you at high risk for a myocardial infarction.

Same can be said for other people too. And its hilarious seeing the hot takes from people on this site. You have ignorant ass posters wishing death on unvaccinated people and they do not even know what the hell they are talking about. Reading a news article does not mean anything when you do not have access to the unbiased data. It is turning into a civil war and that is not what is needed..

 

[null]

Quoting the outlier Israel data that wasn’t even an actual study, while ignoring the rest of the actual studies in the Uk, Canada, Italy and posting articles from 2020. Dr Tenet Ding in the house folks

didn't you get enough L's last year sorry had you on ignore.

while ignoring the rest of the actual studies in the Uk, Canada, Italy

no unlike you I have a firm grasp on all sides of the argument. that's the point. I am science and data driven and you are just slow.

I have been right all along and you ....

i posted this is the other thread.

medcram collected some data - uk, scotland, israel, canada

infection, hospitalisation

1st dose, 2nd dose

Spoiler: video

remember:

Not in the slightest. 13 people in the US, a number of deaths outside China I can count on my fingers, and still videos going around that are irrelevant to the current outbreak and try and sow fear and misinformation spreading? I’m far more likely to die driving to work this morning than getting this virus, and not beating it as a healthy and in shape person in their 30s

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Quoting the outlier Israel data that wasn’t even an actual study, while ignoring the rest of the actual studies in the Uk, Canada, Italy and posting articles from 2020. Dr Tenet Ding in the house folks

He can find every reason in the book to dismiss the best information we have if it goes against his current agenda, then pushes barely supported bullshyt when it confirms whatever he's currently on.

That "16%" number for Israel is almost completely meaningless. There wasn't any reasonable control at all, there wasn't any systematic testing, a huge % of that population was elderly immunocompromised, the January numbers don't align with the February/March numbers or with any other nation, and the #'s weren't reflected in serious illness or ICU.

And then calling it "Orwellian" to distinguish between minor symptoms and serious illness.

 

[Absolut]

didn't you get enough L's last year sorry had you on ignore.





no unlike you I have a firm grasp on all sides of the argument. that's the point. I am science and data driven and you are just slow.

I have been right all along and you ....

i posted this is the other thread.




remember:

“Had me on ignore” yet here you are responding “I am data driven” yet all you talk about is the Israel data which is flawed? Is that post of mine supposed to be some sort of gotcha? More than a year later it is in fact still the case I’m more likely to die driving to work on the highway than dying of covid

 

[Sinnerman]

UK case numbers continue to drop.



I don't know how many states don't report over the weekends, so take US numbers with a grain of salt

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Pakistan bans domestic air travel for unvaccinated people

 

[null]

post of the year !!

He can find every reason in the book to dismiss the best information we have if it goes against his current agenda, then pushes barely supported bullshyt when it confirms whatever he's currently on.

yeah OP provided a bunch of sources and I dismissed them all. i edited them out of OP's posts so you they can no longer be found.

That "16%" number for Israel is almost completely meaningless. There wasn't any reasonable control at all, there wasn't any systematic testing, a huge % of that population was elderly immunocompromised, the January numbers don't align with the February/March numbers or with any other nation, and the #'s weren't reflected in serious illness or ICU. Yet he'll throw that shyt out there with no hesitation just because he wants to run with a narrative at the moment.

just showing that you don't understand the science. primary immune system. antibody role in preventing infection and preventing shedding (NOT sickness), secondary immune system, memory t-cells. do you understand what that 16% represents?

3rd time posting this table for today.

Spoiler: ...

medcram collected some data - uk, scotland, israel, canada

infection, hospitalisation

1st dose, 2nd dose

Spoiler: video

the discussion was about infection when double vaccinated. i.e. top row cells, rhs columns.

one quote from john campbell (where i said we need more data) one video from dr. sehult.

opposing that we have smileys from #coli-science.

And then calling it "Orwellian" to distinguish between minor symptoms and serious illness.

conflating "non serious disease with uninfected" when we know that even asymptomatic covid causes damage and can cause long covid is orwellian. it's part of the effort to downplay the less than sterling elements of vaccination. making no mention of what was generally accepted as medical fact before the vaccination drives is orwellian. it is being brushed under the rug for now but it will become a major topic for conversation later.

orwellian in that the slight of hand fools many. like you guys for example.

why can't you figure stuff like that out for yourself?

you are ensconced in that partisan society with BS spin on every corner so maybe you are blind to it.

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p.s south africa ain't peru

 

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“Had me on ignore” yet here you are responding “I am data driven” yet all you talk about is the Israel data which is flawed? Is that post of mine supposed to be some sort of gotcha? More than a year later it is in fact still the case I’m more likely to die driving to work on the highway than dying of covid

ok breh. you really told me. levels, levels ...

#faneto-gang

 

[Professor Emeritus]

p.s south africa ain't peru

This is a perfect example of how you get so wrapped up in your own head that you just start spewing nonsense. Work on your empathy, on your ability to care as much about what other people are saying as you obsess over your own thoughts, and you won't make basic-ass errors like this one.

....waiting to see if you are even capable of identifying your error as quickly as i did.....

post of the year !!

yeah OP provided a bunch of sources and I dismissed them all. i edited them out of OP's posts so you they can no longer be found.

just showing that you don't understand the science. primary immune system. antibody role in preventing infection and preventing shedding (NOT sickness), secondary immune system, memory t-cells.

I'm not mocking you for being neruro-atypical but shyt like this is why your contributions are often unreadable and useless. You throw out tangential word salads that only prove you are more engrossed in your own head than able to read or respond to what anyone else is saying.

conflating "non serious disease with uninfected" when we know that even asymptomatic covid causes damage and can cause long covid is orwellian. it's part of the effort to downplay the less than sterling elements of vaccination. making no mention of what was generally accepted as medical fact before the vaccination drives is orwellian. it is being brushed under the rug for now but it will become a major topic for conversation later.

orwellian in that the slight of hand fools many. like you guys for example.

why can't you figure stuff like that out for yourself?

you are ensconced in that partisan society with BS spin on every corner so maybe you are blind to it.

You can't even just flatly state your objections or propose a better way forward, you have to build ridiculous sensational narratives with inflammatory scarewords.

Let's say that on July 26, 2021, the blond doofus was disposed and Tenet became PM of the United Kingdom. What would you do over the next 12 months to ensure your desired outcomes?